But hey, let's get into a boring argument about which conference was perceived as weaker instead. Good contribution.
Bowl Gamethread - Screw it, all the bowls.
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No, the committee made it clear that a team that goes undefeated against a weak in conference schedule will get in, even if it had negative style points (losing to seven different opponents by 7 or more at some point in the game). And the committee made it clear that a big name state school like Ohio will get in.FL4WL3SS said:
TCU had the 3rd, maybe even second depending on how much you count that 14-13 Arky game, best resume. Not the 5th,
FSU got in because they were undefeated, not because of their impressive OOC schedule, which it was, compared to most schools.
Let's make this a game thread again. There are four games today. Need to gorge on CFB for a few more days.
Houston and Pitt playing in a rainy Armed Forces Bowl. Not much action yet.
Houston and Pitt playing in a rainy Armed Forces Bowl. Not much action yet.
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
People are saying "undefeated" like it's a dirty word. Of course they got in b/c they were undefeated. In any year, the only team from any power conference that goes undefeated will always make the playoffs. It was earned.
Exactlly, which is why they "shouldn't" schedule ND or Okie State. They almost lost both games and would not have made the playoff if they had (lost one of them).johnmd20 said:
FSU was a highly improbable 7-0 in one-score games. Had they lost even one of those games, their weak SOS would have left them out of the top 4.Dan to Theo to Ben said:
An elite team is more likely to finish with one loss against a slate that includes a couple tough non-conference opponents than they are to run the table in a P5 conference, even with weak non-conference opponents.
Of course, FSU tried to adopt that strategy, but ND and OKST both had off years.
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
What? Florida State was the poster for why you should. Florida St had Notre Dame, Florida, and Oklahoma St on their schedule. Without these games and the perceived weakness of the ACC they might have been dogfighting to get in the playoffs perfect record be damned.
At the end of the day for better or worse the SEC champion and PAC12 champion will be in the playoffs. Hell being number 2 in SEC could beat out being champion Big 12, Big 10, or ACC.
SEC and Big 12 has looked bad in the bowls and the ACC, PAC12, and Big 10 have looked great. At the end of the road it looks like the PAC12 was the best conference this year.
The idea that the bowl games show which league is best/worst is a bit of a stretch unless a league runs the table in the bowls or loses all their games. It's certainly good for morale and recruiting and all that, but there's a marginal difference between 6-2 and 3-5 bowl records. The sample size is tiny. The bowls make up about 7-8% of a team's season, 20-25% of the non-conf schedule, and of course all the crappy teams in a league don't play. Plus it's not always a one vs one, two vs two matchup. TCU was probably the best team in their league and they played the 3rd best team in the SEC. What does 10-3 MIzzou prove by beating 8-4 Minnesota? It shows which of the two teams were better, at least on that day, and maybe overall. But I prefer looking at the entire non-conference records, just to amp the sample size a bit.
Rarely do you see the double curve on a FG. It was crazy that he made that kick.
Here's the kick
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=400610213&vid=12111909
Here's the kick
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=400610213&vid=12111909
And Houston scores two TDs in the last two minutes after recovering two onside kicks.
And makes the two-point conversion to take the lead 35-34 with a minute left. That was fun.
And makes the two-point conversion to take the lead 35-34 with a minute left. That was fun.
Tennessee has some serious young talent on the field. They're going to be very good in a year or two.
Tennessee will be very good next season, bringing back a lot of starters. They will compete for the SEC East title for the first time in a long time.
UCLA played a tough schedule, the other five ranked teams in the Pac-12 (ASU, Arizona, Oregon, USC, Utah), plus 8-5 Stanford and 8-5 Washington, plus co-AAC champ Memphis, and Texas. Worst teams on the sched were Virginia and Colorado, still big conference teams. This is one of those things that makes a nine-game conference schedule tough, it's really hard to miss a good team in your conference. UCLA also hasn't played an FCS team (or its historical equivalent) since the 50s.
Long drive for a TD and 2 pt conversion for KState, followed by a UCLA turnover. This one isn't over yet.
If we are going to pretend to care about player safety, why not blow the play dead when there is a flag on the defense on a play where the offense turns it over?
Lockett has been a pleasure to watch at this level.
Perkins probably should have fell down inside the 5 on his long run to milk more clock considering K-State only had 1 TO.
Perkins probably should have fell down inside the 5 on his long run to milk more clock considering K-State only had 1 TO.
Holy shit--a UCLA interception is nullified by another stupid personal foul penalty. And then KState scores. If they get the onside kick, they're winning this game.
Um, super catch by OkST's Washington.
Shaq Thompson can't hit a baseball but he is a really intriguing guy at LB.
Shaq Thompson can't hit a baseball but he is a really intriguing guy at LB.
Freshman to freshman.
Washington's offense has looked really bad so far and now they're down 14-0
Washington's offense has looked really bad so far and now they're down 14-0
Someone help me out here, why is Driskel playing for Florida? I thought Harris was the new starter and Driskel had even graduated. Why not give Harris those reps.