GOATs vs Indy in Frankfurt

[Eddie Jurak]

1. Mac, who has learned nothing from his struggles. He's being sacked, so he heaves the ball with both hands and is lucky it is not picked. Surprisingly gifted a late game chance to win, Mac has a receiver open in the end zone but he short-arms the throw which does not reach the end zone before being picked.

2. Special teams. BB's asinine "let's put nobody back to return the punt" play. Ryland key missed FG.

3. 3rd down pass protection.

(Yes I posted this at the 2 minute warning. Happy to eat all the crow if Zappe brings them back).

Edit: Zappe did a great Mac impression on the game ending pick.

 

[jablo1312]

defense gave them every shot, even the last fg was mainly the result of special teams. bummer. Offense obv isn't professional caliber.

 

[j44thor]

No Goats, we are officially Pray for Maye

You could leave the entire team save a couple defensive players and I guess Pop & Rham in Germany, including all the coaches.
Blow this up and start fresh.

 

[cshea]

At the very least can we fire Cam fucking Achord?

 

[8slim]

Mac
Special teams
OL

 

[Rico Guapo]

Mac
BB the GM
Special Teams

 

[IdiotKicker]

Anything related to passing. Run game was great but the passing game killed the offense. You can’t score 6 points in an NFL game.

 

[BigJimEd]

Mac, Mac and offensive Jones.

With mediocre QB play, the Pats win by multiple scores

Good news is they are still on track for top 5 pick

 

[johnmd20]

The GM.
Mac.
The Receivers.

Can't complain about the defense. They are working their dicks off.

 

[Traut]

Defense held the Colts to 10 points. Which is good enough to win most all NFL games.

Except those started by Mac Jones and ended with Bailey Zappe.

 

[BaseballJones]

Not sure why I decided to rewatch that last Mac interception, but he absolutely has Gesicki open on that play. He just threw it off his back foot and left it about 5 yards (!) short of where it needed to be.

Just a horrendous throw at the worst possible time.

So frustrating to see the team have a huge day running the ball (36-167, 4.6 y/a) and the D play great only to have Mac completely cough it up.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Mac
Mac
Mac
Mac
Mac

A missed FG or a screwup on special teams isn't enough to be mentioned. Mac is the reason they lost this game, Mac is the reason they are 2-8, and Mac is the reason they will be tearing down the entire organization in the offseason and rebuild from the cinders.

It's all Mac.

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Gotta love two pre-snap penalties from the corpse of JuJu. What an utter bust.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

Other than the obvious, honorable mention to Ryland. In the context of the game that was a big miss.

 

[j44thor]

Not sure why I decided to rewatch that last Mac interception, but he absolutely has Gesicki open on that play. He just threw it off his back foot and left it about 5 yards (!) short of where it needed to be.

Just a horrendous throw at the worst possible time.

So frustrating to see the team have a huge day running the ball (36-167, 4.6 y/a) and the D play great only to have Mac completely cough it up.

I thought the pass to Rham last week was one of the worst I've seen in years and Mac was like "hold my stein". Gesicki is wide open on the play and the pressure is minimal on Mac, could have easily stepped into the throw absolutely no reason to throw that off the back foot.

 

[NomarsFool]

Gotta love two pre-snap penalties from the corpse of JuJu. What an utter bust.

It's amazing how much of a non-factor he is (positively, that is).

 

[BaseballJones]

Other than the obvious, honorable mention to Ryland. In the context of the game that was a big miss.

Absolutely. I think he's going to be just fine as an NFL kicker and he's on a rookie contract so that's fine, whatever. But in this game, it was a huge miss. He makes that and then the Pats just need a FG in either of their last two possessions to win the game. But nope.

 

[Seels]

Mac's footwork is among the worst I've seen in any QB. He always throws it off his back foot. He never plants. I do not understand this.That's bad even if you're a good quarterback.

