Just What is Apex Mountain: Rewatchables discussion thread

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I had never seen "Saturday Night Fever" from start to finish. I knew the famous opening and dance scenes, I remember clips from cable, but never sat through the movie. A few weeks ago, I listened to the Rewachables Podcast for it on the train. About a week after that, my wife was watching it, so I finally saw it.

How is it a Rewatchable? Does everyone just forget about the last 10 minutes and remember the dance scenes? Did more people see the PG cut than dd the R cut? I'd argue it's a more depressing movie than "Requiem for a Dream."

It'd fit right in with Rock Bottom Month.
 

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I had never seen "Saturday Night Fever" from start to finish. I knew the famous opening and dance scenes, I remember clips from cable, but never sat through the movie. A few weeks ago, I listened to the Rewachables Podcast for it on the train. About a week after that, my wife was watching it, so I finally saw it.

How is it a Rewatchable? Does everyone just forget about the last 10 minutes and remember the dance scenes? Did more people see the PG cut than dd the R cut? I'd argue it's a more depressing movie than "Requiem for a Dream."

It'd fit right in with Rock Bottom Month.
"All you need is a salad bowl and a potato masher and you got your shit together." It's pretty bad.
 

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It’s raining frogs in the studio as Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey rewatch the 1999 film ‘Magnolia,’ starring Tom Cruise, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Julianne Moore and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson.
 

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It’s raining frogs in the studio as Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey rewatch the 1999 film ‘Magnolia,’ starring Tom Cruise, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Julianne Moore and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson.
I'm guessing this is just a re-broadcast from the 1999 movies podcast?
 

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Finally, been waiting for this one...
View: https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1767406248906162391

New @TheRewatchables — ‘Risky Business’ with me, @ChrisRyan77 and Guido the Killer Pimp. Our 14th Tom Cruise movie and the one that turned him into a star. Listen to this pod right away even if you have a trig midterm tomorrow.
Just circling back to note that this one was very good. Lots of sweet spots for Bill and Chris: Cruise, 80s sex comedies,, a director with a huge “what-if?” career. Enjoyed this a lot.
 

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Not that every frame of the movie isn't burned into my memory, but this afternoon I'm using tonight's pod as an excuse to fire up The Running Man.
 

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The Rewatchables and 60 Songs that Explain the 90s have been my go-to lawn mowing podcasts for the past few years. And The Running Man is one of my all-time faves. So I'm verrry excited to mow the lawn this weekend.
 

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey threw up 19 times in 48 days after revisiting the 2004 romantic comedy ‘Along Came Polly,’ starring Ben Stiller, Jennifer Aniston, and Philip Seymour Hoffman.
 

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The Running Man was great. Kyle Brandt was really on his game for that one.

I caught up on the Forrest Gump and The Fugitive eps on a long drive this weekend. Man oh man, both were great and completely hysterical.

I may have laughed for 3 minutes straight when CR dropped "Find this man! And someone feed my cat! His name is Tickles." during the Picking Nits portion of The Fugitive.
 

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I like Jerry Maguire quite a bit but it’s the definition of a *** movie and I’m surprised they were so offended by Ebert’s review, which seemed spot on IMO.
 

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They continue to obsess over why that divorce group is still there when Jerry gets home from the game. But at no point does anyone point out that the game was a special Christmas edition of MNF. Those women might not have anyone else to go home to, so they're spending the holiday with each other.
 

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They continue to obsess over why that divorce group is still there when Jerry gets home from the game. But at no point does anyone point out that the game was a special Christmas edition of MNF. Those women might not have anyone else to go home to, so they're spending the holiday with each other.
They're right.

It's not Xmas though. It's simply December. They say Arizona needs to win "this week and next week". That puts the game in middle of December.

Football game maybe starting 9 on east coast, so 7 (no DST) in Phoenix in winter--intro shows it's dark---3.5 hours at game, since Jerry hangs out after, leaves stadium no earlier than 10:30 pm in Phoenix, 9:30 pm in LA--then flies back to Cali, gets home....gotta be 11 pm at the absolute earliest. On a Monday. In mid-December.
 
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They're right.

It's not Xmas though. It's simply December. They say Arizona needs to win "this week and next week". That puts the game in middle of December.

Football game maybe starting 9 on east coast, so 7 (no DST) in Phoenix in winter--intro shows it's dark---3.5 hours at game, since Jerry hangs out after, leaves stadium no earlier than 10:30 pm in Phoenix, 9:30 pm in LA--then flies back to Cali, gets home....gotta be 11 pm at the absolute earliest. On a Monday. In mid-December.
If you watch the movie, in the intro to the game one can hear Frank Gifford saying, "It's a special Christmas Night edition of Monday Night Football." (Crowe likely took the footage from the 1995 game, which was the last game of the season, played on December 25, 1995.) That's in the movie. Now the other stuff about Arizona needing wins to make the playoffs was added by the film, because the 1995 Cards went 4-12 and had nothing riding on that game.
 

