Apparently #26 is PJ Williams and, based on my in-depth researching of 45 seconds, has a solid draft stock.
Do not draft.
Do not draft.
wibi said:Co-worker of mine is an FSU grad and was talking shit about Oregon's chances in the past couple of weeks. He hasnt responded to a single text I've sent today
I can think of a situation where the 9th best team is pretty much as good as the 8th. One is allowed in, and one is snubbed.DannyHeep said:
Sure, but top 8 seems to be the sweet spot for teams that SHOULD be in the national championship conversation. I can't think of a season where the 9th best team deserves to have a shot. Can you?
Exactly. Obviously in an 8 team system the 9th team will bitch and moan but no one will really take them seriously. Like for instance this year no one would shed a tear for Ole Miss not making the playoff as the #9 team.DannyHeep said:
Sure, but top 8 seems to be the sweet spot for teams that SHOULD be in the national championship conversation. I can't think of a season where the 9th best team deserves to have a shot. Can you?
To be fair, the problem is with the system. As long as off-field qualifying factors (strength of schedule, style points, national rankings) matter more than won-loss record and performance within one's conference, the outcome with have a hint of joke to it. The obvious (to me) way to fix this, painting with a broad brush, is an 8-team playoff that has automatic bids for conference winners, with something else to complete the field. The emphasis should be on competition determining who gets to the playoff.Spacemans Bong said:With the way the committee operates, isn't Florida State getting blown out while Texas Christian moidered Ole Miss kind of a prima facie case that they screwed up? From what I understand, the way they selected teams was very of the moment.
DannyHeep said:
Sure, but top 8 seems to be the sweet spot for teams that SHOULD be in the national championship conversation. I can't think of a season where the 9th best team deserves to have a shot. Can you?
Greg29fan said:
you might want to check the Big 12's bowl record before you start talking about joke conferences
Oregon has 640 yards. 640! In what world is that remotely competitive?Deathofthebambino said:Heep, it's not worth it. It's just not.
I can't stand FSU, but I really wished that this wasn't the result, so we didn't have to hear this nonsense. It's a 5 point game at halftime, and FSU would have been winning if not for a reversal (a correct reversal) on a TD by Winston at the goal line. They get the ball to start the half and are moving it, and the Freshman coughs it up. They then give up a td in about 2 plays, and respond with one of their own. Then the freshman coughs up another one. They give up a td, drive the field again and then Winston coughs one up trying to make a play on fourth down. They give up a td, and then the interception happens on a dropped pass (one of about 10 by my count) and they give up another td.
Folks who don't understand how football works will see the score board and think one team was overmatched, but that's not remotely true. The FSU offense could have easily put up 40+ on this Oregon defense and kept this game close. Those same people will also blame Winston for this loss, when he basically had nothing to do with it. If his teammates aren't puking the ball up all over the field, and if his defense (and in particular one corner back wearing #26) didn't just lay down every single time they were called upon to make a play or a stop, he could have very well won this game by himself.
Oh well, instead we'll hear about how folks said they knew FSU sucked and didn't deserve to be here, and whatever other shit they want to say. It's not worth arguing about.
This is a weak response. The inability to entirely fix it is no justification not to mitigate it, and mitigating it wouldn't be brain surgery.staz said:And then 16. And then 32...
Can't please all of the people all of the time.
SoxFanInPdx said:
And I'm sure he'll text you back when/if the Seahawks get bounced from the playoffs.
SoxFanInPdx said:Man, even Oregon's ball boy looks annoying.
I can't think of a season where a team below about 6 deserved a shot.DannyHeep said:
Sure, but top 8 seems to be the sweet spot for teams that SHOULD be in the national championship conversation. I can't think of a season where the 9th best team deserves to have a shot. Can you?
Kremlin Watcher said:And a trophy for a semi-final game? Give me a freaking break. Participation trophies and orange slices for everyone!
It's the Rose Bowl, they aren't going to stop giving trophies for the Rose Bowl just because it's now a semifinal.Kremlin Watcher said:And a trophy for a semi-final game? Give me a freaking break. Participation trophies and orange slices for everyone!
McBride11 said:Ok, let's kick the next game so maybe it'll end by midnight.
Norm Siebern said:70% of the FSU team heads straight to the locker room rather than show sportsmanship. Golly, what a fucking surprise.
staz said:I can think of a situation where the 9th best team is pretty much as good as the 8th. One is allowed in, and one is snubbed.
johnmd20 said:So it's operation CRUSH ALABAMA right now. Let's go The Ohio State. Get it done. Do me proud.
tims4wins said:Oregon has 640 yards. 640! In what world is that remotely competitive?
johnmd20 said:
0% chance. 1am. Ouch.