 

[BaseballJones]

I thought the pass to Rham last week was one of the worst I've seen in years and Mac was like "hold my stein". Gesicki is wide open on the play and the pressure is minimal on Mac, could have easily stepped into the throw absolutely no reason to throw that off the back foot.

Yeah this one was one of the worst I've ever seen, especially considering the circumstances.

 

[Toe Nash]

I thought the pass to Rham last week was one of the worst I've seen in years and Mac was like "hold my stein". Gesicki is wide open on the play and the pressure is minimal on Mac, could have easily stepped into the throw absolutely no reason to throw that off the back foot.

He saw a rusher getting free right in his face as he started to throw. The rusher wasn't going to get there, but that's what screwed him up.

It's inexcusable and I don't understand how this can still be happening.

 

[heavyde050]

Mac is like the first ten on this list. But the next two would be the passing block on third down and then special teams. Missed a really easy FG and the punt return was something else.

 

[8slim]

Other than the obvious, honorable mention to Ryland. In the context of the game that was a big miss.

I’ll never understand why we spent a 4th rounder on him.

 

[j44thor]

He saw a rusher getting free right in his face as he started to throw. The rusher wasn't going to get there, but that's what screwed him up.

It's inexcusable and I don't understand how this can still be happening.

He saw ghosts is what he saw. There was a rusher 2-3yds away but being somewhat blocked up, I agree that is what he thought he saw but it simply wasn't reality. I've watched the replay at least a dozen times now. That is as clean a pocket as a QB should expect in the redzone. At worst you hang in the pocket and don't step into the throw, throwing off the back foot is inexcusable there. The ball should be 5yds deep in the endzone and the Sons of MIke Vanderjagt are wondering how they blew coverage so badly on Mike Gesicki, Gesicki was somehow 5yds passed the closest defender. That was the second most amazing part of that play.

 

[E5 Yaz]

@michaelFhurley
Mac Jones was asked why the Patriots didn't go with a Hail Mary before halftime. He seemed to disagree with the call to throw short/quick. "No clue. I mean. There's 2 seconds left and it was ... we needed 60 yards. So I don't know."

 

[8slim]

@michaelFhurley
Mac Jones was asked why the Patriots didn't go with a Hail Mary before halftime. He seemed to disagree with the call to throw short/quick. "No clue. I mean. There's 2 seconds left and it was ... we needed 60 yards. So I don't know."

You know that Duke QB whose mom texts him “you suck” before every game?

She should text Mac instead.

 

[Silverdude2167]

You know that Duke QB whose mom texts him “you suck” before every game?

She should text Mac instead.

Why do you want Mac crying before the game?

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

@michaelFhurley
Mac Jones was asked why the Patriots didn't go with a Hail Mary before halftime. He seemed to disagree with the call to throw short/quick. "No clue. I mean. There's 2 seconds left and it was ... we needed 60 yards. So I don't know."

Shitty teammate and a negative leader.

His roster spot should be taken away.

 

[cornwalls@6]

I’ve honestly thought him being a jerk, or a locker room problem has been something of an overblown narrative. But Jesus, shut the fuck up with your second guessing play calls. You suck, can’t consistently make professional throws, and are the biggest weakness on the offense. Just shut up.

 

[Traut]

Yeah this one was one of the worst I've ever seen, especially considering the circumstances.

That one, the one Zappe threw into a Colts team meeting, and the one Mac was 5 yards short on that got picked.

3 of the worst throws that I’ve seen all in one game.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I’ve honestly thought him being a jerk, or a locker room problem has been something of an overblown narrative. But Jesus, shut the fuck your with second guessing play calls. You suck, can’t consistently make professional throws, and are the biggest weakness on the offense. Just shut up.

It's shocking how much of a frontrunner he is. He's never faced any adversity until the NFL and once he gets it he completely implodes. He's an awful teammate. Gives off snotty high school tennis player vibes.

 

[Justthetippett]

@michaelFhurley
Mac Jones was asked why the Patriots didn't go with a Hail Mary before halftime. He seemed to disagree with the call to throw short/quick. "No clue. I mean. There's 2 seconds left and it was ... we needed 60 yards. So I don't know."

