How about a Laker Elimination Day.

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Hey as you probably know, on the Sox forum there is a post at the end of the year called Yankee Elimination Day, when applicable. Always funny and of course total rubbing it in to the wound, LOL. Just a thought we should have one on here for the Lakers who we loathe so much. Just a thought? I haven't seen one on here, I checked but if it's on a back page my mistake.
 
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Lets wait until they’re eliminated
Could happen as soon as tomorrow, if the Lakers fall in Phoenix while the Spurs knock off the Nuggets.

But yes, let’s keep the champagne on ice till the actual day. In the meantime, here’s a magic number:

 

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The cherry on the sundae is the fact that they don't have their 1st round pick this year. And next year New Orleans has a pick swap (though they may get a decent pick either way there). And in 2024, the Pels can either take the pick or defer it to 2025. The trade was worth it because they won a title (albeit a COVID bubble one), but the bill is coming due much earlier than expected.
 
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I know Bron is one of if not the greatest of all time.....but it does my heart good thinking of him playing golf, producing shitty movies, yelling at Bronnie to improve and calling the Laker front office demanding changes.
 

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Really is too bad that these guys got a cheap bubble title but, whatever, I’m happy that this is probably it for a while for these guys.
 

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Really is too bad that these guys got a cheap bubble title but, whatever, I’m happy that this is probably it for a while for these guys.
Only got that due to the four month layoff where Davis somehow didn't trip over the furniture in his house.

That said, once Westbrook and James contracts go away they will have plenty of space and pics in 2027 onward so it may only be a brief respite.
 

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Only got that due to the four month layoff where Davis somehow didn't trip over the furniture in his house.

That said, once Westbrook and James contracts go away they will have plenty of space and pics in 2027 onward so it may only be a brief respite.
Lakers always pull stars out of their asses so, yeah, they’ll be back but hard to see another title coming in the near-term. The Jay’s need to bring one home in that time before LA reloads.
 

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Fun wrinkle for the next week is that LeBron probably wants to sit to distance himself form this mess and/or provide an injury excuse, but he currently has a razor thin lead over Embiid for the scoring title (if he had 4 fewer points he would fall behind) and he needs to play 2 more games to qualify.
 

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Lakers always pull stars out of their asses so, yeah, they’ll be back but hard to see another title coming in the near-term. The Jay’s need to bring one home in that time before LA reloads.
It's definitely going to be harder with no Ingram or Ball to offer. They've got nothing in terms of any kind of decent young players (THT is meh at best).
 

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It's definitely going to be harder with no Ingram or Ball to offer. They've got nothing in terms of any kind of decent young players (THT is meh at best).
Yup. Forgot the Pelicans own the unprotected pick this year. I’ll be rooting for them to win the lotto if Lakers miss playoffs. Spurs need to finish this off.
 

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Yup. Forgot the Pelicans own the unprotected pick this year. I’ll be rooting for them to win the lotto if Lakers miss playoffs. Spurs need to finish this off.
If the pick falls into the top-10, New Orleans keeps it. Anything higher than 10, it goes to Memphis. If it is top-ten, Memphis gets New Orleans 2nd rounder this year. ( I believe this is how it would shake out).
 

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Lakers always pull stars out of their asses so, yeah, they’ll be back but hard to see another title coming in the near-term. The Jay’s need to bring one home in that time before LA reloads.
The Westbrook contract will indeed hamper the Lakers next season. Of course, LeBron may force a trade, but otherwise they will be cap hell next year as well.

They will be completely clear in time for the 2023-24 season. FWIW, Jaylen Brown becomes UFA in summer of 2024.
 

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If the pick falls into the top-10, New Orleans keeps it. Anything higher than 10, it goes to Memphis. If it is top-ten, Memphis gets New Orleans 2nd rounder this year. ( I believe this is how it would shake out).
Seems pretty likely that if Lakers miss playoffs, that it’ll be a top 10 pick. They currently have the 8th worst record so would take a lot of unlikely scenarios for Memphis to get that pick, right? In any event, as long as it goes to someone other than LA, I’m good. Don’t want them having any young talent.
 

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Seems pretty likely that if Lakers miss playoffs, that it’ll be a top 10 pick. They currently have the 8th worst record so would take a lot of unlikely scenarios for Memphis to get that pick, right? In any event, as long as it goes to someone other than LA, I’m good. Don’t want them having any young talent.
Totally agreed.
 

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Only got that due to the four month layoff where Davis somehow didn't trip over the furniture in his house.

That said, once Westbrook and James contracts go away they will have plenty of space and pics in 2027 onward so it may only be a brief respite.
Low key one of my favorite SoSH posts of all time.
 

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My favorite recurring joke this season has been to deadpan "well, if Kendrick Nunn were healthy . . ." to my delusional Laker fan friends.
 

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The cherry on the sundae is the fact that they don't have their 1st round pick this year. And next year New Orleans has a pick swap (though they may get a decent pick either way there). And in 2024, the Pels can either take the pick or defer it to 2025. The trade was worth it because they won a title (albeit a COVID bubble one), but the bill is coming due much earlier than expected.
The Pelicans pick next year might just be in the 16-18 range. If there’s one thing they’ve learned this year, they can assemble a decent team without Zion, so they may just be open to moving him for a king’s ransom and adding to the team they have. And there’s a lot of value in having Williamson on his rookie deal, so they probably get it from someone.
 

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The Westbrook contract will indeed hamper the Lakers next season. Of course, LeBron may force a trade, but otherwise they will be cap hell next year as well.

They will be completely clear in time for the 2023-24 season. FWIW, Jaylen Brown becomes UFA in summer of 2024.
I love Jaylen but he is not the franchise player that is going to lead the next Laker dynasty.
 

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I love Jaylen but he is not the franchise player that is going to lead the next Laker dynasty.
Beyond that the difference between what LA can pay him and what Boston can is pretty enormous thanks to the rookie extension he signed.
 

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The 2023 FA class is not likely to have a superstar outside of Jokic (who I assume stays in Denver), but LA could essentially undo the Westbrook trade. A lot of can happen between now and then in terms of trades/extensions but the Lakers could have several viable targets to add to Street Clothes and a re-signed Lebron: Jerami Grant, Malik Beasley, Gary Trent, Bogdan, Dillon Brooks, FVV, Barnes.
Unless of course, they screw up their cap by taking on long term bad money to get rid of Westbrook - but swapping him for Klutch client Wall seems like an easy path to avoid doing so.
 

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Lakers front office is just mind-blowingly incompetent and if LeBron didn't really want to live in LA, they would be looking at almost a decade of just complete shit since Kobe tore his achilles.
 

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Lakers front office is just mind-blowingly incompetent and if LeBron didn't really want to live in LA, they would be looking at almost a decade of just complete shit since Kobe tore his achilles.
Yup. But that’s the Lakers. When things look to be most dire, some BS always happens, like Shaq signing because Orlando couldn’t close the deal, Kobe not wanting Charlotte, Chris Wallace sending Pau there, LeBron deciding to try acting, Klutch handing them the AD piece they desperately needed, etc.
 

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Lakers front office is just mind-blowingly incompetent and if LeBron didn't really want to live in LA, they would be looking at almost a decade of just complete shit since Kobe tore his achilles.
The mickey mouse summer league title actually makes this better. Let me tell you why...

Lakers fans always shit on the spurs for an asterisk title. However, they now have a "non normal" title in their vault they have to defend so it puts them in a weird spot. But the absolute best part that is....real lakers fans, like actual diehards, HATE lebron. So defending that title puts them in the position of sticking up for him.

I love it so much.
 

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The 2023 FA class is not likely to have a superstar outside of Jokic (who I assume stays in Denver), but LA could essentially undo the Westbrook trade. A lot of can happen between now and then in terms of trades/extensions but the Lakers could have several viable targets to add to Street Clothes and a re-signed Lebron: Jerami Grant, Malik Beasley, Gary Trent, Bogdan, Dillon Brooks, FVV, Barnes.
Unless of course, they screw up their cap by taking on long term bad money to get rid of Westbrook - but swapping him for Klutch client Wall seems like an easy path to avoid doing so.
I'm not sure how swapping Westbrook for Wall does anything, as both contracts expire 2023. And what assets would the Lakers be able to provide the Wizards for taking on Westbrook?
 

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Jerry West and Dr. Buss aren’t walking through that door. That’s why I’m skeptical this current incarnation of the Lakers franchise is just going to wave a magic wand and be raising banners again in two years. Jeanie Buss surrounds herself with friends who appear to have far too much influence (Linda Rambis).
 

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It got lost yesterday but Kareem shitting on Lebron while he showed up to present an award was a nice chef's kiss as well.
 

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I'm not sure how swapping Westbrook for Wall does anything, as both contracts expire 2023. And what assets would the Lakers be able to provide the Wizards for taking on Westbrook?
I am going to assume this is really dry humor.

Given that Houston paid Wall stay home this year and will do so again next season if they can't reach a buy out (I assume they will), they will undoubtedly ask for a first, but I think a second gets it done. Hard to imagine a bidding war for the privilege of paying Wall 47M.

The Lakers do the deal because they know Westbrook doesn't fit. Wall can't be much worse and he's a Klutch guy, whom I would assume would like to see him play somewhere he will have an opportunity to rebuild some value.
 

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I am going to assume this is really dry humor.

Given that Houston paid Wall stay home this year and will do so again next season if they can't reach a buy out (I assume they will), they will undoubtedly ask for a first, but I think a second gets it done. Hard to imagine a bidding war for the privilege of paying Wall 47M.

The Lakers do the deal because they know Westbrook doesn't fit. Wall can't be much worse and he's a Klutch guy, whom I would assume would like to see him play somewhere he will have an opportunity to rebuild some value.
Given that Houston doesn't want either Westbrook or Wall, I'm not sure why they'd take a future second for the privilege of buying out one rather than the other. Now far future firsts they'd consider. But it will take more than one.
 

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I’m not sure why, it’s completely reinvigorated the late season games as teams that previously tanked for all they were worth now play to win down to the wire in hopes of getting a playoff game.
 

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I’m not sure why, it’s completely reinvigorated the late season games as teams that previously tanked for all they were worth now play to win down to the wire in hopes of getting a playoff game.
Not to mention lowering the value of 7/8 seeds, forcing teams to play hard to stay out of those.
 

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Given that Houston doesn't want either Westbrook or Wall, I'm not sure why they'd take a future second for the privilege of buying out one rather than the other. Now far future firsts they'd consider. But it will take more than one.
I mean, if you are buying someone out, why wouldn't you take whatever you could get? I could see maybe just shrugging off a future second, maybe...but I think there is zero chance they would balk at a first. And I can't see any scenario where they hold out for more than one
 

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I mean, if you are buying someone out, why wouldn't you take whatever you could get? I could see maybe just shrugging off a future second, maybe...but I think there is zero chance they would balk at a first. And I can't see any scenario where they hold out for more than one
The problem is that the Lakers don't have a first rounder in 2022, are subject to a swap w/ NO in 2023, and the Pels have rights to one of the 2024/25 first rounders. So there is no clean pick to trade until 2026. It may be that the Rockets end up not caring that much about how much the swaps cap the value of the pick, but it could be a complicating factor.