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Sad Sam Jones

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Kevin PIllar just got a hit in his 9th straight game, during which he is 16-for-31. He was released by the White Sox a few weeks after starting the season 4-for-25.
 

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Urias really cratered out there. .152 avg and .580 ops could be partially explained by BABIP, but his K rate also jumped 11%.
 

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Happy to see our old friend Iggy back in The Show!
Playing 2B for the Mets tonight, he just made terrible throws trying to complete easy DPs on consecutive plays, throwing it so wildly the 1B couldn't put a glove on it either time, cost them one run in the end.
 

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Speaking of the Mets, old friend Pablo Reyes already doing damage

Catcher Payton Henry of the Triple-A Buffalo Bisons was hospitalized Friday night after he was struck by a batter's backswing and carted off the field on a stretcher. Henry was hit in the back of the head by the swing from Syracuse Mets third baseman Pablo Reyes in the seventh inning. He immediately went to the ground upon contact and athletic trainers tended to him.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40253644/triple-catcher-payton-henry-hit-backswing-hospitalized
 

Rovin Romine

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We should have a gallery of "Guys We Can't Live Without!"
Five weeks later.
June 1 Update.


Christian Vazquez - .598 OPS last year, and ice-cold so far with a .310 OPS.
Up to .441 OPS.
Down to a .386 OPS.


Xander - .790 OPS last year, .601 this year as a second-baseman.
.550 OPS. Still a second-baseman. Maybe.
.581 OPS. Fractured Shoulder.


E-Rod - a convincing 2023 campaign of 26 starts, but yet to take the field this year.
60-day IL.
Still injured - not yet throwing.


Renfroe - .710 OPS last year (two clubs), and doing nothing (literally) for KCR so far - a .000 OPS in 4 games.
.483 OPS
.565 OPS


JDM - A good 2023 when healthy which was not even 3/4 of the season (.893 in 113 games). Maybe he'll play some games for the Mets soon.
.635 OPS in 45 ABs.
.785 OPS - Go Mets!


Eovaldi - in JDM's boat with 25 starts and a 3.63 ERA, but healthy for an excellent post-season. His only start this year was good.
7 starts, 2.61 ERA. On the IL since 5/2.
Returned on 5/28 with a 3 inning start.


Enrique Hernandez - rebounded in 2023 for LAD, but off to a cold start this year: .413 OPS.
.573 OPS
.552 OPS


Wacha - A most-of-the-season starter for SD in 2023 (24 starts) his absences did not help the Padre cause. He's off to a rocky start in KCR with a 5.40 ERA.
8 starts, 5.15 ERA
12 starts, 4.24 ERA


Pham - signed late with the CWS and is off to a blistering .814 OPS in 54 ABs. He also has played 100 innings in CF.
.773 OPS - slipped below JD.

Guys not in the majors: JBJ, Plawecki, Arroyo (minors, Brewers).
 

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Oh, and Justin Turner at 217/305/349. The “don’t sigh free agents” strategy is frustrating but kinda seems like the right one. Lot more misses than hits.
 

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The 2013 me is still upset we traded Iglesias for Peavy. I really thought he and Bogie (future all-star 3B) could've been our left side of the infield for a decade. The WS championship made that hurt a bit less.
 

InsideTheParker

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Iggy just beat out a throw to first in the ninth to score a run, followed by a homer by Alonso. The SNY booth talking about how happy Iggy is to be in the big leagues. The Mets are going to lose the game, as all this happened in the ninth with two outs, the Mets down 10-1 at the beginning of the inning.
edit: continuing the former Sox theme, the Dbacks brought in their closer Sewald and JD Martinez flew out to end the game.
 

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We should have a gallery of "Guys We Can't Live Without!"
Five weeks later.
June 1 Update.


Christian Vazquez - .598 OPS last year, and ice-cold so far with a .310 OPS.
Up to .441 OPS.
Down to a .386 OPS.


