FIBA World Cup 2023

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when was the last time we had a national team with this little recognition?
Maybe the ‘88 bronze medal (amateur) team that was led led in scoring by … Thunder Dan Majerle? (That team also had David Robinson, but a year before he hit the NBA.)

But as you allude to with the ‘19 example, our World Cup teams have tended to be significantly younger and less star-studded than our Olympic teams.
 

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I like it for players connecting with their actual heritage. Qatar* trying to buy themselves a team via citizenship offers stretches that too far for me, which is why I think you're limited to one naturalized citizen on the roster (and why Italy waited on DiVincenzo until Banchero backed away). You could talk me into two, perhaps, if I thought there were enough instances of players in that situation to warrant it.

* Fun game: guess where the next FIBA World Cup will be held in 2027!
 

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I like it for players connecting with their actual heritage. Qatar* trying to buy themselves a team via citizenship offers stretches that too far for me, which is why I think you're limited to one naturalized citizen on the roster (and why Italy waited on DiVincenzo until Banchero backed away). You could talk me into two, perhaps, if I thought there were enough instances of players in that situation to warrant it.

* Fun game: guess where the next FIBA World Cup will be held in 2027!
Don't even!!

This is probably the most excited I am to watch a competitive product. I'm not buying this FIBA-inexperienced USA squad being such a wide favorite and so many countries are live to make deep runs and even to win it. We've never seen such parity in International ball before and I like it.
 

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And then there were none?

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/kristaps-porzingis-dealing-with-foot-injury-that-may-keep-celtics-center-out-of-fiba-world-cup

Kristaps Porzingis Dealing with Foot Injury That May Keep Celtics' Center Out of FIBA World Cup
Celtics center Kristaps Porzingis did not participate in the Latvian men's basketball team's first two exhibition games as they gear up for the FIBA World Cup.​
As the Latvian Men's National Basketball Team gears up for its first appearance in the FIBA World Cup, Kristaps Porzingis did not participate in their first two exhibition games.​
It appears a foot injury is responsible for that and threatens his availability for the tournament. According to Rupert Fabig of the Hamburger Abendblatt, the former All-Star center, the Latvian men's basketball program, and the Boston Celtics will wait until the last minute to decide his status.​
 

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Banchero is a big, strong dude. Can't shoot free throws, though.
 

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Not sure how many timeouts each team is allowed in FIBA, but the end of the game had a terrific flow. None of the stop-and-start that plagues NBA games, with endless timeouts and video reviews.
 

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The basketball world cup could one day become the equivalent of the soccer world cup, but it's undermined by NBA teams trying to protect their players and the probably uniquly American idea that an Olympic medal is more prestigious than the world cup. Which is sort of true when teams aren't able to send their best players to play... because they don't think it's prestigious enough.

I wish some arrangement could be found.
 

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Germany coming off a back-to-back ran out of gas in Q4. I'll be surprised if this US team wins Gold. Just too hard to build cohesion in 30 days
 

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Kerr pretty much needs to have one of Haliburton or Reaves on the floor at all times....preferably both of them. Players beginning to separate so let's see if Kerr plays to have the best team on the floor or succumb to the politics of it all. I don't envy him.
 

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Kerr pretty much needs to have one of Haliburton or Reaves on the floor at all times....preferably both of them. Players beginning to separate so let's see if Kerr plays to have the best team on the floor or succumb to the politics of it all. I don't envy him.
Closing lineup against Germany was Reaves/Edwards/Bridges/Portis/JJJ. That is a stifling frontcourt defensively, and if Reaves/Edwards are going to combine for 50 points, it will work just fine.
 

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Kerr pretty much needs to have one of Haliburton or Reaves on the floor at all times....preferably both of them. Players beginning to separate so let's see if Kerr plays to have the best team on the floor or succumb to the politics of it all. I don't envy him.
It pains me to say nice things about Lakers, but Reaves is exactly the kind of role player every team needs. I'm a fan.
 
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He really is. He might be a bit underpowered for a 3rd option on a title team, but if his playoff numbers are real (an efficient 17/4/5), he's good enough playing as the 3rd guy behind a health Lebron/AD (and if one of those guys are hurt, the Lakers won't matter anyway regardless of what Reaves does).

