Let us wail and moan and rend our garments, woe, for Brady is champion.

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I was jamming out to some Wiz Khalifa earlier and feeling pretty hep and in tune with the youngsters.
 
Then you post-'70 birthers start threading about some anime I had never heard of.
 
Get off my lawn.
Brilliant!
 

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I haven't thought about this in about 30 years, but did it bother anyone else that it took nearly the entire season to get to Iscandar, then they made the whole return trip in one episode?
Why was Dr. Sane a monkey with glasses?
 

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Don't make me turn this shit into VR Troopers or James Bond Jr.
Not your call.

Man, I wish I could photoshop some of those ensemble cast pics with Belichick as Captain Avatar, etc...
 

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ipol said:
I was jamming out to some Wiz Khalifa earlier and feeling pretty hep and in tune with the youngsters.
 
Then you post-'70 birthers start threading about some anime I had never heard of.
 
Get off my lawn.
 
Post-70s? Star Blazers came out in 1979.
 
Come on man.
 

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Ha. I should have been more precise in my "post" notation, you're right. I'll say that, at sixteen, a multitude of things swayed my opinion but cartoons were not among them.
 

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OnWisc said:
So with Rex now turning the Bills into a more hatable enemy, will watching them play the Jets be like watching the Gamilons fight the Comet Empire?

https://youtu.be/sv63KCJUQOA
Comet Empire in season 2 is extremely underated. The Saturn fleet battle was epic.
 

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Several of the posts up thread ridiculed the notion that some jackass like the CHB or Kravitz would question the propriety of Tom's payments.
 
Indeed, it sounds highly implausible and unlikely.  Indeed, this sounds like gifts to lineman and other presents routinely bestowed on other players by teammates, especially highly paid QBs.
 
But how many people can say that the notion didn't pass though their heads for at least a moment, even if it was quickly dismissed?
 
My guess is not many.
 
Thanks for making us all a little bit crazy, albeit at different degrees, Roger.
 

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Several of the posts up thread ridiculed the notion that some jackass like the CHB or Kravitz would question the propriety of Tom's payments.
 
Indeed, it sounds highly implausible and unlikely.  Indeed, this sounds like gifts to lineman and other presents routinely bestowed on other players by teammates, especially highly paid QBs.
 
But how many people can say that the notion didn't pass though their heads for at least a moment, even if it was quickly dismissed?
 
My guess is not many.
 
Thanks for making us all a little bit crazy, albeit at different degrees, Roger.
 
You know, you could always let it the fuck go.
 

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You know, you could always let it the fuck go.
Let what go?  A lack of trust in the NFL's ability to separate misdemeanors or nothings from serious crimes?
 
My observation is that between SpyGate and DeflateGate, and really much more the latter, it's hard to blame ANYONE for having fleeting thoughts that even the most minor things or absolute nothings will get turned into big things.  Hell, I read a report yesterday that had a quote from an anonymous AFC owner conceding that they let the DG molehill turn into a mountain.
 
If you don't understand how the sum total of DG makes Pats and likely other fans question -- even for just a few seconds -- how the NFL might handle the next piece of nothing that comes along, that's pretty strange to me.
 
* And one more thing:  The ESPN OTL report claimed that the NFL seized on DG partially because there was a sense that the league was too lenient re SpyGate.  I don't know if that is accurate.  But it it is accurate, it suggests that the Pats may again find themselves being prosecuted for a nothing violation.  To be clear, I have no doubt that what Brady did here will amount to nothing.  And I am cognizant that the NFL shut down the headset stuff immediately.  Still, the point remains.  It's hard to blame Pats fans for first thinking that the NFL will twist almost anything into a violation, even if those initial thoughts are immediately rejected as the product of paranoia.
 

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Let what go?  A lack of trust in the NFL's ability to separate misdemeanors or nothings from serious crimes?
 
My observation is that between SpyGate and DeflateGate, and really much more the latter, it's hard to blame ANYONE for having fleeting thoughts that even the most minor things or absolute nothings will get turned into big things.  Hell, I read a report yesterday that had a quote from an anonymous AFC owner conceding that they let the DG molehill turn into a mountain.
 
If you don't understand how the sum total of DG makes Pats and likely other fans question -- even for just a few seconds -- how the NFL might handle the next piece of nothing that comes along, that's pretty strange to me.
 
