Giancarlo Stanton hit in jaw by pitch
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Holy shit. I don't think I want to see closeups of the aftermath. I can't imagine his smile survived even relatively intact. Additionally, while it's probably not the first thought to go through most people's heads, the possibility of a concussion is very real here.
This sucks.
This sucks.
The pitch was called a swing. Then, on the next pitch, he hits Reid Johnson, who was called out for swinging also. Benches empty. Marlin manager pissed off.
I'll be that guy.
I'm smashing the #1 team 8-2 to head into the finals. This is going to hurt my team.
Thanks for wrecking my team, Stanton. Clearly he didn't train with Patches O'Houlihan.
I'm smashing the #1 team 8-2 to head into the finals. This is going to hurt my team.
Thanks for wrecking my team, Stanton. Clearly he didn't train with Patches O'Houlihan.
Video up. It's tough to watch.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/94278650/marlins-slugger-giancarlo-stanton-carted-off-after-being-hit-in-the-face
Edit: Looks like it was right off the cheek bone, and not quite the jaw.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/94278650/marlins-slugger-giancarlo-stanton-carted-off-after-being-hit-in-the-face
Edit: Looks like it was right off the cheek bone, and not quite the jaw.
Snodgrass'Muff said:
Two things:
1. You can, I think, see his teeth fly out.
2. Am I the only one who thinks its an asshole move to start throwing the camera on his parents?
Zupcic Fan said:
Marlins announcers were openly rooting for benches to clear.
Edit: The Marlin's color guy was fantastic. "THIS IS A JOKE!"
"I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. I don't care if he meant it or not. You want to create a little something! Lets gets going! Thats what you gotta do! You can't let your big guy go down and not do anything, so thats what you gotta do!"
MLB network just showed about 6 or 7 batters getting hit tonight, most in the head or near it.
They worried about the catchers getting hurt in collisions , but something needs to be done about HBP, especially when pitchers are throwing a hell of a lot harder now than ever.
They worried about the catchers getting hurt in collisions , but something needs to be done about HBP, especially when pitchers are throwing a hell of a lot harder now than ever.
Weird, seemed like either he lost sight of the pitch or somehow he completely read it as being farther away from him as he made his swing.
hbk72777 said:
Get rid of the arm armour and don't let batters lean out into the strikezone. That'd do more for avoiding HBP than anything else. This one the ball just got away from Fiers and Stanton looked like he lost it, but most HBP are a result of guys crowding the plate and diving in as the ball is released.
The umpires are a joke in the game. They said that he fouled off the ball that hit him. Then when the replacement batter came in the first pitch was up and hit the guy in the hand causing the benches to clear. The umpires said that he didn't get hit but instead struck out. The best part....it is almost the same crew from the Ortiz/Price game, three of the four are the same.
Home Plate - Dan Bellino, First Base - Tom Woodring, Second Base - D.J. Reyburn, Third Base - Jeff Kellogg Red Sox/Rays May 30th
Home - Jeff Kellogg, First Base - D.J. Reyburn, Second Base - Will Little, Third Base - Dan Bellino Marlins/Brewers September 11th
Home Plate - Dan Bellino, First Base - Tom Woodring, Second Base - D.J. Reyburn, Third Base - Jeff Kellogg Red Sox/Rays May 30th
Home - Jeff Kellogg, First Base - D.J. Reyburn, Second Base - Will Little, Third Base - Dan Bellino Marlins/Brewers September 11th
They said he swung and was hit by the pitch in the process which is a strike. It was the right call in both instances.Tim Naehrings Girl said:
"For the first base ump to call and say he swung at that pitch while he's coughing up blood. What a joke." -@mredmond55
Mike Fiers @Fiers64 · 5m
@Giancarlo818 my thoughts and prayers are with you at this time. I feel horrible and hope for a speedy recovery.
@Giancarlo818 my thoughts and prayers are with you at this time. I feel horrible and hope for a speedy recovery.
A strike by definition is "a pitch that is struck at by the batter and is missed." It is purely a judgment made by the umpire as to whether the batter "struck at" the pitch. Breaking the wrists or the bat moving beyond the front of the plate or the batter's body, are factors that the umpire may use to make the judgment.
It is not automatically a strike when a batter holds the bat over the plate preparing to bunt and does not pull it back when the pitch goes by. The same judgment applies. Did the batter "strike at" the pitch?