So FSU is good because they cough up "soft as shit" fumbles and drop passes? Uh ok?Deathofthebambino said:
And Florida State had 530, despite committing 5 fucking turnovers. Up until the Freshman coughed it up on 2 out of 3 possessions, this game could have gone either way, and I'm sorry if you don't understand that. Sometimes, bounces just go the wrong way. There is no excuse for FSU laying down after they fell behind by about 25 or so, and their defense was a sieve, but their offense was playing toe to toe with Oregon's until they started fumbling it away. They literally just had to hang onto the ball and this game would have been completely different. It's not like they were even fantastic plays by the defense or blind side strip sacks. They were soft as shit fumbles and a dropped pass that ended up in the hands of the defender.
McBride11 said:
Nope, #5 destroyed #9. I think 6 seems to be the sweet spot, but the 8 with the Big 5 and 3 at large seems less controversial. But I don't want to deprive these student athletes of valuable studying time.
tims4wins said:So FSU is good because they cough up "soft as shit" fumbles and drop passes? Uh ok?
I don't know if he started it, but he sure as shit made it popular.Al Zarilla said:Defer, defer, defer. Did our BB start this?
54thMA said:
Since the previous game was about 4.5 hours long, 1:30 probably.
Crap.
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but FSU was ranked 109th this year in turnovers, and 80-somthing in turnover differential. It's part of who they were as a team. To say it was competitive except for the turnovers--as if they shouldn't have been expected, particularly in a game against a team as strong as Oregon--is kind of a weird argument.Deathofthebambino said:Heep, it's not worth it. It's just not.
I can't stand FSU, but I really wished that this wasn't the result, so we didn't have to hear this nonsense. It's a 5 point game at halftime, and FSU would have been winning if not for a reversal (a correct reversal) on a TD by Winston at the goal line. They get the ball to start the half and are moving it, and the Freshman coughs it up. They then give up a td in about 2 plays, and respond with one of their own. Then the freshman coughs up another one. They give up a td, drive the field again and then Winston coughs one up trying to make a play on fourth down. They give up a td, and then the interception happens on a dropped pass (one of about 10 by my count) and they give up another td.
Folks who don't understand how football works will see the score board and think one team was overmatched, but that's not remotely true. The FSU offense could have easily put up 40+ on this Oregon defense and kept this game close. Those same people will also blame Winston for this loss, when he basically had nothing to do with it. If his teammates aren't puking the ball up all over the field, and if his defense (and in particular one corner back wearing #26) didn't just lay down every single time they were called upon to make a play or a stop, he could have very well won this game by himself.
Oh well, instead we'll hear about how folks said they knew FSU sucked and didn't deserve to be here, and whatever other shit they want to say. It's not worth arguing about.
tims4wins said:So FSU is good because they cough up "soft as shit" fumbles and drop passes? Uh ok?
I like to think that I understand football, and watched a complete beat down. You lost me right up front. FSU would have been winning, if they did not reverse a TD that did not happen.....Uhm....what does that even mean?Deathofthebambino said:Heep, it's not worth it. It's just not.
I can't stand FSU, but I really wished that this wasn't the result, so we didn't have to hear this nonsense. It's a 5 point game at halftime, and FSU would have been winning if not for a reversal (a correct reversal) on a TD by Winston at the goal line. They get the ball to start the half and are moving it, and the Freshman coughs it up. They then give up a td in about 2 plays, and respond with one of their own. Then the freshman coughs up another one. They give up a td, drive the field again and then Winston coughs one up trying to make a play on fourth down. They give up a td, and then the interception happens on a dropped pass (one of about 10 by my count) and they give up another td.
Folks who don't understand how football works will see the score board and think one team was overmatched, but that's not remotely true. The FSU offense could have easily put up 40+ on this Oregon defense and kept this game close. Those same people will also blame Winston for this loss, when he basically had nothing to do with it. If his teammates aren't puking the ball up all over the field, and if his defense (and in particular one corner back wearing #26) didn't just lay down every single time they were called upon to make a play or a stop, he could have very well won this game by himself.
Oh well, instead we'll hear about how folks said they knew FSU sucked and didn't deserve to be here, and whatever other shit they want to say. It's not worth arguing about.
Well it's New Year's Day and I've been drinking for how many hours so I'm gonna say yes.johnmd20 said:
You're being obtuse. Are you doing it on purpose?
shawnrbu said:The ball is dead in college in the endzone.