Interesting, i feel the opposite. I wish we could bring back post play. A major reason it disappeared is that guys got so trained to try and draw charges down low, especially on size mismatches, which is a bastardization of trying to play actual defense.
Or, /Anyone ever guarding Luka
I agree about wanting more post play. But I don't think it disappeared because of guys' propensity for drawing fouls. It disappeared because the game moved towards pace and space and the 3 pointer. And, anyway, at its best, it was always about footwork, fakes, height, the turnaround jumper, etc– not about slowly and systematically banging into a guy over and over again while he runs the calculus in his head, Should I fall over now in order to draw attention to the contact? while the ref simultaneously runs the calculus in his head about When am I obligated to whistle the defensive player for a foul here?
That's been an issue for a long, long time. I feel like the college approach---which focuses on who initiated the contact--is a much more practical way to adjudicate these kinds of interactions. That would help on both post play (to address some of the bully-ball approaches) and charge/block. It's not a cure-all but it's a more useful way to think about what's allowed and not and changes the incentives --- guys like Butler and Giannis tody gamble that if they crash into a defender it will be judged to be in restricted area, defender won't be set, the defender's arm will make contact first, etc. What we ought to be doing is saying "if you run into someone you are presumptively getting the foul" absent something else occurring.
Shaquille O'Neal's entire career was a lie.
Isn't this, in essence, the change they made to in-the-act-of-shooting fouls a couple years back, where a shooter can't simply initiate contact with a defender simply because a defender is in the air?
That was a very specific situation, I believe, around a defender who elevates. What I'd propose is that broadening the change to also cover (for example) Giannis trucking a defender who is slightly sliding to side to deny a lane to hoop, or a Shaq-like post player banging his large posterior into a set defender to create space and contact.
My point being that there is very recent precedent for a rule change to correct an overt trend where the offense takes advantage of the literal interpretation of the rules to draw a foul on what is, in essence, good defense.
I wonder if NBA defenders would live with a more restrictive charge rule if offensive players were prohibited from putting their shoulder into a defender to knock them back.
I wouldn't read too much into that. Ime's agent has been working hard on Woj, every job that has opened Woj has tweeted he was a serious candidate. I don't think he's even gotten an interview (BKN, HOU, etc.)
Meh. They should hire Atkinson he's a better coach.
I would be shocked if Ime never coaches again. You're correct that he doesn't really have a "track record" (TM) but he does have a "reputation" (TM) that's too tantalizing for every owner/GM to pass up.
I'd take the other side of that.
At some point, pretty much all of the greatest coaches (and lesser ones than they) eventually wear out their welcome with the players. Guys have a guy chirping in their ear and riding their ass for a few years and it turns to white noise over time. There are exceptions.
That will fade. Maybe DAL to be fair would take him because they are run by trash people, but most owners are willing to look past legal exposure only so much and not for a guy with basically 50 games of success total.
Maybe, but they had to hire an external law firm that found they should get rid of him, that screams sexual harassment issues to me, and hiring him opens you up to a lot of issues if he's accused again, and one thing sports owners really really don't like is people digging into discovery and testimony on their front offices. I also think we've seen that problems AT WORK are very different from beating your wife 10 years ago, or settling a rape lawsuit 25 years ago.
We'll never know exactly what happened, but it's clear that it was not just (or at all?) an affair with the wrong person, it's pretty clear from both sides leaks that at minimum that an employee filed a harrassment complaint against him (possibly after she broke off a consensual relationship and he refused to respect that).
Just passing on the rumors. My assumption is that if Harden is signing there, the plan is to move some of the picks and young guys for another star type player.
Agreed, but other than FVV and Siakam is it pretty new players there. I guess if he loses those two it goes a long way to losing the rest...
the talent on this years Celtic team is much greater than last season, and they were 2 games & a healthy Tatum from winning it all
I am not an Ime defender, to be clear, and would also note that neither of us has any idea what happened, Thus, I personaly think better to acknowledge it's just not clear. YMMV.
They basically telegraphed that they were ok with moving Anunoby. Could be that he was the Roger Clemens to Nurse's Butch Hobson in this scenario, who knows.
No brainer hire. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were announced in next 24-48 hours.
A couple of things on the above.
All agreed, and that is why I'd guess if they say anything it would be something that was negotiated with Ime's team---which obviates the liability since they've agreed to it (and presumably would only do so with a signed waiver from Ime in exchange for the specifically agreed statement/information)A couple of things on the above.
Hiring an outside law firm when there's a charge of misconduct against a senior corporate official is pretty much the base case in large, well-run organizations. It happens more frequently than most people know but it stays in-house. The large law firm would have the resources to interview folks that the Cs wouldn't have internally and the report is also privileged information.
However, just because the law firm did an investigation and wrote a report doesn't mean that any of the stuff in the report is proven. Because of that, I would be shocked if the Cs said anything to anyone about what they might or might not have discovered during the investigation. If the Cs did say something to another employer and it turns out to be false, then the Cs are opened to liability. I don't know an attorney who wouldn't tell the Cs not to say anything if asked.
Maybe NBA owners are so risk-adverse to things we think Ime may have done or maybe they've looked into Ime independently and found stuff that is disqualifying but as it only takes one owner who thinks Ime is a "winner" (TM) and thinks he can manage Ime to hire him. As such, I'll put my internet bragging rights on the side of if Ime gets a job, and if he never does, I hope everyone forgets this post (or at least the predictive part of it).
If Nurse is actually waiting to see where Harden’s corpse falls, he has even less judgement than I thought.
Harden has won at every stop. I think he only has one year of being on a .500 team
Kind of easier to do that when you completely quit on the losing teams that you're supposedly "leading."
Yeah, the Sixers' team-wide obsession with nutshots is definitely eccentric, but doesn't seem suspension-worthy.
https://hoopswire.com/rockets-hiring-ime-udoka-as-coach/
Worth noting that was retracted/contradicted and was a particularly nasty bit of Stephen A Smith grossness. He was not suspended for a consensual relationship All indications are he was suspended for sexual harassment
He could still have broken team policy, been justifiably suspended, and had a consensual relationship. They aren't mutually exclusive.
nothing better than having a CAA agent if you are a hoops coach or media member