It's hard to predict how much growth he has left, given that he's already 25, isn't exactly physically imposing and his offensive game is already very mature, but he's also played just two seasons. His career will be interesting to watch.
 

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How's Canada? Freakin France 2H beat down by 30! There is a thing such as having too much talent.....maybe removing Murray solidifies role definitions better now that there is a clear understsnding of who the go-to guy is. This is THE team of this event. AYE!!!
 

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How's Canada? Freakin France 2H beat down by 30! There is a thing such as having too much talent.....maybe removing Murray solidifies role definitions better now that there is a clear understsnding of who the go-to guy is. This is THE team of this event. AYE!!!
Yes and no. There has been a lot of talk about not detroying the core of non NBA guys that helped them qualify, and that last time Nurse just pulled the NBA guys and started over with nba type stuff. But, the talk on Murray is he was complete team guy and very good in FIBA. There was some talk with Murray they thought they could win the entire thing.

View: https://twitter.com/CanBball/status/1695133638004810002?s=20
 
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Yes and no. There has been a lot of talk about not detroying the core of non NBA guys that helped them qualify, and that last time Nurse just pulled the NBA guys and started over with nba type stuff. But, the talk on Murray is he was complete team guy and very good in FIBA. There was some talk with Murray they thought they could win the entire thing.
Why can't they without Murray? Instead of SGA taking turns w Murray there is one clear leader to the team. I don't see any reason why they aren't considered co-favorites or close to this with their current roster. USA squeaked by a meh Germany squad while Canada whipped another of the medalist contenders by 30!
 

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Why can't they without Murray? Instead of SGA taking turns w Murray there is one clear leader to the team. I don't see any reason why they aren't considered co-favorites or close to this with their current roster. USA squeaked by a meh Germany squad while Canada whipped another of the medalist contenders by 30!
My guess, is after two epic collapses, blasting through the tournament of the Americas then falling to Venezuela, then last Olympics blowing out everyon on the way to play in they lost at home, Basketball Canada is wary of predictions.
The thought on Murray is BBC thought he would be the best player in the tournament.
 

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My guess, is after two epic collapses, blasting through the tournament of the Americas then falling to Venezuela, then last Olympics blowing out everyon on the way to play in they lost at home, Basketball Canada is wary of predictions.
The thought on Murray is BBC thought he would be the best player in the tournament.
I agreed with those thoughts on Murray but after seeing them dismantle a good French squad I'm not sure it matters if you simply replace the acronym SGA as the best player in the tournament. Plus, this is the first time I'm on the Canadian side. :)
 

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I agreed with those thoughts on Murray but after seeing them dismantle a good French squad I'm not sure it matters if you simply replace the acronym SGA as the best player in the tournament. Plus, this is the first time I'm on the Canadian side. :)
SGA and Luka are the only FIBA players that made all-NBA this past season, unless I'm missing someone. It's not a star studded tournament, at all (and if you include the 2022 All-NBA team rosters, the only additional player is KAT). With that in mind, SGA can definitely be the best player in these games (especially because unlike Luka, he doesn't have to do EVERYTHING for his team).
 

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No upsets in the first 2 days. I think the biggest notes are how strong Canada looked and the US coming nowhere near covering the spread.
 

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First real upset: Latvia, in front of an amazing number of traveling Latvian fans, beat France 88-86, to qualify for the round of 16. Great team effort in the face of a more talented French squad.
 

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The flow of these games is so much more enjoyable vs the end-of-game slog in the NBA. In and out in under two hours! Feels like watching MLB this season with the pitch clock. Breath of fresh air.
 

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It's true the U.S. team lacks star power that SGA and Donic bring other countries, but guys like Brunson, JJ, Reaves and Haliburton ... in some ways are preferable since it moves away from the danger of "5 stars/1 ball" type of thing. If Banchero continues to hold up at C, really like the team construct.
 

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Pretty cool day today, it's cool to see how basketball is emerging in Asia and Africa. South Sudan picked up their first win in FIBA history today, with a pretty convincing stomping of China. China has spent so much money and state energy into developing a powerful basketball program, and yet they are steamrolled by one of the poorest, underdeveloped nations on earth:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDNGVfz-y9c