Garrett Richards testifying in Skaggs trial

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ESPN article by TJ Quinn on Tyler Skaggs mentions that Garrett Richards made numerous Venmo payments the the accused dealer who allegedly provided the opioids to Skaggs.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33291935/drug-dealer-testifies-stage-set-matt-harvey-take-stand-trial-former-los-angeles-angels-staffer-eric-kay
That is one of the worst-written stories I've read in some time. It took me quite a while to figure out what the hell was going on, but I'm glad I stuck with it because this whole thing is insane. And It definitely looks suspicious that Richards was sending this guy money.
 

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The payments were made to the Angels staffer, not some outside drug dealer. It's certainly possible they were drug related, but I can imagine many other plausible explanations. I'd like to think people who make heroin transactions aren't stupid enough to do so via Venmo.
 
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The payments were made to the Angels staffer, not some outside drug dealer. It's certainly possible they were drug related, but I can imagine many other plausible explanations. I'd like to think people who make heroin transactions aren't stupid enough to do so via Venmo.
"The government also established numerous Venmo payments from Skaggs and pitcher Garrett Richards to Kay. Richards is expected to testify this week."

I guess the government, in prosecuting Kay, is just calling Richards to testify about how his numerous Venmo payments were totally not for illegal services.
 

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I guess the government, in prosecuting Kay, is just calling Richards to testify about how his numerous Venmo payments were totally not for illegal services.
I didn’t see whether Richards was called by the prosecution or the defense, but I wouldn’t expect either side to call him unless the transfers of funds somehow relate to the charges against Kay.

Both he and Harvey probably could have played dumb and avoided testifying. It’s to their credit that they are cooperating. I hope it doesn’t hurt their career prospects. (Of course, both are in their mid-30s and haven’t been good in a few years, so they’d probably be weighing minor-league contract offers at this point regardless.)
 

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I didn’t see whether Richards was called by the prosecution or the defense, but I wouldn’t expect either side to call him unless the transfers of funds somehow relate to the charges against Kay.

Both he and Harvey probably could have played dumb and avoided testifying. It’s to their credit that they are cooperating. I hope it doesn’t hurt their career prospects. (Of course, both are in their mid-30s and haven’t been good in a few years, so they’d probably be weighing minor-league contract offers at this point regardless.)
Considering other players over the years that have gotten second and third and fourth chances after drug issues directly derailed their careers, I'm not sure this should play much into Richards or Harvey's future prospects. Like you said, their age and recent performance are going to be bigger factors.
 

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Considering other players over the years that have gotten second and third and fourth chances after drug issues directly derailed their careers, I'm not sure this should play much into Richards or Harvey's future prospects. Like you said, their age and recent performance are going to be bigger factors.
The optics on this suck for Harvey though. Sounds like he admitted to popping pills in the dugout. It's one thing to do this behind closed doors, but in uniform and in plain sight... not a good look.
 

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Did you get that from the ESPN link or somewhere else? Just asking because I didn't get that from the linked article, but I may have missed it.
I got it from Yahoo!:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/matt-harvey-admits-to-using-percocet-in-clubhouse-and-dugout-during-tyler-skaggs-trial-175735206.html

During his testimony, Harvey admitted to using Percocet in the clubhouse and dugout. He also claimed Skaggs snorted oxycodone in the clubhouse bathroom.
View: https://twitter.com/TJQuinnESPN/status/1493621301675708419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1493621301675708419%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fsports%2Fmatt-harvey-admits-to-using-percocet-in-clubhouse-and-dugout-during-tyler-skaggs-trial-175735206.html


Harvey says he used in clubhouse and dugout. Skaggs told him he crushed and snorted oxy on the toilet paper dispenser in the clubhouse bathroom.
 

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Both he and Harvey probably could have played dumb and avoided testifying. It’s to their credit that they are cooperating.
You may well be proved correct and there may be reporting out there that indicates that Harvey and Richards are, in fact, testifying without any kind of deal, but the ESPN article indicates that at least one government witness has already been given immunity in exchange for his testimony. It doesn’t seem outside the realm of possibility that the players have gotten deals of their own and are cooperating for that reason. In any case, this exchange started because I said the Richards Venmo payments to Kay seem suspicious. Nothing that has been discussed since then has made me think I should reconsider that opinion.

EDIT: I should add that you are correct. It could be the defense that’s calling Richards, perhaps to demonstrate that players Venmo-ed Kay money for non-drug reasons. I don’t know enough about the case to know, but that does seem at least possible.
 
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Using in the clubhouse/dugout is a bad look, for sure. Acting as a drug supplier to a teammate who later OD’d (even if the OD wasn’t connected to you) is disqualifying.

I’m not going to comment about Richards until I hear what he says, but I will be absolutely shocked if Harvey ever throws another pitch for any team that is affiliated with MLB.
 

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I’m not going to comment about Richards until I hear what he says, but I will be absolutely shocked if Harvey ever throws another pitch for any team that is affiliated with MLB.
Not entirely going out on a limb.
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And that was an improvement on 2019 and 2020...
 

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It could be the defense that’s calling Richards, perhaps to demonstrate that players Venmo-ed Kay money for non-drug reasons. I don’t know enough about the case to know, but that does seem at least possible.
Possible, but unless he was selling crates of fine wines on the side. . .
 

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Interestingly, it seems like both sides have finished calling witnesses with closing arguments scheduled for tomorrow, and Garrett Richards was not among the players named who testified.
Likely this means Richards was a potential witness on one specific point that one side thought the other would bring in. When that point doesn't get brought in, no reason to call the witness, but, he's still on the list. Implies that whatever his role was in the saga, it was fairly minor, but, impossible to know anything for sure. (edit: it does likely mean he was a prosecution witness though, as only the defense can really 'surprise' in criminal trials)
 

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Likely this means Richards was a potential witness on one specific point that one side thought the other would bring in. When that point doesn't get brought in, no reason to call the witness, but, he's still on the list. Implies that whatever his role was in the saga, it was fairly minor, but, impossible to know anything for sure. (edit: it does likely mean he was a prosecution witness though, as only the defense can really 'surprise' in criminal trials)
Perhaps being kept in reserve in case some part of the defense case involved "nobody ever sent him money" that had to be rebutted.
 

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We have no way of knowing for sure what Richards would have said had he been called to testify. Perhaps he would have just backed up or supported Harvey's testimony. In any case, could a moderator change the title since Richards did not testify in the trial.