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If you watch the movie, in the intro to the game one can hear Frank Gifford saying, "It's a special Christmas Night edition of Monday Night Football." (Crowe likely took the footage from the 1995 game, which was the last game of the season, played on December 25, 1995.) That's in the movie. Now the other stuff about Arizona needing wins to make the playoffs was added by the film, because the 1995 Cards went 4-12 and had nothing riding on that game.
Fair enough, but the last Christmas MNF game started at 8:15. If you subtract 45 minutes from each of the times I posted and it's still really late to be chilling at a divorced women's group. Seemed to be doing group therapy as opposed to enjoying each other on a holiday.

Not a big deal either way. Adds to the drama.
 

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I've gotta say, this one was underwhelming. I have a lot of memories of Back to the Future II being a fun watch, but the nitpicks in this episode were so over-the-top that it made me wonder if Robert Zemeckis ran over Chris Ryan's dog or something. They even acknowledged it, something like "Have we ever had this many nitpicks?" I mean, it's a comedy about time travel for god's sake, and yeah, it pales in comparison to the original to a certain extent, but damn, saying that Doc Brown and Marty should have had jet lag after time-traveling? C'mon....
I normally feel like I want to go back and rewatch most of the movies they discuss after listening, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but that's not what this one did. It just feels like they lost the thread on the pod midway through this one.
 

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All The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Mallory Rubin need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and they’re fine after rewatching the 1982 classic ‘Fast Times at Ridgemont High’ starring Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Phoebe Cates.
 

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I've gotta say, this one was underwhelming. I have a lot of memories of Back to the Future II being a fun watch, but the nitpicks in this episode were so over-the-top that it made me wonder if Robert Zemeckis ran over Chris Ryan's dog or something. They even acknowledged it, something like "Have we ever had this many nitpicks?" I mean, it's a comedy about time travel for god's sake, and yeah, it pales in comparison to the original to a certain extent, but damn, saying that Doc Brown and Marty should have had jet lag after time-traveling? C'mon....
I normally feel like I want to go back and rewatch most of the movies they discuss after listening, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but that's not what this one did. It just feels like they lost the thread on the pod midway through this one.
I get your complaint, but I didn’t find the over-nitpicking as much of a drag. Most of it was framed comedically, so I thought it largely worked.

One random thing I realized while pondering the BttF universe…. We never met Biff’s son, did we? The high schooler who would have been 1985 Marty’s contemporary.

Biff was from 1955, and his grandson Griff was from 2015. But we never met Biff Jr in ‘85 Hill Valley. Or as an adult in 2015. Interesting.
 

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I get your complaint, but I didn’t find the over-nitpicking as much of a drag. Most of it was framed comedically, so I thought it largely worked.

One random thing I realized while pondering the BttF universe…. We never met Biff’s son, did we? The high schooler who would have been 1985 Marty’s contemporary.

Biff was from 1955, and his grandson Griff was from 2015. But we never met Biff Jr in ‘85 Hill Valley. Or as an adult in 2015. Interesting.
With Marty being the youngest of the McFly kids, it's possible if not likely that Biff Jr is older than him. I like to think that he was classmates with Marty's brother, maybe even his boss at Burger King until Marty changed the family's fortunes and now he's Biff Jr's boss at whatever office he works at.
 

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With Marty being the youngest of the McFly kids, it's possible if not likely that Biff Jr is older than him. I like to think that he was classmates with Marty's brother, maybe even his boss at Burger King until Marty changed the family's fortunes and now he's Biff Jr's boss at whatever office he works at.
Quite possibly. It was just something I had never considered before, and I have watched all three BttF films a LOT over the years.
 

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With Marty being the youngest of the McFly kids, it's possible if not likely that Biff Jr is older than him. I like to think that he was classmates with Marty's brother, maybe even his boss at Burger King until Marty changed the family's fortunes and now he's Biff Jr's boss at whatever office he works at.
In a darker cut of the movie, Biff's son could be in jail for attempting the same thing to Marty's mom his dad did in 1955.
 

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Crazy that it only took Larry David to get Bill to give us advanced notice on this week's movie (edit: not that crazy based on the number I've times I've explained something to my wife that she's totally dismissed until someone with sufficient gravitas says the exact same thing). Maybe we should ask Sly to tell him how to pronounce "robot".
 

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All The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Mallory Rubin need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and they’re fine after rewatching the 1982 classic ‘Fast Times at Ridgemont High’ starring Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Phoebe Cates.
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Does anyone know how long do The Ringer podcasts stay on the The Ringer site before moving to Spotify? I listen when i commute to work but I'm WFH this week and there were some i want to listen to next week.
 

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Does anyone know how long do The Ringer podcasts stay on the The Ringer site before moving to Spotify? I listen when i commute to work but I'm WFH this week and there were some i want to listen to next week.
I think forever. I used to Google The Rewatchables + the movie name and I've been able to listen to them all on the website.

The full archives were up on Google Podcasts, before that was terminated.
 

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey qualify for the Little 500 race in Bloomington, Indiana, after rewatching the 1979 coming-of-age comedy-drama ‘Breaking Away,’ starring Dennis Quaid, Dennis Christopher, and Daniel Stern and directed by Peter Yates.
 

