Cutting The Cord on Cable/Satellite TV Service?

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A ps3 will have the blu ray disc player I know of apps to stream at least to the MLB, the NHL and Netflix. I'm almost sure about the NFL, but have no idea about the NBA.
This also looks good at least for mlb.I found a review that said the picture was great. Thanks!


EDIT: Just read some more recent reviews that suggested that the quality was really poor during the 2011 season with multiple server issues and bunch of other techno mumbo jumbo I didn't really understand.
 

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Possibly. Intriguing... Do they have to be watching tv or have the game on in order for me to see it?
If you set it up in such a way where you have your own cable box in the basement, which you control remotely, and the answer is no. If it's hooked up to one the the setups they watch, then yes.
 

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I just downgraded my cable service, and have been thinking of scrapping the whole thing. Do Roku/Boxee/etc. work with content that is exclusively streamable through the channel's website. My daughter loves Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse and Little Einsteins, but Disney appears only to stream full episodes through their own site.
 

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EDIT: Just read some more recent reviews that suggested that the quality was really poor during the 2011 season with multiple server issues and bunch of other techno mumbo jumbo I didn't really understand.
I watched the second half of the 2011 MLB season on my PS3 and thought it came in great, no problems at all. Maybe they fixed some early problems, or I'm one of the few lucky ones, but I loved it. NHL is also really good, but haven't tried anything else besides those two sports.
 

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Yes, the past two seasons mlb.tv has had problems at the beginning of the season but they have gotten it fixed by the a-s break in both cases and it was nearly flawless after that.
 

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I just downgraded my cable service, and have been thinking of scrapping the whole thing. Do Roku/Boxee/etc. work with content that is exclusively streamable through the channel's website. My daughter loves Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse and Little Einsteins, but Disney appears only to stream full episodes through their own site.
I will check it out tonight on my Boxee. It may not work at the moment. Adobe upgraded their flash software and has not finished the linux version yet, so the Boxee is a little behind the times at the moment.
 

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The PS3 had great video quality in 2011 for MLB.tv. It also has apps for Hulu Plus, Netflix, etc.
 

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I just downgraded my cable service, and have been thinking of scrapping the whole thing. Do Roku/Boxee/etc. work with content that is exclusively streamable through the channel's website. My daughter loves Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse and Little Einsteins, but Disney appears only to stream full episodes through their own site.
I looked into this last night. I was not able to find full episodes of these shows on the web. All I saw, whether on the Boxee or PC, was clips. I was able to use the web browser in the boxee and watch those clips. They were 4x3 and definitely not in HD, but watchable.

The process to get the videos is pretty cumbersome though.

According to this, there are episodes on Netflix. Those should stream fine.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/disney-a-mom-and-the-mouse/2011/02/quitting-cable-doesnt-have-to-mean-living-without-disney-channel/
 

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My DTV receiver just died, and when the tech couldn't solve the problem over the phone, she suggested that a tech could come out for a fee of $49.00. I said well, we had Netflix now and that we'd cancel instead of paying that, and suddenly we were given a "one-time complimentary" service call. They really don't want to lose customers. Good thing, because I didn't want to "cut the cord" until I satisfied myself that I could get mlb.tv working with HideMyIP or something like it. Only mention this to let people know you don't have to be pushed around by these folks at all, in this particular economic and technological climate.
 

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I'm an old guy who is in total darkness about all the acronyms, hulu,torrents, boxee etc..but I am all in favor of cutting the cord here simply because we can't afford it really. I've read thru here and I am baffled and embarrassed at how little I understand. Anyhow, I want MLBTV, discovery channel and a few others. I could get used to only network news(the rest is just agenda politics that ends up pissing me off anyway) I'd like to drop it all, maybe get a PlayStation for when the grand kid comes over(I'm assuming the cartoon stuff will disappear for him. Can anyone suggest a simple set-up for a simpleton. I'm in upstate NY so if the NY teams are blacked out...I can live with that. I have a PC capable tv(samsung) The rest are old components that I could afford to replace, just keep broadband and apply those savings sent to time warner.
 

