CFB Week 14: Championship Week

steveluck7

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This is what u get when u worry too much about leaving time. Just keep your rhythm and score. Baylor wasn’t gonna drive down. OSU got too cute with it
 

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This is what u get when u worry too much about leaving time. Just keep your rhythm and score. Baylor wasn’t gonna drive down. OSU got too cute with it
Completely disagree. You bleed to clock as low as you can and figure out how to get in one if your four chances from the 2 yard line.
 

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A coach not making some absurd speech about deserving to be in the playoff was refreshing
 

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I actually agree -- this wasn't a 56-55 game; you need to keep getting yards and get the lead. But I don't think OSU misplayed that part really, they just couldn't punch it in.
 

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A coach not making some absurd speech about deserving to be in the playoff was refreshing
I’m in the minority, but if I’m LSU I would have waited and went with (maybe they did and were rebuffed) DA who is a better fit imho.
 

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It is. Is that what happened? If so, that's an automatic first down...
It’s not. The reason it’s not a foul is because the team would only be penalized if the refs screwed up, which isn’t fair to anyone.

Officials should just deny the request
 

Ed Hillel

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It’s not. The reason it’s not a foul is because the team would only be penalized if the refs screwed up, which isn’t fair to anyone.

Officials should just deny the request
Well I mean you could say the same thing about Chris Webber, but I know that it's a penalty in the NFL (Unsportsmanlike) to call a timeout if you don't have one, and I believe it's the same for college. It's not the ref's fault.

I'm glad it didn't end that way, though.
 

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Well I mean you could say the same thing about Chris Webber, but I know that it's a penalty in the NFL (Unsportsmanlike) to call a timeout if you don't have one, and I believe it's the same for college. It's not the ref's fault.
I promise it’s not the same for college. But here is the NFL rule verbatim:

If an attempt is made to call a timeout in such situations, the officials shall not grant it, and play will continue. A penalty shall be enforced only if the timeout is erroneously granted.”

So if the officials do their job, nobody is penalized. Only if the officials screw up is a team assessed a penalty.
 

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Completely disagree. You bleed to clock as low as you can and figure out how to get in one if your four chances from the 2 yard line.
I liken it to a team up by a couple of scores that’s been good on d all game deciding to go into a prevent defense to avoid the big play. Sometimes that just invites the opponent back into the game.
I’m big on keeping momentum and riding it while u have it. OSU had the momentum and got out of rhythm.
 

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That doesn't make any sense.
I promise it’s not the same for college. But here is the NFL rule verbatim:

If an attempt is made to call a timeout in such situations, the officials shall not grant it, and play will continue. A penalty shall be enforced only if the timeout is erroneously granted.”

So if the officials do their job, nobody is penalized. Only if the officials screw up is a team assessed a penalty.
Is that the old rule? I think they changed it in 2016 to an automatic delay. Though that wouldn't be a first down.
NFL calling a timeout with none left - Google Search

Unsportsmanlike is only if it's calling a non-existent timeout to freeze a kicker. Or, I think, if you call two in a row.
 

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That doesn't make any sense.

Is that the old rule? I think they changed it in 2016 to an automatic delay. Though that wouldn't be a first down.
NFL calling a timeout with none left - Google Search

Unsportsmanlike is only if it's calling a non-existent timeout to freeze a kicker. Or, I think, if you call two in a row.
Why trust google when the rule book is online…here’s the full version

Penalty: When a team is granted a second timeout during the same dead-ball period, or a timeout after exhausting its three timeouts during a half: Loss of five yards.

Note: If an attempt is made to call a timeout in such situations, the officials shall not grant it, and play will continue. A penalty shall be enforced only if the timeout is erroneously granted. If a timeout is inadvertently granted, it shall be charged to the team, and the penalty shall also be enforced.

Anyways. It makes no sense to only penalize a team when you (as an official) screw up. The college rule is better: Don’t screw up. And if you do, just eat it, and reset game conditions to what they were prior to you screwed up.
 
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