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan are too fucking macho after rewatching the 1990 crime-thriller ‘Internal Affairs,’ starring Richard Gere, Andy Garcia, and Nancy Travis.
I hadn't seen Internal Affairs in a long time but watched it over the weekend so I could listen to the pod, and while I like the movie, it is not a "rewatchable" movie by any stretch. Manchester by the Sea isn't either.
Oh, I kind of disagree. As they say on the pod, there’s a ton of really cringey shit in this one, but it ran on cable forever in the early 90s. It’s very rewatchable.

Worth noting that Ryan’s interpretation of the Byron Mayo/Robert Loggia character from An Officer and a Gentleman on this one is just incredible.
 

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan agree to shave 21 minutes off this podcast in order to rewatch the 1974 classic ‘The Longest Yard,’ starring Burt Reynolds, Eddie Albert, and Ed Lauter.
 

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I don’t get much bothered by the “rewatchable” thing. There are only so many Shawshanks, and they are running out. I like the podcast, even if it departs from its original mission. Maybe they need some flexibility in the categories, but they kind of already do that. If the alternative is “well we have no more Back to the Futures, so we are shutting down the podcast,” I am fine with them keeping it going.
 

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I don’t think they’re running out, necessarily. There are still a LOT of movies that fit the criteria that they haven’t done.

A challenge, though, is that Bill’s tastes largely eliminate the sci-fi, fantasy, animated and kids genres. Not only does that mean we’re not getting Marvel and Star Wars movies, but we’re also not getting 80s/90s fare that was re-run a ton on cable, such as Space Camp, Starman, Little Giants, WarGames, etc.

Hell, have they ever done The Natural?
 

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I don’t think they’re running out, necessarily. There are still a LOT of movies that fit the criteria that they haven’t done.

A challenge, though, is that Bill’s tastes largely eliminate the sci-fi, fantasy, animated and kids genres. Not only does that mean we’re not getting Marvel and Star Wars movies, but we’re also not getting 80s/90s fare that was re-run a ton on cable, such as Space Camp, Starman, Little Giants, WarGames, etc.

Hell, have they ever done The Natural?
Yes
 

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I was thinking about which bangers are still out there that they are saving. Pulp Fiction and Almost Famous are the first two that come to mind.

I wish they would re-do Shawshank with the regular crew (Simmons, Fennessey, Ryan). Bill did that one with his Dad and it is unlistenable.

Groundhog Day is another one I wish they would re-do. I like Issa Rae a lot but she didn’t understand the format and the podcast is bad.
 

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The thing that bugs me about it being about Bill's tastes is that he doesn't have to host every episode. He did used to sit out on occasion. I get that it's his show and his network and all that, but if it's legitimately a concern that they're running out of movies, I don't see why Bill can't step back and let others host and cover (or re-cover) movies that aren't in his wheelhouse in order to extend the life of the pod.
 

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The thing that bugs me about it being about Bill's tastes is that he doesn't have to host every episode. He did used to sit out on occasion. I get that it's his show and his network and all that, but if it's legitimately a concern that they're running out of movies, I don't see why Bill can't step back and let others host and cover (or re-cover) movies that aren't in his wheelhouse in order to extend the life of the pod.
It's not open mic night.

Only professionals can host the pod. That leaves. . . .Bill.
 

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Also Bill is incredibly entertaining and most of the pods he hasn’t done have been mediocre, IMHO. Also that.
Yes. Simmons can be annoying at times and we’ve litigated and re-litigated his strengths and weaknesses in the Simmons thread a million times, but with respect to this particular pod if he’s not driving or not in it at all it is just not as entertaining.

I’ve been listening and re-listening to some of the past episodes and there is one (can’t remember which movie) where it’s the regular crew but they let Ryan drive. It sucks. Part of that is because Bill can’t play the supporting role and ended up taking over at times, but IMO Ryan just wasn’t as good at keeping the flow going. I fucking love Chris Ryan, I think he’s a legitimately talented, insightful and hysterical guy, and a really, really good podcaster. But it didn’t work with him in the driver’s seat.
 

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I thought the Internal Affairs one (or was it Magnolia?) with Fennessy in the driver's seat worked ok. But I have actively avoided ones where Simmons is not present.
I believe with Mallory. I could be confusing it with Field of Dreams and they discussed The Natural
It was Mallory. I enjoyed her but when my wife and daughter were in the room, they both found her to be cringey. I think listening to Mallory at 1.2X makes her even more jittery than usual.
 

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I don’t think they’re running out, necessarily. There are still a LOT of movies that fit the criteria that they haven’t done.

A challenge, though, is that Bill’s tastes largely eliminate the sci-fi, fantasy, animated and kids genres. Not only does that mean we’re not getting Marvel and Star Wars movies, but we’re also not getting 80s/90s fare that was re-run a ton on cable, such as Space Camp, Starman, Little Giants, WarGames, etc.

Hell, have they ever done The Natural?
I'm pretty sure we'll see Wargames at some point as I'd be surprised if Bill hasn't seen that. If he'll let Mallory cook, I could see her leading a group through the MCU and DCU movies since she essentially already did the whole MCU lineup with Jason back in the day.