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With your Samsung TV you are in good shape to do pretty much everything you want to do. You will want to run a wired connection from your router to your TV to ensure that you are delivering enough bandwidth for the streaming video.

You will then want to sign up for some combination of Netflix, Hulu+, and MLBTV. Which services you add will be dependent on the content you are interested in. You mentioned Discovery Channel. It looks like Netflix inked a deal to stream some of their shows. Hulu+ has a pretty extensive library of TV shows as well. Depending on what you like, you may want to get that too. If you need the major networks in real time you can try to get TW to give you just those channels. They might not advertise that package so you'll need to call them. If you want no cable bill whatsoever, you may still be able to get the major networks via antenna. The channel availability and antenna requirements will depend on your proximity to the broadcast towers. That option seems to be more complex than you are looking for.
 

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I agree that you ought to look into getting the network channels free via antenna. Go to this page , put in your zip code and see where your channels are. Unless you are on the back side of a wooded hill, you should be able to get PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX without paying a monthly fee. Strange things happen, tho. We are on the North side of a hill in MA, and the only stations we can get are from VT and NH. It's definitely worth trying, and we found that our old antenna, mounted in the attic of our outbuilding, does a better job than the new "HD" antennas.
 

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I'm really interested in this as well. I'm a DirecTV subscriber using their new Entertainent economy package. I had to give up MLB and NFL networks for this downgrade, but I save $10/month by doing so and with the Internet, I'm more than capable of making these "sacrifices". My monthly bill is a little north of $100 due to the number of receivers we have and the whole-home DVR option.

Of the channels we get, the following would be considered essential and possible (?) deal breakers for cutting the cord:
Cartoon Network (kids)
Comedy Central (Jon Stewart)
Disney (kids)
Fox News (live stream not the webcast)
FX (Sons of Anarchy, Justified, etc)
Headline News (Robin Meade in the morning is FAR preferable to the Fox and Friends tard fest) - like to have this in background while doing things around the house
Nickelodeon (kids)
the networks (Modern Family, Parenthood, etc.) - available through Hulu, I'd guess?
HBO (original series, not movies - we tend to redbox those)

Holy shit. When I look at how little we actually utilize from the packages these companies offer, the more pissed off I am that we can't just order things a la carte.

I'd need to have some sort of DVR feature as my wife and I rarely watch live TV shows anymore. We generally catch up on our shows sometime after 10pm and not always on the same night the show first aired. I'd guess that something like Hulu would suffice for this if the shows are posted within a reasonable time (a few days) after the original air date.

The big reason I went with DirecTV was for Sunday Ticket. I live in NC, so I can't always see the Pats and even though it's expensive I'm happy to pay for this service to be able to see every Pats game. If I were younger or single, I'd be more inclined to hit a local sports bar, but my wife is a pharmacist and often works weekends, so I'm here with the kids.

Lastly, my Internet sucks. It's only $19.99/month AT&T DSL, but they don't offer the higher bandwidth options in my area. I could go to Time Warner cable Internet instead for $49.99/month with 30Mbps download speed (far better than the 1.5Mbps or whatever I have now), but that would mostly be to better stream video. Could I go with a lower bandwidth option and still get decent streaming video?

I've got 3 PS3s (bedroom, den, and bonus room), so I don't think I'd need a Roku or Apple TV or anything like that, but I'm open to suggestions.

Trust me, if I approached my wife and said I was getting rid of the monthly DirecTV bill, saving money, and she'd still be able to watch her Parenthood, House, etc, I'd have no problems convincing her.

Also, I've got an HDTV antenna that I could hook up to get my local channels if that affects any suggestions.

Lastly, I don't want to have a computer or any noisy peripheral next to the TV.
 

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Of the channels we get, the following would be considered essential and possible (?) deal breakers for cutting the cord:
Cartoon Network (kids)
Comedy Central (Jon Stewart)
Disney (kids)
Fox News (live stream not the webcast)
FX (Sons of Anarchy, Justified, etc)
Headline News (Robin Meade in the morning is FAR preferable to the Fox and Friends tard fest) - like to have this in background while doing things around the house
Nickelodeon (kids)
the networks (Modern Family, Parenthood, etc.) - available through Hulu, I'd guess?
HBO (original series, not movies - we tend to redbox those)

Also, I've got an HDTV antenna that I could hook up to get my local channels if that affects any suggestions.

Lastly, I don't want to have a computer or any noisy peripheral next to the TV.
You can find a ton of children programming via netflix & hulu. With a lot of your programming, are you OK with watching things after they've aired? In particular the Daily Show. Hulu has it the next day.

SoA are carried by NetFlix, but a season behind. Can you adjust to watching it a season behind? Justified isn't currently available, though I think you could find it online somewhere. HuluPlus has a TON of programming like Modern Family, Parenthood, etc. All a day after they've aired. Maybe even less than a day? HuluPlus also offers full series of current shows & old shows like Hunter. HBO has HBO Go via Roku, XBox Live and maybe others? You need an HBO subscription for it.

With the number of movies available through NetFlix, you wouldn't need RedBox, I don't think.

News shows live streaming is tough. CNN International live streams through Roku and other services I believe, and usually airs US CNN content during US daytime-primetime hours. Fox programming is available after they air. Some UStream channels air programming live, but you need to look for it.

Between NetFlix,HuluPlus & my internet I pay less than $70/month.

w/ a PS3, XBox, Roku, there are a lot of options to stream content w/o tethering your laptop to the TV.
 

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For shows like Justified and Sons of Anarchy, you may want to look into Amazon video. We stream a lot of these non-network TV shows that we must have through Amazon. You pay per episode (usually between $2-3 per episode), and the benefit is that you actually get to own the videos, so its like buying them on DVD anyways, except you get them real time (usually the day after the show airs). Amazon has Justified and Sons of Anarchy up for their current seasons right now.

The Scubette and I did this because like you, we only watch a handful of shows, and its better to simply purchase them a la carte from Amazon, instead of pay for a cable package. Parenthood, Modern Family, and the Daily Show you can get on Hulu plus ($7.99 per month). I also think I got an email some time ago from Amazon saying they signed a deal with Disney to stream some of their shows via Amazon Prime "free" streaming. I have no clue how you will get stuff like Fox News and CNN Headline news other than some webcast, which you stated was not preferable.

Since we cut the cord back in August, the only channels I truly miss are Food Network and HGTV. But for $8 a month for Hulu, and $80 a year for Amazon, 90% of what we were watching is available. Add in the 3-4 shows at $30 per season, and both Hulu and Amazon, we are paying something like $300 a year total for cable. Plus, we rent tons of movies off Amazon, so maybe then $400 for the year with everything. It turned out to be significantly cheaper then any cable package we could find.
 

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For shows like Justified and Sons of Anarchy, you may want to look into Amazon video. We stream a lot of these non-network TV shows that we must have through Amazon. You pay per episode (usually between $2-3 per episode), and the benefit is that you actually get to own the videos, so its like buying them on DVD anyways, except you get them real time (usually the day after the show airs). Amazon has Justified and Sons of Anarchy up for their current seasons right now.

The Scubette and I did this because like you, we only watch a handful of shows, and its better to simply purchase them a la carte from Amazon, instead of pay for a cable package. Parenthood, Modern Family, and the Daily Show you can get on Hulu plus ($7.99 per month). I also think I got an email some time ago from Amazon saying they signed a deal with Disney to stream some of their shows via Amazon Prime "free" streaming. I have no clue how you will get stuff like Fox News and CNN Headline news other than some webcast, which you stated was not preferable.

Since we cut the cord back in August, the only channels I truly miss are Food Network and HGTV. But for $8 a month for Hulu, and $80 a year for Amazon, 90% of what we were watching is available. Add in the 3-4 shows at $30 per season, and both Hulu and Amazon, we are paying something like $300 a year total for cable. Plus, we rent tons of movies off Amazon, so maybe then $400 for the year with everything. It turned out to be significantly cheaper then any cable package we could find.
SSA - for this to work well, how much bandwidth should I be looking to upgrade to? Also, if my wife and I are watching something on one TV and the kids are watching something else on another, will the two streams affect each other and result in choppy video?
 

