CFB 2023 Conference Championships: A thread enjoying five major conference championship games for the last time

DJnVa

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For anyone wondering, Liberty won the CUSA title game over NMSU, 49-35.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Why was that reviewable? I am glad they got it right but I thought a non scoring play was not reviewable.
 

SoxFanInPdx

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Overrated in what way? He has the best stats in the country, but no one thinks he's the best QB and lots of folks think he's 5th in the draft at QB.
I’m just not impressed with his processing and decision making while under pressure. He’s also had the benefit of not going to a hostile, away crowd his entire time at Oregon. He’s one that’s greatly benefited hitting the portal and getting out of the SEC.
 

luckiestman

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I’m just not impressed with his processing and decision making while under pressure. He’s also had the benefit of not going to a hostile, away crowd his entire time at Oregon. He’s one that’s greatly benefited hitting the portal and getting out of the SEC.
He played at Seattle?
 

scottyno

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Decline would have still stopped the clock right? Think I would have rather risked 2nd and 5 and save the time
 

DJnVa

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I don’t think either of these statements is correct. Will try to look up rule after game.
I found this:

6. the status of the ball (e.g. live/dead, touched/untouched), including when and/or where the ball or a player is out of bounds or in an end zone, which player has possession of the ball, whether a pass is forward or backward or whether a forward pass is complete/incomplete

and

11. any egregious error
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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I guess I don’t know what you mean by “non-scoring play is not reviewable”. All plays in college football are subject to automatic review.
TD on the field is always reviewable. Out of bounds by a ball carrier on the field is not reviewable.

But there is an exception for obvious errors that are potentially game dispositive. I guess that must have been the exception they invoked.

The rules I am looking at are 12-3-3-g and 12-7.

https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf#page116
 

scottyno

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They should definitely have declined. Not sure it would have mattered though. Run defense was pretty bad.
Yeah if they couldn't stop 3rd and 9 then they probably weren't going to stop 2nd and 5 and then the 3rd down, but still worth the gamble when the best case in accepting was being pinned deep with about 20 seconds left and no timeouts unless something weird happened
 

luckiestman

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TD on the field is always reviewable. Out of bounds by a ball carrier on the field is not reviewable.

But there is an exception for obvious errors that are potentially game dispositive. I guess that must have been the exception they invoked.

The rules I am looking at are 12-3-3-g and 12-7.

https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf#page116
Maybe I am the one misreading it, but it says this

12-3-3
g. Ball carrier in or out of bounds. If a ball carrier is ruled out of bounds, the play is not reviewable, except as in Rules 12-3-1-a

12-3-1-a

Reviewable plays involving a potential score include: a. A potential touchdown


Was that not a potential touchdown?

Also, check out 1:38 here. He doesn't mention what rule they invoke but it is a similar play being reviewed (but actually a touchback upon review)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t2VO8-UKY0&ab_channel=NCAAResources
 

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Maybe I am the one misreading it, but it says this

12-3-3
g. Ball carrier in or out of bounds. If a ball carrier is ruled out of bounds, the play is not reviewable, except as in Rules 12-3-1-a

12-3-1-a

Reviewable plays involving a potential score include: a. A potential touchdown


Was that not a potential touchdown?

Also, check out 1:38 here. He doesn't mention what rule they invoke but it is a similar play being reviewed (but actually a touchback upon review)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t2VO8-UKY0&ab_channel=NCAAResources
Yeah, I was just coming back to post that. I rewound and rewatched, and the booth ref said something like “that is one of the few times you can review a call, of out of bounds, because it was a touchdown.” I think that is also why the ref announced the overturn in a weird way — he said some nonsense about the ”ball in relation to the pylon” and that the runner crossed the goal line. Fowler even makes fun of it, but I think the reason he announced it that way is they did a little slight of hand to get it correct — oh, heavens no, we aren’t reviewing out call that he was out of bounds, we are just reviewing whether it was a TD!

So, to cut through it all, I think the simple answer to the question I asked in real time about why they could review an out of bounds call, is because an overturn would result in an immediate TD.

It’s just a silly academic point — they found a way to get it right, and that’s what matters.
 

luckiestman

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Yeah, I was just coming back to post that. I rewound and rewatched, and the booth ref said something like “that is one of the few times you can review a call, of out of bounds, because it was a touchdown.” I think that is also why the ref announced the overturn in a weird way — he said some nonsense about the ”ball in relation to the pylon” and that the runner crossed the goal line. Fowler even makes fun of it, but I think the reason he announced it that way is they did a little slight of hand to get it correct — oh, heavens no, we aren’t reviewing out call that he was out of bounds, we are just reviewing whether it was a TD!

So, to cut through it all, I think the simple answer to the question I asked in real time about why they could review an out of bounds call, is because an overturn would result in a TD.

It’s just a silly academic point — they found a way to get it right, and that’s what matters.
Last video has the exact scenario
 

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Oregon was a 9.5 point favorite, right?
Yup
The team that lost head to head earlier in the season was favored by 2 scores on a neutral field against an undefeated opponent.
For as much as Vegas seems to “just know” (I took the over at 65), on occasion, they have things wrong. Last night was one of those occasions and I’m very glad about it!
 

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Yeah, I was just coming back to post that. I rewound and rewatched, and the booth ref said something like “that is one of the few times you can review a call, of out of bounds, because it was a touchdown.” I think that is also why the ref announced the overturn in a weird way — he said some nonsense about the ”ball in relation to the pylon” and that the runner crossed the goal line. Fowler even makes fun of it, but I think the reason he announced it that way is they did a little slight of hand to get it correct — oh, heavens no, we aren’t reviewing out call that he was out of bounds, we are just reviewing whether it was a TD!

So, to cut through it all, I think the simple answer to the question I asked in real time about why they could review an out of bounds call, is because an overturn would result in an immediate TD.

It’s just a silly academic point — they found a way to get it right, and that’s what matters.
Replay has its own rule book. Here is the specific rule from page 30:

“If the officials rule the runner out of bounds replay can only look at the position of the ball at that point in relation to the line to gain or the goal line. The one exception is if the runner is ruled out but crosses the opponent’s goal line in the immediate continuing action after the ruling.”