- Oct 1, 2015
Last 4 seasons: 14-2, 11-5, 8-9, 10-7, playoffs 3 of the 4 years. I mean, that's certainly success. It's not what Pats fans have become accustomed to as success, but it's definitely success.The Ravens under Lamar have won 1 more playoff game in 5 years as the Pats have won with Mac in 2 years. So no, that's not how I'm really defining success. We were talking about improving receivers. Lamar is a weird one (as is Fields) because IMO, he's a running back that sometimes throws. That's his value. In Lamar's case, his career passing numbers over 5 seasons is ok to pretty good, but how much of that is because teams are so focused on not letting him beat them on the ground making it much easier for him to throw? As his injuries mount, and his running slows down, I'm not sold on him as a QB down the road.
But... that's why I asked you the question, and you answered it. No, you would not define this as success.
For sure. But...they've certainly been successful with not many high end passing targets.Tannehill has had 2 seasons, IMO, that were markedly better than Mac Jones. They also happen to be 2 seasons in which he had AJ Brown and the best running back in the NFL. Over those 26 starts, he put up a 110.6 rating. They still have those guys, the team goes 12-5, but Tannehill falls off a cliff and goes for an 88.9 rating, and they get ousted in the playoffs as he tosses 1td and 3 picks in a 19-16 loss to Cincy. Vrabel does not get enough credit, IMO. If that team had a QB....