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This question is slightly off-topic, but not unrelated to the issue of getting local channels via antenna.For a while now, I have had a small antenna in my bedroom hooked up to an old small tv using a converter box for HD. I tried this morning to move a bigger, HD tv into the bedroom. This HD TV has been getting local channels perfectly off a better antenna in the kitchen. When I moved it upstairs and hooked it to the small antenna there, I got no signals whatsoever. I even dragged a bigger HD antenna up there and tried that. I checked my connections ad infinitum and gave up. Why would a converter box do a better job relaying signals than the antenna cable plugged directly into a new HD tv?
 

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SSA - for this to work well, how much bandwidth should I be looking to upgrade to? Also, if my wife and I are watching something on one TV and the kids are watching something else on another, will the two streams affect each other and result in choppy video?
You will probably need to upgrade. I'm skeptical that 1.5mbps could handle multiple devices streaming HD shows at once without getting choppy. However, 30mbps is way more than you need. That seems weird that there isn't somebody offering a middle option.
 

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Time Warner offers two plans below that one. I just assumed (incorrectly), that I'd be better off going all out with a solid bandwidth. If it's not necessary, I'm happy to pay less each month :)

NFL Sunday Ticket is available for PS3 owners even if they don't subscribe to DirecTV. I forgot about that. With MLB.tv, I'm set with sports.

Any chance of finding a way to get HBO? Someone told me to find a friend who has it but doesn't use the HBO Go app. Not sure that would work, but if it did - cha ching!
 

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For HBOGo you need to log into the app with a valid username and password for the cable provider (TW, Verizon, Comcast, etc). If the person doesn't mind giving you that info, and therefor access to their online cable account info, I don't see why it wouldn't work. Unless, it is smart enough to recognize a non-mobile device like a TV that isn't located at the paying customer's house. I doubt it, but who knows.
 

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I use HBOGo on Roku using my friend's DISH account. He lives 5 miles away from me. The other person using the account lives about 1000 miles away.
 

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This seems as good a place as any to put this: PS3 now has an Amazon Instant Video app. Maybe I just missed it, but I didn't see any announcement that it was coming. I just did a search on Google and Google News and couldn't find anything either. Weird. Anyways, I turned on my PS3 today and there it was. PS3 finally has all of the Big Three streaming services now.

I have a Prime account that I haven't really been taking advantage of w/r/t the free movies and TV shows. It looks like there's a bunch of stuff on the free Prime videos that I have in my Netflix queue. If the Netflix library continues to shrink, and Amazon's continues to grow, I may have to consider dropping Netflix and merely using Amazon.
 

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Moving into Allston/Brighton at the end of the summer and looking to find ways to get boned as little as possible by Comcast. Going to likely bundle Internet and TV, as we don't need the phone.

The introductory rate doesn't seem too bad, but I wonder if there is any way to see what it will become after the first year?

Also, it chafes to have to pay $7 a month in modem rental, when a DOCSIS 3.0 modem goes for less than $90 on Amazon. Any recommendations for buying a modem to save money?
 

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Also, it chafes to have to pay $7 a month in modem rental, when a DOCSIS 3.0 modem goes for less than $90 on Amazon. Any recommendations for buying a modem to save money?
I bought this one for Comcast and have had no issues yet (3 or 4 months). It doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it does the job, and it's cheap.
 

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I bought this one for Comcast and have had no issues yet (3 or 4 months). It doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it does the job, and it's cheap.
Its cheap, but with Comcast bumping their standard speed tier to Blast (a tier the runs on the Docsis 3 platform) that modem wont support it. Most people end up buying the Motorola 6121, its probably the most supported retail Docsis 3.0 device.
 

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Reading this thread has got me interested now. Going to try out this RCA Amplified indoor antennae:

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-Indoor-Amplified-Tv-Antenna/dp/B000HKGK9I

To see how it works. I'm in South Boston so not sure if the surrounding houses will interfere. If so, may need to get an outdoor antennae on the roof (three floors).

Have Netflix and Hulu Plus and AppleTV already.

I find myself listening to most Sox/C's/B's games but not having the ability to watch them easily will suck.
 