That throw artificially bumped his stats and made his shit game look less so. Also, I'd bet my house he wouldn't have been able to get a throw to the end zone.

 

[8slim]

Why do you want Mac crying before the game?

Might as well get it out of the way early

 

[8slim]

I’ve honestly thought him being a jerk, or a locker room problem has been something of an overblown narrative. But Jesus, shut the fuck up with your second guessing play calls. You suck, can’t consistently make professional throws, and are the biggest weakness on the offense. Just shut up.

Agree 100%. I’ve thought the personal hate folks have tossed his way has been over the top. I think I’ve been wrong. He’s an ass.

 

[luckiestman]

It's shocking how much of a frontrunner he is. He's never faced any adversity until the NFL and once he gets it he completely implodes. He's an awful teammate. Gives off snotty high school tennis player vibes.

Some day we’re going to need a separate thread on what this HS tennis player did to you.

 

[54thMA]

Can't complain about the defense. They are working their dicks off.

Yes they are and down their two best players on that side of the ball too.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Some day we’re going to need a separate thread on what this HS tennis player did to you.

Right after we get the Prom Night Horror Stories thread

 

[luckiestman]

Right after we get the Prom Night Horror Stories thread

Same story

 

[Al Zarilla]

As if there aren't enough votes for him already, MAC JONES.

 

[Groovenstein]

Whenever I see “BB the GM” in a game goat thread I think of those people who want to make everything about veterans

 

[JOBU]

in addition to what’s been said already… lack of a pass rush. Minshew had all fucking day back there. But fuck Mac Jones

 

[Ale Xander]

The entire offense except Andrews, Pop, Rham and Zeke
Special teams
Pass rush
Coaching

but mostly Mac

 

[jbupstate]

Couple possible explanations.

1. Mac and Zappe are in the pocket of gangsters.
2. Players want to be released immediately.

I love the Patriots. But this game might have broken me.

 

[Average Game James]

I’ve been of the opinion Mac is a problem, but not the only problem, but not really the case here as he was flat out awful. Goats number one, two, and three go to Mac today with dishonorable mentions for JuJu and Ryland.

 

[Hendu and Spike]

It's shocking how much of a frontrunner he is. He's never faced any adversity until the NFL and once he gets it he completely implodes. He's an awful teammate. Gives off snotty high school tennis player vibes.

Snotty child model, high school tennis player vibes.

 

[rodderick]

It's shocking how much of a frontrunner he is. He's never faced any adversity until the NFL and once he gets it he completely implodes. He's an awful teammate. Gives off snotty high school tennis player vibes.

He was a snotty high school tennis player, actually!

 

[Remagellan]

Couple possible explanations.

1. Mac and Zappe are in the pocket of gangsters.
2. Players want to be released immediately.

I love the Patriots. But this game might have broken me.

I watched part of Eight Men Out the other day, and no Black Sox player made as bad a throw as Mac did on his final throw of the day. When he short-armed what looked like an easy game-winning TD throw, it looked exactly like it would if he were trying to throw the game.

Zappe was bad, but that's what happens when a guy with no reps gets thrown into a game with that little time left and no TOs.

 

[snowmanny]

Other than the obvious, honorable mention to Ryland. In the context of the game that was a big miss.

And gave up a damaging kickoff return.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Some day we’re going to need a separate thread on what this HS tennis player did to you.

All of the dickbags I went to high school with were tennis players.

 

[54thMA]

Couple possible explanations.

1. Mac and Zappe are in the pocket of gangsters.

I love the Patriots. But this game might have broken me.

Yeah, that INT on the goal line with two guys wide open in the back of the end zone looked very Paul Crewe like to me.

That's the only explanation I can come up with.

 

[Old Fart Tree]

Six points! Six!!!

I’m glad they lost, I just wish they weren’t so fucking boring.