April 21, 2024: Beat the Heat
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Jrue Pushed him, that would be why he screwed up his feet and couldn't jump. So yeah I don't think that was intentional so much as he got screwed up by the contact and lost his footwork.
Jrue Pushed him, that would be why he screwed up his feet and couldn't jump. So yeah I don't think that was intentional so much as he got screwed up by the contact and lost his footwork.
20 point wire to wire win, with what felt like half assed defense for several stretches and below average games from their two best players. So good, and also so much room for improvement.
This. The Heat, specifically Wright, went unconscious for a couple minutes. Tatum also only 1 for 8 from 3
Unconscious because they turned the defensive switch off. That’s fixable.
I personally think he was just looking at the ball and not paying much attention to what was in front off him. You can blame him for that. Pretty dum and dangerous way to play. Again, just my opinion. It looked real bad.
A lot of that was defense, they also got 3 or 4 uncontested layups in that stretch and had Al screaming at his teammates.
Celtics stopped tryuing hard on D, dicked around on O and let the lead slip, which is bad.... but they also never let it get under 13, so hard to say if they would have done the same only up 20 or 15.
The real test will be in the coming games. Will they show the killer instinct?
Ok so why arent there more punches thrown in the NBA? That kind of collision is fairly common.
I mean the body control comments are laughable - these are massive human beings playing hard in a confined space. They are going to hit each other and bad stuff can result, even if that isn't the intent.
As I posted upthread, Miami plays over the edge because it helps winning at the margin. But the Bam screen and this are just hard plays. Not teams trying to deliberately injure players imo. I won't convince the people who are calling for a league investigation and you aren't going to convince me. I watch this stuff happening in bum ass games at the end of January. Its going to happen now for sure.
Here’s the better angle for Jrue shoving him.
View: https://twitter.com/celticsriley/status/1782127600338423813?s=46&t=11SXTvIYT-tl8b6e7iEUVQ
View: https://twitter.com/celticsriley/status/1782127600338423813?s=46&t=11SXTvIYT-tl8b6e7iEUVQ
Watching the replay you see Jrue push him and put Martin off balance.. as others have said. It was much worse looking from under the basket.
I was a few minutes behind live and lucky for you guys because I would have been repeatedly going after Doris. Disturbing that she is the best ESPN can put on the air.
The Bam screen simply isn't a 'hard play' there's a difference between being straight up on a screen and not. If you're set the defender knows where you are to get around you.. and it's a pretty slim amount of space. If the screener shifts there hip and shoulder that space isn't there anymore, it's an illegal screen and you get crushed because the space isn't there. Which is why it's not a legal play.
Edit: also the reason there aren't punches in the NBA playoffs is because of suspensions.. there aren't risks of suspensions on the playground
He got away with it. The rule only matters if its enforced and if I am coaching a team they are playing to what is enforced. Maybe I am a bad person but I want to win these games - not be on the side of what is right.
Jrue himself must not have seen it that way. Grande asked him point blank whether the Tatum play was a big deal or nothing, and Jrue said it's always a big deal when Tatum gets undercut.
As long as they use this to want to focus harder to kick their ass on the court and they don't try tit for tat with personal vendettas against Heat players (in the style of Pedro Martinez 'Who is Caleb Martin?')
As long as they use this to want to focus harder to kick their ass on the court and they don't try tit for tat with personal vendettas against Heat players (in the style of Pedro Martinez 'Who is Caleb Martin?')
Well then stop saying it's 'just a hard play' or whatever.. we can just agree that it was an illegal screen.. I'll say it's dirty and you won't because he got away with it I guess?
I also want to see the C's win these games, but I'd also like to see the Heat get called on their horseshit. Justifying it as a strategy because it doesn't get called is part of what's wrong with it... it relies on getting away with it and having fans/the league/refs justify it.
edit: I'm also usually in lockstep with you on everything..just not on this.
That is not a reckless play in the slightest. Shit happens sometimes when big dudes are going for rebounds
CJM should load up the tape player with the 1985 Memorial Day tape when the Celts destroyed Rileys
team in G1 of the 1985 Finals. Then show them the G2 tape.
team in G1 of the 1985 Finals. Then show them the G2 tape.
I see it as a hard play and I dont think Miami actually did anything way over the line in this game. I want the C's to set the same sort of screens as Bam did - do it until its called.
The injury risk was the refs letting the Heat get back into the game and the Heat took it too far before the officials realized what they did.
Ok... an eye for an eye and the whole world is blind.
I guess I don't see Boston getting away with this kind of thing... Horford gets called on moving screens all the time... Bam seems to be immune. I just want the C's to get out of this uninjured... and with screens like that it's less likely.
Sorry not the point.
Series are seldom won in G1 blowouts.
I dont care who the fuck you're playing.
Solid win
We can all make the mistake of over-indexing on how much a certain stretch is our guys playing badly instead of the other team playing well. The NBA is full of the best basketball players in the world, including the bench guys we all dump on. Including the Heat role players. Deon Wright comes off the bench at goes 5-5 from three in the second half? That stuff is going to happen over the course of forty eight minutes.