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I finally cut the cord upon moving to Columbia this past week. After doing some googling and reading some threads on other boards, I decided to go cheap with the antenna. I'm just using basic rabbit ears from RadioShack and RCA. So far, so good. ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX all come in great. We had a pretty bad thunderstorm last night and I never lost signal. PBS has intermittent blips now and then, but is otherwise fine. I also get some random channels that I didn't even know existed, which will come in handy if I ever feel like watching popular TV shows from the 1950's and 1960's. And I get Telemundo. So there's that.

I'm on a 3rd floor apartment that's within 12 miles of all major network signals, so YMMV, obviously. But from what I've read it seems like cheap is the way to go with an antenna, provided you're within decent range of the signals. A lot of people said that amplification could actually be a detriment if you don't really need it. I did a test-run in my prior abode, using the same antennas. I was on the 2nd floor of a three story townhouse outside of Charlotte, about 20-25 miles from major signals. I had a little more trouble getting consistent signal there, as I sometimes had to move the antenna around depending on what channel I wanted to watch and what time of day it was. Here, I've just set them down behind the TVs and been fine. I haven't had to touch them at all.

Combined with Netflix, Amazon Prime Instant Video, MLB.TV, and my father's login to his Comcast account for ESPN3, and I think I'm all set. I haven't missed cable at all in the past week. That will probably change come football season, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there (time to find a good local sports bar). And I have Time Warner, so I wouldn't get NFL Network anyways. Honestly, the biggest thing I miss is probably the on-screen guide. Now I have to look up what's on TV like a plebe. There's definitely some utility that I'm losing from not being able to scan through channels and find some random show that is interesting, but there's no way that's worth $50+ a month. Not having AMC sucks, but I can just buy episodes of Mad Men and The Walking Dead when the time comes (I'm just now getting into Breaking Bad's first season on Netflix).
 

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Officially cut the cord with DIRECTV yesterday and shaved about $75 off my Verizon bill (reseller of directv).

Returned the antennae that I mentioned up thread (and another omnidirectional from best Buy) and got this from Radio Shack. From my second floor, near a window I get 22 channels and Boston 4/5/7/25 in HD. Rewired the existing coaxial drops in the basement to connect the antennae through a splitter to hit both of our HD TV's.

I'll listen to the Sox on the radio. All but one Patriots game will be on network television (Houston/ESPN game) and I'll cross the B's/C's bridge when the time comes.

AppleTV/Hulu+/Netflix/iTunes for everything else. Pretty satisfied so far.
 

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Since I moved into my apartment in mid-April, I had been relying on a cheap antenna to get me the 3 or 4 channels that come in okay near Baltimore. Just for the hell of it, I decided to try to attach my coaxial into the TV instead of the modem. I'm not sure how, but I'm getting like 15 HD channels and another 25 SD channels without paying for it, including the major networks in both DC and Baltimore (which will be nice during football season.) So I'm just splitting my coaxial to go into both the TV and modem, and only paying for internet. I can't complain.
 

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I did a quick search of this topic and found out that it hadn't been mentioned, so for folks who are interested in an antenna I've had really good luck with the Mohu Leaf. It's currently listed at $37 so it's a bit more than I wanted to pay for an antenna, but it couldn't be easier to set up (it's practically a laminated piece of paper) and functionally, it's the best performance I've got after several years in downtown high rises. $40 well spent.
 

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Since I moved into my apartment in mid-April, I had been relying on a cheap antenna to get me the 3 or 4 channels that come in okay near Baltimore. Just for the hell of it, I decided to try to attach my coaxial into the TV instead of the modem. I'm not sure how, but I'm getting like 15 HD channels and another 25 SD channels without paying for it, including the major networks in both DC and Baltimore (which will be nice during football season.) So I'm just splitting my coaxial to go into both the TV and modem, and only paying for internet. I can't complain.
This used to be the case with virtually every cable provider, the bigger ones have since locked this down.
 

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We are contemplating getting rid of cable to save money, but I am unsure what we will need. The issue is that we have only CRT TVs, though we will likely buy a flatscreen in 2 years or so.

I think the Roku works with old TVs, would we need one for each TV in the house?
 

