Don Mattingly, LAD "mutually part ways"
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Not surprising at all on this one. If they didn't reach the world series I felt like he was done.
I don't think many mangers could survive operating under an active cap hovering around $200M and not getting out of the division series. Next year's manager will only have ~$160M hanging over his head with the current roster. It dips to $135M in 2017, and $103M in 2018 with the current roster. Let the FA signings begin.
strek1 said:
Nah, I think the Lamar Odom ending up unconscious and near death in a Vegas brothel is much less shocking.
Fun fact about Don Mattingly's managerial record:
June 22, 2013-Sept. 3, 2013: 53-13, .803 win percentage
Rest of managerial career: 393-350, .529 win percentage, extrapolates to 85.7 wins per season.
The Dodgers had that one amazing stretch of baseball (when Yasiel Puig came up and lit the team on fire) that saved Donny's job in 2013. That stretch remains the only notable part of Mattingly's managerial career. I hope Mattingly sends Puig a Christmas card every year thanking him for two extra years of paychecks.
June 22, 2013-Sept. 3, 2013: 53-13, .803 win percentage
Rest of managerial career: 393-350, .529 win percentage, extrapolates to 85.7 wins per season.
The Dodgers had that one amazing stretch of baseball (when Yasiel Puig came up and lit the team on fire) that saved Donny's job in 2013. That stretch remains the only notable part of Mattingly's managerial career. I hope Mattingly sends Puig a Christmas card every year thanking him for two extra years of paychecks.
cannonball 1729 said:
This is a pretty misleading post. The first 2 years of Mattingly's tenure were at the tail end of the McCourt ownership/handing over to the MLB then the new ownership, when the team was slashing payroll left and right and had practically nobody in the farm system. He won 82 and 86 games those 2 years, which is pretty alright considering the situation he had to work with. The next 3 seasons after the new ownership took over and did start spending, he won 92, 94 and 92 games, winning the NL West each year.
I don't think Mattingly is a great manager by any stretch, and you are probably right that he would be fired if they didn't turn the season around in 2013. But they did. I think it's crap that you just take out a 66 game hot streak, and then fail to mention that 40% of his managerial tenure was under the ownership of Frank McCourt, and say "His winning percentage was only .529". It seems like you are going out of your way to cherry pick numbers just to shit on the guy.
“among managers with a winning percentage of .550 or greater in the regular season and at least 15 postseason games managed, Mattingly has the second-worst postseason winning percentage (.421), behind only Grady Little.” -- ESPN
I think the dodgers did the right thing, unless of course, they hire Grady Little. Or they could hire a guy who can't manage .550 in the regular season.
I think the dodgers did the right thing, unless of course, they hire Grady Little. Or they could hire a guy who can't manage .550 in the regular season.
cannonball 1729 said:
If he was under contract he gets those anyway. But if that stretch got him an extension he should send at least 20% of his earnings to Puig.
RingoOSU said:
Yeah, they did that once already. If they would hire him again they should be asked to leave MLB for good.
RingoOSU said:
Mattingly's postseason winning percentage is due to his 8-11 record there. I dunno if he's a good manager or not, but that's such a stupidly small sample size I'd want other data besides that to confirm his unfitness to be manager.
And Grady's is due to his 6-9 record.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
An even smaller sample size.
Just saying...
(Of course, we do have "other data besides that to confirm his [Little's] unfitness to be manager.")
Little, of course, we all knew was gonna fuck things up when given the chance because we had seen it happen time and again in the regular season. His worst habits emerged in the playoffs at the worst possible time.
So pointing out Little's postseason record is also not a great indicator of his idiocy because it doesn't account for the mistakes we saw beforehand.
Anywho, sounds like Mattingly's going to interview for the vacant Marlins job.
So pointing out Little's postseason record is also not a great indicator of his idiocy because it doesn't account for the mistakes we saw beforehand.
Anywho, sounds like Mattingly's going to interview for the vacant Marlins job.
And now he has it.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14036114/don-mattingly-introduced-miami-marlins-manager
Marlins coaching staff under Mattingly
Today, we’re excited to announce the addition of five new members to our coaching staff under manager Don Mattingly! Joining the #Marlins in 2016 will be: • Tim Wallach, bench coach • Juan Nieves, pitching coach • Barry Bonds, hitting coach • Brian Schneider, catching coach • Lorenzo Bundy, outfield/base running coach Returning to our coaching staff from 2015 will be: • Frank Menechino, assistant hitting coach • Perry Hill, first base/infield coach • Lenny Harris, third base coach • Reid Cornelius, bullpen coach
Today, we’re excited to announce the addition of five new members to our coaching staff under manager Don Mattingly! Joining the #Marlins in 2016 will be: • Tim Wallach, bench coach • Juan Nieves, pitching coach • Barry Bonds, hitting coach • Brian Schneider, catching coach • Lorenzo Bundy, outfield/base running coach Returning to our coaching staff from 2015 will be: • Frank Menechino, assistant hitting coach • Perry Hill, first base/infield coach • Lenny Harris, third base coach • Reid Cornelius, bullpen coach