The game isn't decided by which team wins the four minute stretch in which Boston's opponents play their best.
Tatum's getting lazy with the ball in the 4th was frustrating, and brought up ghosts of years past. But the guy was also the best player on the court for much of the game, and putting up a triple-double on the Heat is no easy feat. I believe that's only the 5th time anyone has done it this season. (Previously: Sabonis twice, Luka once, Dejounte Murray once)
Big picture: our defense kept the Heat from getting shots at the rim and from the corners. Because of where we were bringing more pressure Miami took a ton of the shots they're worst at: above-the-break threes and contested mid-range twos. The Heat took >30 two-point shots from outside the circle, and hit only ~45% on them. You count on that for your offense, all while turning the ball over and getting hammered on the glass, you gotta hope the other team is really, really bad on offense. As it happens, we are not.
Both teams ended the game with 88 possessions. Miami turned that into 94 points. We turned it into 114.
Good luck to the Miami coaching staff coming up with something different for game two. This feels like a series that's heading for a sweep
We can all make the mistake of over-indexing on how much a certain stretch is our guys playing badly instead of the other team playing well. The NBA is full of the best basketball players in the world, including the bench guys we all dump on. Including the Heat role players. Deon Wright comes off the bench at goes 5-5 from three in the second half? That stuff is going to happen over the course of forty eight minutes.
The game isn't decided by which team wins the four minute stretch in which Boston's opponents play their best.
Tatum's getting lazy with the ball in the 4th was frustrating, and brought up ghosts of years past. But the guy was also the best player on the court for much of the game, and putting up a triple-double on the Heat is no easy feat. I believe that's only the 5th time anyone has done it this season. (Previously: Sabonis twice, Luka once, Dejounte Murray once)
Big picture: our defense kept the Heat from getting shots at the rim and from the corners. Because of where we were bringing more pressure Miami took a ton of the shots they're worst at: above-the-break threes and contested mid-range twos. The Heat took >30 two-point shots from outside the circle, and hit only ~45% on them. You count on that for your offense, all while turning the ball over and getting hammered on the glass, you gotta hope the other team is really, really bad on offense. As it happens, we are not.
Both teams ended the game with 88 possessions. Miami turned that into 94 points. We turned it into 114.
Good luck to the Miami coaching staff coming up with something different for game two. This feels like a series that's heading for a sweep
The Heat scored 35 points in the 4th and did not hit 95. Not sure where their points come from in the series.
Reach 105 in each game and move on.
Reach 105 in each game and move on.
You can argue that Tatum didn't shoot well from three.. but 23, 10 and 10 is a pretty solid game by anyone's metric. I do think there's room for improvement.. especially JB's d on Jaquez and whoever is going to be guarding Wright. But I don't really think there's too much to be taken away from the fourth.. the game was over..there's a reason you build a 30+ point lead. Probably could've sat a few of the starters and put in two bench players just to change the pace. Or not sit White for as long.
Also need to figure out what was going on with KP and Al on defense.. some definite missed assignments led to some very easy, wide open layups.
It's pretty obvious that if Bam and Herro are shut down that the Heat aren't going to win. Even if Wright and Jaquez go off it's not going to be enough. I guess we'll see if Caleb Martin shows up. If the C's play their defense right though.. the Heat don't have the scoring. And if the Celts shoot better than they did today..it won't matter.
Last season, the Celtics lost G1, albeit not a blowout. Today's result is much better, no matter what your point was.
I'm sure the coaches will be working on some things during the week, knowing that Miami will make adjustments in G2.
Yeah, he's not going to be able to do much in the half court against Holiday and White. Miami's only prayer is scoring a ton in transition and getting super hot from three. If the Celtics take care of the ball and don't let Miami get out in the fastbreak they're fucked. They have no half court offense with Bam and Herro as the only guys who can somewhat create.
Moral of the story: they're fucked.
Scal thinks the Martin play was intentional
https://x.com/nbcsceltics/status/1782134562694262802?s=46&t=Czjt40Px7cadfiCYc3CDtQ
https://x.com/nbcsceltics/status/1782134562694262802?s=46&t=Czjt40Px7cadfiCYc3CDtQ
I think this is right. Miami is great at running actions to get him free shots. And he got a few. But I am confident that his "free shots to actions run for him" ratio was way down. There were a bunch of defensive sequences where he could not get open or not get the ball....sometimes both.
Celtics arent going to pitch a shutout. But it seems really unlikely that any of Herro, Love, etc are going to get the 25-30 pts they're gonna need from at least one of them in every game.
Because Tatum or Brown don’t want to get suspended and derail a series that the C’s should otherwise win? Like Robinson mixing it up with Jaylen during the regular season, this tactic is the kind of thing a less talented player or team tries to do to shift the dynamic in a game or season.