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We are contemplating getting rid of cable to save money, but I am unsure what we will need. The issue is that we have only CRT TVs, though we will likely buy a flatscreen in 2 years or so.

I think the Roku works with old TVs, would we need one for each TV in the house?
You would need multiple Roku's if you wanted it on multiple TV's. Of course, you could just have one Roku and you could move it from TV to TV if necessary. This would require the Roku box to be in an accessible place so it is easy to move. But that wouldn't be difficult.
 

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We are contemplating getting rid of cable to save money, but I am unsure what we will need. The issue is that we have only CRT TVs, though we will likely buy a flatscreen in 2 years or so.

I think the Roku works with old TVs, would we need one for each TV in the house?
You will also need one of the digital converter boxes for each TV if you intend to watch over the air programming via antenna.
 

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Bumping this thread because I came across SimpleTV, which appears to be a pretty cool product that is to be released in the next few weeks.

https://www.simple.tv/

Seems like the perfect solution for someone who has cut the cord on cable TV and now uses antenna or basic OTA cable, but still wants to have a DVR (you provide your own external hard drive as storage). Apparently they had a successful Kickstarter campaign earlier this year, and are now starting to ship them out. I've been on the lookout for something similar, so I'll be keeping a close eye on reviews in the next few months.
 

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Another development in the last couple days - for those with Xbox consoles and Xbox Live - is that ESPN has thrown basically all their content (including live content) into the ESPN app. The huge caveat is that you need to login via a cable company to verify service, but that's what parents and siblings are for, right?
 

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One annoying thing about the parents/friends/siblings thing for verifying service relates to Roku and HBO Go. Comcast doesn't allow HBO Go streaming via Roku, though I can on my phone.

The other annoyance I have found with Roku is it is interfering with my powered antenna, to the point that I thought the antenna was a lemon after buying it. I have to unplug the Roku box if I want to watch live TV, which is to say it's not very convenient. Anyone else had this problem?
 

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Bumping this thread because I came across SimpleTV, which appears to be a pretty cool product that is to be released in the next few weeks.

https://www.simple.tv/

Seems like the perfect solution for someone who has cut the cord on cable TV and now uses antenna or basic OTA cable, but still wants to have a DVR (you provide your own external hard drive as storage). Apparently they had a successful Kickstarter campaign earlier this year, and are now starting to ship them out. I've been on the lookout for something similar, so I'll be keeping a close eye on reviews in the next few months.
This is awesome. Thanks for the link.

Another development in the last couple days - for those with Xbox consoles and Xbox Live - is that ESPN has thrown basically all their content (including live content) into the ESPN app. The huge caveat is that you need to login via a cable company to verify service, but that's what parents and siblings are for, right?
Does this require Xbox live gold?

Edit: Looks like it does require gold.
 

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I just moved into a building that has access to something called SpotOn Network as well as Cablevision/Optimum. SpotOn wil give me "up to" 5Mbs each for up to 5 devices for $29.99. Optimum is "up to" 20Mbs total for $34.99 for the first 6 months and $69.99 thereafter. I'm thinking the SpotOn deal is better as long as the speed is ok as I will probably always have 2-3 devices running simultaneously. Will "up to" 5Mbs be enough to handle Netflix and Xbox live? If so, I'm thinking of hooking up an AppleTv, an Xbox, an HD antenna and buh-bye cable company.
 

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I just moved into a building that has access to something called SpotOn Network as well as Cablevision/Optimum. SpotOn wil give me "up to" 5Mbs each for up to 5 devices for $29.99. Optimum is "up to" 20Mbs total for $34.99 for the first 6 months and $69.99 thereafter. I'm thinking the SpotOn deal is better as long as the speed is ok as I will probably always have 2-3 devices running simultaneously. Will "up to" 5Mbs be enough to handle Netflix and Xbox live? If so, I'm thinking of hooking up an AppleTv, an Xbox, an HD antenna and buh-bye cable company.
How much upload speed do each of those give you?
 

edoug

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Jul 15, 2005
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I've never heard of SpotOn but 5Mbs is enough for Netflix. Download should be fine but what are the upload speeds if you plan on playing Xbox online.