Celtics Off-Season Thread
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It will be interesting to see if the picks are what interests Sacramento most. They've had picks and not done much with them, but with the new regime it may be what they are looking for. If not, and they were willing to even move Boogie, you'd think they'd want a package that included a young big of some sort (Magic?) that the Celts just don't have to offer.
I think Cousins is the dream for Ainge, but I think it's a long-shot that they are a fit.
I think Cousins is the dream for Ainge, but I think it's a long-shot that they are a fit.
One thing I don't understand is why the way things are now more stars don't move from the West to the East, just because it's going to be easier for them to make the playoffs. If I were Kevin Love, that would have been an impediment for me from going to the Lakers. OTOH, if I am Lamarkus Aldridge, I would be thinking the Eastern Conference, may be Cleveland if Love leaves.
LMA and LeBron probably can't play together much better than Love and LeBron, though.
The best spot I can think of for LMA in the East would be Chicago as a super-Gasol, but I think their cap situation makes that difficult-to-impossible. But LMA-Butler-Rose-Noah is a heck of a Big Three-Point-Five if Butler keeps ascending.
The best spot I can think of for LMA in the East would be Chicago as a super-Gasol, but I think their cap situation makes that difficult-to-impossible. But LMA-Butler-Rose-Noah is a heck of a Big Three-Point-Five if Butler keeps ascending.
Family was being used the same way dude or bro would be. If they got Cousins after signing a guy like Green, and bring back IT, then Danny is a miracle worker, but Cousins is quickly turning into the Larry Fitzgerald of Celtic trade targets.Nick Kaufman said:
I don't see how Cousins is even a possibility for them at this point. I would love to see it happen, and maybe it would be possible if we had a 2007 Al Jefferson to deal, but we don't. Sully, Zeller, Young, draft picks that aren't a lock to be in the lottery... this is not the kind of stuff that can be dealt for a star. It would be great but it's a pipe dream.
Eddie Jurak said:
You left out probably the most valuable guy, Marcus Smart. He's not a "Jefferson in 2007" level piece, but I assume teams will be interested in him.
Obviously Smart seems to be part of the Celtics future, but I would think the Kings ask for him first (in addition to picks of course).
It is depressing to look at the Bulls and realize they have four guys better than anyone on the Celtics roster. I thought Cleveland's three was bad enough.
well, it should also give you some hope considering a few of their guys are late first round picks.
One of my top 2nd tier guy is quickly pricing himself out of the Celtics range. DeMarre Carroll goes for his 7th consecutive 20-point playoff game on Saturday. We would have had to overpay as it was which is the case with nearly all FA but he's making a ton of money these past two weeks.
Crowder looks like he could be that guy. All he needs is to develop a better 3pt shot.Eddie Jurak said:
I was scared for a minute that they were replacing Abby with a massive downgrade but it's a different job.
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radsoxfan said:
George Karl is an established, veteran coach and it is hard to imagine that he signed on for a complete rebuild with the Kings. Nevertheless, there have been reports that his relationship with DMC is a "work in progress." http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/kings-blog/article14842172.html.
If DMC and Karl don't see eye to eye, I think it is plausible that the organization could decide that it is time to move on from the moody DMC. DMC has shown that, when he is not in the right situation, he can be a net negative, despite his undeniable talent. In the event the Kings are open to moving him, I think the Celtics can put together a competitive trade offer by bringing in Denver (who is also rumored to be making big changes this off-season). Karl also strikes as the kind of coach who has "his guys," and he has obviously had some success with some of the Denver players in the past.
Something like:
Boston incoming: DMC + Evans/Hollins/Casspi (salary filler)
Denver incoming: Smart + Sullinger + Wallace + 2016 Dallas 1st round pick (protected 1-7 via Boston)
Sacramento incoming: Lawson + Faried + Brooklyn 2016 1st round pick (unprotected via Boston) + Boston 2015 1st round pick (#16 overall)
Smart, Sullinger and 3 1st round picks for Cousins? Seems like a lot, but might be worth it. If they still had meaningful cap space (and I assume they would), this might leave the Cs franchise in pretty good shape. You Turner haters might have to get used to him, however, as they'd need his size in the backcourt.
You are right. And for that reason, Boston might need to substitute in the other Brooklyn pick or otherwise add another pick. Keep in mind that the scenario I laid out above has Boston sending out Wallace to Denver, which does two things. First, it requires added value to go to Denver since Wallace is clearly a net negative with his salary (albeit for just one more year). Second, it frees up even more cap room, which could, for example, allow the Celtics to sign two cap max agents to play alongside DMC.BigSoxFan said:
Sports talk radio in Portland is agog with talk about a potential package that would send LaMarcus Aldridge and Wes Matthews to Boston for picks and nebulous other things. This strikes me as a ridiculous proposition, as LA and Wes are both unrestricted, and there's no reason to think Boston would be their desired landing spot.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25184174/lamarcus-aldridge-going-to-boston-is-a-rumor-now
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25184174/lamarcus-aldridge-going-to-boston-is-a-rumor-now
Teams rumored to be hot after Carroll include the Celtics (again), Lakers, and Pistons. With us likely out of the bidding with the top tier players how much does Ainge value Carroll now? He loved him in the past only at the MLE we had but obviously the price tag today is much much higher. If Avery Bradley is considered a market value deal at $8m (which I feel is FMV for him) does Carroll reach the 4/$50m range? He's a huge upgrade over Evan Turner but is more of a true role player who feeds off better players and not as his teams 1/2 option. What does Danny go up to.....4/$40?, 4/$50m? Assuming Crowder gets a 4/$30-35m deal elsewhere i'd much prefer Carroll.HomeRunBaker said:
Add Carroll, move up for WCS (or select Oubre and Upshaw), and position/pray for the Nets and Mavericks to suck balls next year into the lottery. I'd be comfortable with this offseason.
Sully, Turner and Mr. Greg Oden are training buddies this summer. Isn't Oden the worst possible influence for Sully at this point? On the other hand, if Oden got seriously got his shit together and can stay healthy he might be an intriguing buy low candidate.
There's this from Rotoworld:
There's this from Rotoworld:
Then there is this: http://bustedcoverage.com/2015/04/28/greg-oden-making-bar-friends-at-2-a-m/
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