CFB 2023 Week 2: Texas at Alabama

Ale Xander · Sep 5, 2023

4:00
All of BC nation is hoping Hafley is fired then.

6:00
Duke letdown game v. Lafayette (kidding, CJ Mccollum doesn't play football and that was Lehigh)

Ale Xander · Sep 5, 2023

Is there a line for LSU Grambling yet?

That has to be the 2nd best line (for LSU) to play for the weekend, after PHI EAGLES

tims4wins · Sep 5, 2023

Those are the old rankings right? When does the new poll come out? Duke is probably going to be top 25 after a 9 win season last week + beating Clemson

cshea · Sep 5, 2023

The polls will come out today.

Not sure Duke makes that big of a leap. They were 41st in the AP Preseason poll and 56 in the coache's poll. Only 3 AP ranked teams lost. There's a lot of volatility early on but that'd be a big jump.

luckiestman · Sep 5, 2023

cshea said:
The polls will come out today.

Not sure Duke makes that big of a leap. They were 41st in the AP Preseason poll and 56 in the coache's poll. Only 3 AP ranked teams lost. There's a lot of volatility early on but that'd be a big jump.

I dont see how you can blow out a “top 10” team in prime time after being ranked the previous year and not end up in the top 25. But I have no handle on the mechanics of college football polling so if they are not top 25 your post will help me understand that.

cshea · Sep 5, 2023

luckiestman said:
I dont see how you can blow out a “top 10” team in prime time after being ranked the previous year and not end up in the top 25. But I have no handle on the mechanics of college football polling so if they are not top 25 your post will help me understand that.

It's just hard to really get a handle on teams this early. Just as an example, Clemson played a real opponent and lost. Oklahoma played Arkansas State and won 73-0. I don't know how you can really compare them side by side and decide who is better after 1 game.

Specific to the Duke situation, it probably comes down to what voters think of Clemson. Do they think that Clemson is a legitimate top 10 team ore more in the 20-40 range, thus devaluing the win for Duke? FWIW, I looked at last year and Florida made the biggest week 1 leap from 38 to 12 after beating #7 Utah in their opener, so maybe I'm wrong.

Ale Xander · Sep 5, 2023

The 6-7 Florida Gators

tims4wins · Sep 5, 2023

Clemson 21 Duke 24 okey dokey

j-man · Sep 5, 2023

i live where arkansas st is i went to wal-mart today just about 12 miles away form their jonesboro camaps and i been in july and aug too No a-state stuff just razorbacks and it's the next town over plus they cant fill their 30k place unless a sec team plays there that program never shouild had moved up

luckiestman · Sep 6, 2023

I have a question, this may have been discussed, is Deion the best NFL player to have a win over a ranked opponent as head coach? There are not many NFL players better than he was so it’s a small pool. Did any coach college ball at a high level

Ale Xander · Sep 6, 2023

luckiestman said:
I have a question, this may have been discussed, is Deion the best NFL player to have a win over a ranked opponent as head coach? There are not many NFL players better than he was so it’s a small pool. Did any coach college ball at a high level

Did any (nfl halll of famers as players) head coach at all at college?

Berry only briefly coached WR at Arkansas

Ditka went immediately from player to NFL coaching (assistant first)

Can’t really think of others who coached at all

Lose Remerswaal · Sep 6, 2023

luckiestman said:
I have a question, this may have been discussed, is Deion the best NFL player to have a win over a ranked opponent as head coach? There are not many NFL players better than he was so it’s a small pool. Did any coach college ball at a high level

Jim Harbaugh was a pretty good NFL QB, but Prime Time is in the HoF and Harbaugh isn’t

Ale Xander · Sep 6, 2023

Really wish U Miami had a stadium in Coral Gables, to get more students into the crowd, but there's no barren land and not on the beach anyway (for pregame, GameDay eventually etc.)

AX watch schedule of the day
12-3:30 Wolfpack v. SBCC, checking in on score for Mass Cath
3:30-7:00 Aggy Canes and Corn Bowl
5:15-8:30 Heels Apps
7-10:30 Horns Bama
10:30-1AM Stanford Southern Cal

luckiestman · Sep 6, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
Here's the 100th Anniversary All Time Team:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_100th_Anniversary_All-Time_Team

A number of guys like Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Forrest Gregg, etc coached college but never beat a ranked team.

Jack Christiansen coached Stanford for five seasons and beat a number of ranked teams, including #9 USC in 1975.

