Changes to Fenway (eliminating 450 Bleacher Seats)

Ale Xander

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Yeah I really hate this. At least it won't be until '20-'21. Allowing this without a parking solution seems backward.

Wonder what happens with Symphony Hall?
 

Murby

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To me the no on-site parking is the crazy part. I would force them to put parking in, but that’s my own personal issue everywhere.

Taking away bleacher seats hurts fans that can’t pay through the nose for seats, so this seems silly. I don’t really get why don’t just eliminate Landsdowne as a street and move on.
 

axx

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Reading the proposal they aren't asking for a reduction in Fenway's capacity; I don't know if that would mean they would sell 300 more SRO tickets along with the 150 (more expensive I imagine) seats they are adding.

To be clear it's the upper bleachers and the triangle behind there.
 

Orel Miraculous

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Yeah I really hate this. At least it won't be until '20-'21. Allowing this without a parking solution seems backward.

Wonder what happens with Symphony Hall?
There is a parking solution: it's called building a theater in the middle of a transit-heavy urban core where driving is a luxury but not necessity. It's the same solution that allows Fenway Park to fill up with 35,000 people 81 times a year despite having zero parking spots.

As for what's going to happen to Symphony Hall. . . umm, absolutely nothing.
 

The Allented Mr Ripley

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GlucoDoc

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I wonder if anyone has done a study of how the structure will affect the wind patterns that go through the park. It could impact the number of homeruns, how fly balls behave, and other potential on-field issues.
 

savage362

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Will they be compensating for the removed bleacher seats with more standing room tickets? I could easily see another 100 or so standing room tickets being sold for that area.
 

The Allented Mr Ripley

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The overall capacity of the park won't change, so I assume some of the displaced seats will be sold as standing room. The new bleacher pavilion is supposed to seat 150 people around bartop tables, similar to the Sam Adams deck above RF, the balance may be added to SRO.

Edit: @axx covered it above.
 

Plympton91

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Urban planners seem like they won’t be happy until the population density of America’s cities rivals that of Mumbai.

Can we just stop please.
 

nvalvo

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Urban planners seem like they won’t be happy until the population density of America’s cities rivals that of Mumbai.

Can we just stop please.
Because freeways scale so tremendously? Have you noticed that Greater Boston's traffic situation has completely fallen apart over the past decade? What are you actually proposing?

The densest places in America have been getting *less* dense for decades. Manhattan's population density peaked around 1950, as did Chicago and Boston; Sun Belt cities peaked a bit later (i.e. Atlanta in 1970) or are still growing (LA, Houston, Phoenix), due to the invention of air conditioning.
 

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Urban planners seem like they won’t be happy until the population density of America’s cities rivals that of Mumbai.

Can we just stop please.
Actually, population density in central Boston is lower than it should be — too many offices and attractions, not enough housing. The result is hellish traffic and the gentrification of outlying neighborhoods.

Btw, I realize that only a handful of cities have these problems, and we’re blessed that some of our bigger problems arise from the mishandling of prosperity. There are worse things.
 

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I missed this. Removing bleacher seats is lame. Fenway fans become so quiet (the main noise is the incessant music and crap through the P.A. system).
I will wait to see the final product before I officially trash it. They do manage to surprise me with their design.
I wonder whether it will screw up my 10 man plan tickets I have in the bleachers. I assume not.
 

Max Power

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Full steam ahead. There's a giant hole in the ground where the old parking garage used to be. There's also a total rebuild of the old art high school across the street, so the whole area is a mess.