Xander - .790 OPS last year, .601 this year as a second-baseman.
.550 OPS. Still a second-baseman. Maybe.
.581 OPS. Fractured Shoulder.


E-Rod - a convincing 2023 campaign of 26 starts, but yet to take the field this year.
60-day IL.
Still injured - not yet throwing.


Renfroe - .710 OPS last year (two clubs), and doing nothing (literally) for KCR so far - a .000 OPS in 4 games.
.483 OPS
.565 OPS


JDM - A good 2023 when healthy which was not even 3/4 of the season (.893 in 113 games). Maybe he'll play some games for the Mets soon.
.635 OPS in 45 ABs.
.785 OPS - Go Mets!


Eovaldi - in JDM's boat with 25 starts and a 3.63 ERA, but healthy for an excellent post-season. His only start this year was good.
7 starts, 2.61 ERA. On the IL since 5/2.
Returned on 5/28 with a 3 inning start.


Enrique Hernandez - rebounded in 2023 for LAD, but off to a cold start this year: .413 OPS.
.573 OPS
.552 OPS


Wacha - A most-of-the-season starter for SD in 2023 (24 starts) his absences did not help the Padre cause. He's off to a rocky start in KCR with a 5.40 ERA.
8 starts, 5.15 ERA
12 starts, 4.24 ERA


Pham - signed late with the CWS and is off to a blistering .814 OPS in 54 ABs. He also has played 100 innings in CF.
.773 OPS - slipped below JD.

Guys not in the majors: JBJ, Plawecki, Arroyo (minors, Brewers).
Why can't we get guys like that!
Oh wait, that overplayed nonsense is only posted incessantly when guys leave and do well.
 

HfxBob

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Oh, and Justin Turner at 217/305/349. The “don’t sigh free agents” strategy is frustrating but kinda seems like the right one. Lot more misses than hits.
Turner still has time to turn it around, though. (I was indifferent about re-signing him.)

Not going to go hunting for the quote, but I'm pretty sure Theo Epstein said after a few years with the Sox that if you hit more than 50% on your free agent picks you're doing very well. Words of wisdom as usual.
 
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Rovin Romine

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Turner still has time to turn it around, though. (I was indifferent about re-signing him.)

Not going to go hunting for the quote, but I'm pretty sure Theo Epstein said after a few years with the Sox that if you hit more than 50% on your free agent picks you're doing very well. Words of wisdom as usual.
His ability to hit the fastball has increasingly deteriorated, and his bat speed is down to the bottom 1% of ML batters.
 

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Rovin Romine

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He's had quite a day.

https://www.threads.net/@actionnetworkhq/post/C7uq_itsVz1/?xmt=AQGzqaRrpKLy3k1f0_XiGnmwhdyX9qNNyI27nRcBFUfD5g


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Also, the ChiSox sent Benny to the IL with Anchilles tendonitis today. Hopefully he can get a bunch of minor-league "rehab" ABs and sort himself out.
Pham's still in CF, so his dWAR is dragging down his overall value. His OPS+ is 109 at the moment, but his fWAR is 0.1 after 132 ABs.

He'd be much more valuable in a corner OF spot. . .but it's not like CWS are spoiled for choice there.

(Pham's a good poster child for the Sox. His OPS+ with us was the second lowest of his career. This is where decent hitters come to underperform. Despite hitters park, energy of the crowd, yada yada.)
 

Rovin Romine

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It is? I don’t think of Duvall, Turner, Renfroe, or O’Neill underperforming but perhaps I’m not remembering a horrible home split or some advanced metric.
Clearly it's not a universal thing, and some hitters have gotten better.

If you're curious, look at the the whole roster - guys falling from a 90-110 OPS+ range to a 50-70 is just as damaging as a star underperforming, and it's really there where seasons die. Stopgaps transforming into black-holes.

But for the ones you threw up, I'd suggest Turner was a normal age-decline. The other guys are all power-hitting OFs with injury histories who were brought in on short term make-good, quasi-project contracts. Renfroe did OK (given his career numbers) and hit better after he was traded. Duvall was the same in his 2/3rds of a season. O'Neill - same, and also bit with the injury bug.
 

