Injuries
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Ridley's knee wasn't planted and buckled. Only hope is it's more of an RG3 type injury and 6-8 weeks
I had the same thought. The skill set is different with White. But I also see even more RB by committee with Bolden in the mix.Stitch01 said:
If Mayo is done for the year, you have to wonder whether he has played his last down as a Patriot. We save $4M+ against the cap by cutting him next season (even if we have to eat about $6M) and it'll be tough to justify that cap number for an LB who has played 12 games total the previous two seasons and getting a little long in the tooth. I'd expect the team to ask him to restructure as a first option but who knows what happens from there.
Ed Hillel said:
I thought the same thing. It's tough to come by money as a RB these days. Brutal to tear an ACL in a contract year.
Yeah, I mentioned this in the game thread. I think he had already lost a step, and now he presumably has a devastating knee injury. It may come down to him and Vince, since I think BB will want to keep one of the two for their captainocity.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Could be an ugly end if they ask him to re-structure, too.
Mayo is either a quad tendon or patellar tendon, I think - either one is season-ending.
There's a glimmer of hope that it could be just the MCL for Ridley (4-8 weeks) but most likely it's ACL/MCL based on what I saw
There's a glimmer of hope that it could be just the MCL for Ridley (4-8 weeks) but most likely it's ACL/MCL based on what I saw
The sideline ACL test is fairly definitive for full tears (if the test says yes the chance of false positive is low). If he was looking distraught the test was likely positive. And that means the ACL is almost certainly torn. Crap.soxhop411 said:
Edit: Lachman test
Yeah, we almost always know the ACL diagnosis already - the MRI is confirmation and assessment of other injuries - meniscus, MCL, etccrystalline said:
Looks like we'll need an updated RB thread. Ugh.
This team just lost their best early down, powerful, short yardage, Red Zone runner. That really sucks. Hopefully one of the yungins (James White?) has a pair of Big Boy pants lying around.
This team just lost their best early down, powerful, short yardage, Red Zone runner. That really sucks. Hopefully one of the yungins (James White?) has a pair of Big Boy pants lying around.
He was waived with injury settlement. I'm not sure they can re-sign him per the rules.Harry Hooper said:
I feel for Ridley. It's his contract year and he has been very productive and great with his ball security this year.
I wonder how the emergence of Jamie Collins mitigates the Mayo loss as compared to last year. When Mayo went down in Week 6, the only option was Hightower – who admittedly took a pretty big step back having to wear the mic. With Collins able to pick up the slack today, I wonder whether the team can endure long-term tho obviously they will need Hightower back ASAP.
What are we looking at; Hightower-Collins-Skinner? Davis as the 4th? Does DH get the mic based upon experience and allows them to use JC more varied roles given his athleticism. Is White higher than Davis or Skinner? I'm basing this solely on what appeared to be Skinner's usage today. I think given the tenuousness of our D front 7, Mayo is a bigger hit than Ridley.
at the rate we're going, it's going to be Chandler Ninkovich Wilson in the playoffs.McBride11 said:
McBride11 said:
Remember that the Patriots are playing in their "sub" package pretty frequently, so I think a majority of the snaps will go to Collins & Hightower, and it will be rare for the 3rd LB to play 50+% of the snaps.
For example, against the Bengals Skinner only had 13 snaps by Reiss' count, while Kyle Arrington had 45.
Obviously that will be dictated by the offense they're playing against, but after the Jest there are a lot of passing teams on the slate:
vs. CHI
vs. DEN
@ IND
vs. DET
They shift Jones, Hightower and Collins around so much, it will be tough to pin down. We can pull from the Vikings game when Collins was out in which they went with Skinner (weak) - Mayo - Hightower (strong) in their 4-3 fronts (with Jones and Ninkovich as the defensive ends). Presumably, they would replace Mayo with Collins. However, Skinner seems to lack the necessary speed of a weak side linebacker so maybe they swap Collins and Skinner.McBride11 said:
And then in their 3-4 fronts, they used both Jones - Skinner - Mayo - Ninkovich and Hightower - Skinner - Mayo - Ninkovich (with Chandler playing end). Replace Mayo with Collins and that may give us an idea. Hightower can also kick inside in place of Skinner in the first front.
Post Mayo last year, Collins and Hightower were their primary linebackers in their primary sub package defense (4-2-5).
Hey, maybe Browner will convert to a hybrid safety-linebacker-corner!
Jeff Howe tweeted he can't be signed untilSuper Nomario said:
week 9 due to his injury settlement.
jsinger121 said:
The fact that he's been signed to another team's practice squad doesn't wash the slate clean?
With all due call outs to our own DRS, who mentioned this earlier...in ref to Victor Cruz
@ProFootballDoc (David Chao, MD)
When I was in @NFL, contributed cases to study by @Broncos docs that showed players usually recover next season after patella tendon tear.
Assuming we learn that is what Mayo has...mayhaps all is not lost. Tough rehab though. Tough night in football all around...
@ProFootballDoc (David Chao, MD)
When I was in @NFL, contributed cases to study by @Broncos docs that showed players usually recover next season after patella tendon tear.
Assuming we learn that is what Mayo has...mayhaps all is not lost. Tough rehab though. Tough night in football all around...
Yep, am I crazy or is this Ridley injury more damaging than Mayo's? Both at an area of minimal depth but I suspect Ridley's loss will hurt more. Still amazes me that some had him as a cut preseason...even if on just one of Reiss' mocks, but still...
Tony C said:
I'm with you. Bolden looked far from dynamic, and Vereen won't be able to handle running 15 times per game between the tackles.
I like Ridley but disagree pretty strongly.. Ridley plays a less important position (I don't see RB as an area of minimal depth). Ridley plays fewer snaps a game, Mayo is out there almost every down on defense and is calling the plays. Bolden and Jonas Grey aren't perfect replacements for Ridley and might not be good, but they're closer to a reasonable facsimile for Ridley than anyone, or any composite of multiple players, that they have on the roster to sub in for Mayo. Its not ideal, bit its easier to game plan around not having Ridley, they can use more Vereen and use different running plays that work more to his strengths. If the run defense falls apart like it did last year after Mayo and Wilfork went down teams will just run the ball a million times for 6 yards a clip.
It's more on the OL to block well. These backs can provide what Ridley could just not as explosive(and Ridley wasn't that explosive). They just need to run the ball enough to effectively set up the play action passing game. If they get 70-100 yds a game on the ground I'd consider that good enough.
I haven't checked the tape to see what they did yesterday, but the obvious thing to me is to run a base 3-4 with Chandler Jones and Ninkovich as OLB and Hightower and Collins inside. The problem is Easley's hurt, Vellano's cut, and Siliga's on IR-DTR, so there were only 3 healthy interior types yesterday to make up the "3" part of "3-4." They could easily add Vellano when they put Mayo on IR. In the nickel, Chandler and Ninkovich bump up to DE, one DL comes off, and they play a 4-2. Could see more dime, too, at least as Hightower returns from his knee injury.nazz45 said: