Everybody knew why the play was overturned, right?
Q. No, can you explain that, please.
Torre: Tejada showed that he didn't touch the bag, and Utley never touched second base. The fact that he was called out meant he didn't -- he's not required to touch second base once he's called out. So when the play was overturned, he gets awarded second base on that.
Q. Correct me if I'm wrong, if they had tagged Utley just before he went off the field, would that have changed that situation?
Randy Marsh: Yeah, he would have been out.
Torre: In other words, if whoever happened to have the ball had tagged him going by the dugout or something, then he would have been out.
Q. Really? And they couldn't challenge?
Torre: Yeah, because that was before.
Q. And they could challenge because it wasn't a neighborhood play?
Torre: It wasn't a neighborhood play. That's judged on the field. Once it goes to replay, that's not a neighborhood play.
Q. If he went off the field because he was told he was out and then they tagged him because he had been told he was out?
Torre: No, I mean, if the player had had the ball and happened to tag him.
Q. Before he was told?
Torre: Well, he heard he was out, and he was leaving the field. But I'm saying before he left the field, right?
Marsh: Right, he was called out.
Torre: Because the act of tagging somebody, the fact that he didn't touch the bag and now you're tagging him, OK? But once he's off the field and we go to replay, everything stops, so he's awarded second base because he wasn't tagged. But he left the field based on the fact that the umpire called him out.
Q. So he never needed to touch the base?
Torre: He never needed to touch the base because the umpire called him out. You're correcting umpire's mistake. In that situation, by going to replay, and they see the runner never touched the base, but the umpire called him out, by replay rules we can correct the situation and put the runner on the bag.