I'm not sure that going 6-2 and even gets us back in the raceHave to go 8-2 minimum if they want to get back in the race.
I'm not sure that going 6-2 and even gets us back in the raceHave to go 8-2 minimum if they want to get back in the race.
Better than being relegated to the CentralI don’t like being in their company
Always after the deadlineFeels like one of those “season isn’t over…but it’s over” kind of series. An entire organizational meltdown from top to bottom.
We’re losers.
Sox would be in second place in the Central right now.Better than being relegated to the Central
But they'd be in the CentralSox would be in second place in the Central right now.
Glaringly lacking and little conversation. Bloom with his TB years feels like bullpen games are the way to go.Eventually, you need starters to win you a game. This team has been lacking starters for 2 months and nothing was done.
Thankfully they didn't make any significant moves that cost them anything of value. This "clubhouse" isn't good enough to have warranted burning assets.Earlier in the game O'Brien asked Youk and Wake if losses like yesterday linger for a team. I would like to hear from some MLB players about the effect of not making moves at the trade deadline on a team that was as hot as the Sox were in July. Devers literally told the press he felt the FO owed it to the team to make some significant moves. I wonder how it impacts the clubhouse to essentially get the opposite message from the FO.
I posted yesterday that if players throw in the towel when they are in the thick of a playoff race just because the FO didn’t get a #4 or 5 starter, then they are so mentally fragile that they weren’t going to survive the playoffs anyway.Earlier in the game O'Brien asked Youk and Wake if losses like yesterday linger for a team. I would like to hear from some MLB players about the effect of not making moves at the trade deadline on a team that was as hot as the Sox were in July. Devers literally told the press he felt the FO owed it to the team to make some significant moves. I wonder how it impacts the clubhouse to essentially get the opposite message from the FO.
Oh stop. They’ve lost a few games. Zero chance they’ve “quit”. Come on.The team has quit. Shut Sale, Houck, and Whitlock down and hope we lose enough to get a top 10 pick.
It’s called they did not have enough good baseball players to begin with, then most of their pitchers got hurt.Our Boston Red Sox have now been swept 6 times this season at Fenway. There is something wrong with this team.
True, maybe they will go on another winning streak. They did have a 7 game win streak against the Jays.They have had horrendous stretches like this all season and have always bounced back.
I was never a professional athlete. But I was a salaried professional and I can say that my management set the tone for my department. I was a salaried exempt (from being paid overtime) employee. I had some really good supervisors who would look out for us, checked on how we were doing, had our backs and ran interference for us when necessary. We’d go the extra mile for those guys and in some cases run through a wall for them. I also had a couple of really shitty supervisors. Those guys really didn’t know, or care, what we were up against and only cared about making themselves look good. As far as we were concerned those guys could go screw themselves. We’d still do our jobs, but only enough not to get noticed for not doing them. No way we’d answer our phones on nights or weekends, and if we somehow had to stay late one night you could bet your ass that we’d get the time back by coming in late or leaving early the next few days. And we weren’t being paid hundreds of thousands, or millions, of dollars and needed our jobs. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same way in a major league clubhouse. Sure the players will show up and play, but will they be taking the extra BP, taking pregame drill’s seriously or will they just be hanging out bs’ing?Earlier in the game O'Brien asked Youk and Wake if losses like yesterday linger for a team. I would like to hear from some MLB players about the effect of not making moves at the trade deadline on a team that was as hot as the Sox were in July. Devers literally told the press he felt the FO owed it to the team to make some significant moves. I wonder how it impacts the clubhouse to essentially get the opposite message from the FO.
I was never a professional athlete. But I was a salaried professional and I can say that my management set the tone for my department. I was a salaried exempt (from being paid overtime) employee. I had some really good supervisors who would look out for us, checked on how we were doing, had our backs and ran interference for us when necessary. We’d go the extra mile for those guys and in some cases run through a wall for them. I also had a couple of really shitty supervisors. Those guys really didn’t know, or care, what we were up against and only cared about making themselves look good. As far as we were concerned those guys could go screw themselves. We’d still do our jobs, but only enough not to get noticed for not doing them. No way we’d answer our phones on nights or weekends, and if we somehow had to stay late one night you could bet your ass that we’d get the time back by comping in late or leaving early the next few days. And we weren’t being paid hundreds of thousands, or millions, of dollars and needed our jobs. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same way in a major league clubhouse. Sure the players will show up and play, but will they be taking the extra BP, taking pregame drill’s seriously or will they just be hanging out bs’ing?
Snow Tiger touches on what I have to imagine eventually weighs down on these players...they are still human. I would also venture to guess many of us don't have jobs with 40,000 spectators (some drunken) screaming at us or the world of social media or message boards dissecting our every move at work all year long.The Red Sox have 51 games left in the season. Almost 1/3 of the season still to go. The players are going to try to win as many of them as they can because winning baseball games is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than losing them.
People here need to get a grip.
Also, their performance in even meaningless games impacts their future earning potential. “Going through the motions” would literally be taking money out of their pockets. I think that the more likely reason why a lot of them look so bad is because they’re not very good MLB players to begin with. And the losing started a week before the trade deadline.Yes but they feel even crappier after going out and losing.
I feel like Mary Ann Vecchio kneeling over the corpse of a Red Sox season shot down abrubtly, in horrifying fashion.I feel like this is what happened last year after the trade deadline
100 percent agree. They always seem dead ball because nothing happened at the trade deadline.I feel like this is what happened last year after the trade deadline
Of course if Raffy hadn't been playing like dogshit for giant swaths of the season, the decision to buy would probably have been a lot easier.Devers literally told the press he felt the FO owed it to the team to make some significant moves. I wonder how it impacts the clubhouse to essentially get the opposite message from the FO.
This is such a tired take. They are human beings. All human beings are impacted by the the actions of the people around them, frequently in ways we don't understand. And if your boss told you that your team wasn't that good (i.e., that you were "underdogs") you'd be impacted, too.I posted yesterday that if players throw in the towel when they are in the thick of a playoff race just because the FO didn’t get a #4 or 5 starter, then they are so mentally fragile that they weren’t going to survive the playoffs anyway.
These guys are professionals who should be mentally tough enough to give 100% regardless of what the FO does.
Sure I might not “like it”, but I wouldn’t be dogging it out there if that happened.This is such a tired take. They are human beings. All human beings are impacted by the the actions of the people around them, frequently in ways we don't understand. And if your boss told you that your team wasn't that good (i.e., that you were "underdogs") you'd be impacted, too.
3-3 is "great"?The Yankees have played great since the trade deadline and they didn’t do anything either. Huh…. Interesting
10000000 percent agree. It doesn’t feel even remotely like a theory that some folks want to believe works despite the numerous counter examples or the complete lack of definitive proof.100 percent agree. They always seem dead ball because nothing happened at the trade deadline.