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Even Mookie is kind of slumping... and you have to notice that the crying has stopped.
We got told to "let it go" when he was playing well and we mentioned it, and now we're told "oh so you've stopped posting now that he's cooled off."

There's no winning with some people.

His "slump" over the last 28 days is a .754 OPS which would be 3rd on the Sox for full time players all year. Sheesh. He also leads the NL in WAR and is 3rd in all of baseball.
 

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Benintendi is having a rough year.

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2024
29​
CHW AL
51​
200​
190​
13​
37​
5​
0​
4​
18​
2​
1​
9​
35​
0.195​
0.23​
0.284​
0.514​
47​
54​
6​
0​
0​
1​
0​


Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary
2024
29​
CHW AL
51​
200​
-14​
-1​
0​
-8​
-1​
-24​
-2.7​
7​
-17​
-2​
0.448​
0.484​
-1.1​
-1.1​
-9​
$17,100,000​
 

Jim Ed Rice in HOF

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Benintendi is having a rough year.

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2024
29​
CHW AL
51​
200​
190​
13​
37​
5​
0​
4​
18​
2​
1​
9​
35​
0.195​
0.23​
0.284​
0.514​
47​
54​
6​
0​
0​
1​
0​


Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary
2024
29​
CHW AL
51​
200​
-14​
-1​
0​
-8​
-1​
-24​
-2.7​
7​
-17​
-2​
0.448​
0.484​
-1.1​
-1.1​
-9​
$17,100,000​
Rough except for that bottom right figure which I imagine eases the pain of being shitty.
 

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On the Mets broadcast today they mentioned there is a new home run song at Citi Field. It’s by Candelita, aka Jose Iglesias. It’s unreleased except for at the ballpark.
 

The Gray Eagle

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Wait that’s Mike Brumley, former Red Sox player who was traded for Bill Buckner then came back and played here. RIP.
 

nattysez

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Randomly checking in on Xander today -- he's played 2 innings at SS and otherwise has been at second (aside from 3 games at DH): 68 OPS, -.1 WAR
 

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Randomly checking in on Xander today -- he's played 2 innings at SS and otherwise has been at second (aside from 3 games at DH): 68 OPS, -.1 WAR
He fractured his shoulder and has been out for the last month also, at least one more month to go.
 

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I always liked Chris Sale, but I understood trading him this offseason. I'm happy he's doing well, but damn.

11-3 (11 wins are 1st in MLB)
2.71 era (8th in MLB)
0.91 whip (1st in MLB)
11.5 k/9 (6th in MLB)
 

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Many years ago, I read a short story in which a guy told his doctor that he had a live lizard in his chest that was ruining his health. The doctor tried to skirt the issue, but eventually, he told the patient, "I don't believe you."

And a lizard jumped out of the patient's chest and into the doctor's. The patient told the doc, "now you now how it starts, and how to get rid of it."

In Red Sox Nation, the injured beyond usefulness lizard jumped from Sale to Grissom when the trade happened. Is the only way to fix him to trade him elsewhere, so he, too, can become an All-Star?
 

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Many years ago, I read a short story in which a guy told his doctor that he had a live lizard in his chest that was ruining his health. The doctor tried to skirt the issue, but eventually, he told the patient, "I don't believe you."

And a lizard jumped out of the patient's chest and into the doctor's. The patient told the doc, "now you now how it starts, and how to get rid of it."

In Red Sox Nation, the injured beyond usefulness lizard jumped from Sale to Grissom when the trade happened. Is the only way to fix him to trade him elsewhere, so he, too, can become an All-Star?
Based on how the first half has gone for the Sox in general I'd argue that lizard, and his extended family, live at Fenway. Probably in the corner of the clubhouse where Sale's locker was and lockers belonging to Grissom, Story, Whitlock, and Casas are now.