It is not automatically a strike when a batter is ducking an inside pitch and he spins around and the bat crosses the plate. The umpire must judge if he was avoiding the pitch or striking at it.
It is not automatically a strike when a batter holds the bat over the plate preparing to bunt and does not pull it back when the pitch goes by. The same judgment applies. Did the batter "strike at" the pitch?
It is not automatically a strike when a batter is ducking an inside pitch and he spins around and the bat crosses the plate. The umpire must judge if he was avoiding the pitch or striking at it.
It doesn't matter if he holds up after it hits him. If you swing and the ball hits you it is a strike.Tim Naehrings Girl said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsIYfV6ADuQ
Start at 3:20 for slow-mo of Johnson's swing. He's clearly int he process of swinging when it hits him.
Stanton's there is probably a better case for him not swinging, but trying to get out of the way.
http://deadspin.com/chase-headley-takes-a-fastball-to-the-chin-1633833578
Chase Headley got hit in the chin shortly after
Chase Headley got hit in the chin shortly after
Madmartigan said:
This, this, a million times this. It doesn't restrict motion, it doesn't restrict visibility. Just takes some getting used to (like heels) and looks stupid (like shorts). Exactly the kind of thing that should be pushed by league mandate to plow over self-adoption obstacles.
And i'll reiterate a pitcher is going to get killed in the next five years if they don't look at lacrosse-style cages or something. Goddamn ball is just moving too damn fast these days.
I was watching the Marlins broadcast last night and there was a very different opinion. Obviously emotions were high, but they showed the play several times and felt the call was wrong.
JimBoSox9 said:
And i'll reiterate a pitcher is going to get killed in the next five years if they don't look at lacrosse-style cages or something. Goddamn ball is just moving too damn fast these days.
9/10ths of a percent faster? Sports are risky. The more rules and regulations added, the further away from true baseball the MLB gets.
threecy said:
"True baseball" once meant that the batters didn't wear helmets, that the gloves were big and floppy, and that blacks weren't allowed on the field.
There's no such thing as "true baseball." The game evolves organically over time.
From the Totally Unsurprising Diagnosis department...
https://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/510292539190943744
Joe Frisaro @JoeFrisaro · 7h
#Marlins Giancarlo Stanton suffered a facial laceration requiring stitches, multiple facial fractures and dental damage
https://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro/status/510292539190943744
Joe Frisaro @JoeFrisaro · 7h
#Marlins Giancarlo Stanton suffered a facial laceration requiring stitches, multiple facial fractures and dental damage
Stanton losing teeth is good news, IMO.
I really could not tell last night, if the orbital bone takes a direct, all bets are off on eyesight not being affected. Damn though, I could only watch that once.
I really could not tell last night, if the orbital bone takes a direct, all bets are off on eyesight not being affected. Damn though, I could only watch that once.
I don't see what race has to do with this topic.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Yet organic, when used in the context of food, means no chemicals/artificial elements.
One could probably cover players with top to bottom protection, put a protective cage in front of pitchers, one near the front of the batters box to stop errant pitches, and forbid any sort of positioning that might result in physical contact. Heck, why not have speed limits on pitching velocity to make it safer for hitters and reduce recent pitching dominance with remote video replay appeals.
It's sad to have a horrendous beaning and hopefully it won't be anything remotely as bad as Tony C or even Dewey.
threecy said:
Baseball is a sport, it was created by men, it isn't some natural law. If there's something as small as a jaw guard in the helmet that could prevent terrible injuries like this from happening, why wouldn't they implement it? In what way does that tarnish "true baseball"? The ridiculous examples you gave would all directly impact the way the game is played, it has nothing to do with this situation.
threecy said:
Over six years? Calibrate yo axes, son. That's a serious delta, and it almost has to be a driver of the swing-harder movement, which in turn jacks up batted ball velocity for anything that isn't a primo fastball. Not of this is complicated.
threecy said:
So you're basically saying that the possibility of catastrophic injury is what makes the game exciting for you. Or did I misunderstand?
Why wouldn't teams and player want to wear better safety equipment? With the amount of money players make - teams should want to do everything possible to protect their investment. The same is true for players. That ball may have cost Stanton 200 million dollars or more. An improved helmet for batters along with facial protection for hitters seem like no brainers. Cost - benefit and all that.
Brianish said:
Given that history, I really did laugh out loud at the absurdity of James Earl Jones saying baseball "reminds us of all that once was good, and it could be again" in Field of Dreams.