I don't think he was better than Deion and he was not a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Christiansen

thanks

Ale Xander · Sep 6, 2023

Awesome Fossum said:
Here's the 100th Anniversary All Time Team:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_100th_Anniversary_All-Time_Team

A number of guys like Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Forrest Gregg, etc coached college but never beat a ranked team.

Jack Christiansen coached Stanford for five seasons and beat a number of ranked teams, including #9 USC in 1975.

I don't think he was better than Deion and he was not a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Christiansen

Didn’t know Baugh or Graham coached. Good info, thanks

Sille Skrub · Sep 6, 2023

luckiestman said:
I have a question, this may have been discussed, is Deion the best NFL player to have a win over a ranked opponent as head coach? There are not many NFL players better than he was so it’s a small pool. Did any coach college ball at a high level

Awesome question. Thanks!

Brand Name · Sep 7, 2023

luckiestman said:
I have a question, this may have been discussed, is Deion the best NFL player to have a win over a ranked opponent as head coach? There are not many NFL players better than he was so it’s a small pool. Did any coach college ball at a high level

This one's fun! Great ask, ditto Skrub's thoughts.

It's imperfect, but ProFootballRef's AV puts Sanders at 163 AV, or Approximate Value. That's tied for 37th all-time with Fouts, Moon, Otto, and Woodson. No other player at that AV or higher has any collegiate coaching (or NFL) wins. So by this metric, absolutely. By extension, according to AV, he's also the best to have any head coaching win, as well.

mauf · Sep 7, 2023

Forrest Gregg was an 8-time first team All-Pro and coached the Bengals to Super Bowl XVI. He’s the only guy in the conversation with Deion.

(Gregg’s college coaching career consisted of two seasons at SMU immediately following the NCAA-imposed “death penalty.”)

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 8, 2023

Brett Bielema is such a bad coach.

canderson · Sep 9, 2023

I hear there’s a game tonight.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Hearing there’s a flash flood alert for Raleigh.

I blame the SBCC fans bringing pestilence

SemperFidelisSox · Sep 9, 2023

A renewal of the great Michigan-UNLV football rivalry.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

SemperFidelisSox said:
A renewal of the great Michigan-UNLV football rivalry.

Webber/LJ would be a good TE/LB matchup

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

@luckiestman
Looking like Broadway Joe is the celebrity picker

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Corso is also back

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 9, 2023

aggy the pick over the Canes. Have to agree with that. aggy is good.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Wouldn’t be surprised if more Aggy fans in the stands than Canes

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 9, 2023

Corso with the winning pick!

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Hartman looks like a 35 year old

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Sam stuffed

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 9, 2023

Buffs D will be the decider in this one.

Just a bit outside · Sep 9, 2023

Kremlin Watcher said:
Buffs D will be the decider in this one.

D is selling out to stop the run. Making Sims pass is the plan.

SemperFidelisSox · Sep 9, 2023

#4 was gonna take Sanders head off.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

JFC what a throw by Sanders

SemperFidelisSox · Sep 9, 2023

Nebraska defense giving up 3rd and long, false start on 4th down, no containment of Sanders.

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 9, 2023

SemperFidelisSox said:
Nebraska defense giving up 3rd and long, false start on 4th down, no containment of Sanders.

Yet …

Just a bit outside · Sep 9, 2023

SemperFidelisSox said:
Nebraska defense giving up 3rd and long, false start on 4th down, no containment of Sanders.

That whole drive was a mess for both sides.

Rook05 · Sep 9, 2023

Nebraska’s offense isn’t terribly dynamic. Get a lead, and let Sims start putting it up for grabs.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Nc state SBCC temporarily suspended due to thunderstorms

PNc arena can be used as shelter

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

Hokies Boilers and Wake Commies also delayed

luckiestman · Sep 9, 2023

This Matt Rhule power running is a bad matchup for Prime’s guys

CFB_Rules · Sep 9, 2023

It’s really astounding what JMU has been able to do in the move up from FCS

canderson · Sep 9, 2023

TCU is a ahit football team that lost its horseshoe, news at 11

Kremlin Watcher · Sep 9, 2023

Huskers miss the FG. Opposite of last week for the Buffs so far.

Ale Xander · Sep 9, 2023

CFB_Rules said:
It’s really astounding what JMU has been able to do in the move up from FCS

Very good administration and infrastructure/facilities and fan engagement at that program at every sport.

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