Have all the fleeting thoughts you want. I don't think it's too much to ask that every single one of them not get posted, though.
 

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The fleeting thoughts are unreasonable given the NFL's approach to everything that has even hinted of controversial wrongdoing since the first coin was flipped in week 1 -- they stamp it out like a fire within 24 hours. The bs with the comms in Fox, and the League's swift reaction to it, set the tone.

The idiots know not even to go there.
 

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Any person can give another person a gift of up to 14,000 dollars annually tax free to both parties. So Brady can give whatever he wants to people, it isn't illegal in any way whatsoever.
 

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Bosoxen said:
 
Have all the fleeting thoughts you want. I don't think it's too much to ask that every single one of them not get posted, though.
That's of course, true.
 
And maybe DC is right that it's totally unreasonable to think that the NFL would pursue this.
 
That said, I still think it's understandable that after enduring the NFL's foolishness re DG for as long as we have (and still are with the appeal), that some Pats fans' first reaction is "what will the NFL -- or as I first wrote, an opportunist like Kravitz or the CHB -- do with this bit of nothing?"  My obseravtion is not that it's a reasonable reaction.  It's that it's a commentary on what we've experienced that even the silliest things cause some less hard boiled folks to wonder, even if only for a few moments.
 

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If it materializes -- IF -- get your popcorn ready for, "they are running it up ... Cruelly ... unprofessionally...."

With douchebags as diverse as Dungy and Deadspin leading the war cry.

That may be our next stop.
 

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So your point is:  maybe someone somewhere that might do something about it thought there might be something wrong with Brady giving something to his teammates?
 
Let's just wait until there's an actual fire before calling the fire department.
 

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It's kind of amazing to me that BBtL is now taking the lead in inventing new Patriots crimes.

It's bonkers.
 
This one is particularly egregious. There is nothing here. Too much victimization. It really does need to stop. KfP is right.
 

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This one is particularly egregious. There is nothing here. Too much victimization. It really does need to stop. KfP is right.
Rev is mounting his horse, holstering his firearm and ready to start shooting varmints.
 

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I always thought the saying was "vermin". Learn something new every day.

And yes, Human Fund is fine.
 
The one time the guy references a non-mobster movie and you have to go muck it up.
 

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MarcSullivaFan said:
It's kind of amazing to me that BBtL is now taking the lead in inventing new Patriots crimes.

It's bonkers.
We've been conditioned.
 
We're now pushing the boundaries on Pat's paranoia
 
and speaking from personal experience, it's "varmints"
 

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dcmissle said:
If it materializes -- IF -- get your popcorn ready for, "they are running it up ... Cruelly ... unprofessionally...."

With douchebags as diverse as Dungy and Deadspin leading the war cry.

That may be our next stop.
 
God, I fucking hope so.
 

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Yeah, the piling on is overstating the point.  I don't think anyone thinks there's actually anything to see here. 
 
What is noteworthy, in perhaps just my view, is that ridiculous nothings like can cause people to even register that someone like Bob Kravitz might try to make something of it.  We live in a world, after all, when guys like Ben Volin make multiple identification mistakes and have to retract, with seemingly no consequences.
 
That almost everyone (including me) then concludes "no, that's ridiculous," doesn't negate that being subjected to DG makes some folks wonder for a few seconds before moving on.
 
Put it this way: Before the two Gates, no one would have thought twice about a QB gifting his DBs.  That it even flashes through some heads shows how pathetic this all is.  Or is one more thing that shows that.
 

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The one time the guy references a non-mobster movie and you have to go muck it up.
Looks like varmint and vermin are pretty interchangeable. And I obviously missed the reference, so my apologies there. I'm not very cultured.
 

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Aw, what the fuck? A nice fun little thread jacking about cartoons got Theo Shmeo'ed?

This is why we don't have nice things. 
 

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It's actually one of the "recommended stories" on the front of CNN.com. "Brady paid players that intercepted him?" with the every popular faux "?" headline. 
 
This is how stupid the NFL has become. 
 

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Aw, what the fuck? A nice fun little thread jacking about cartoons got Theo Shmeo'ed?

This is why we don't have nice things. 
 
I came for the persecution complex but stayed for the starblazers.
 

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Despot.

The Millenials want VR Troopers and we expect what we want.
 
Putting VR Troopers and Star Blazers in the same sentence is like putting Ryan Tannehill and Tom Brady in the same sentence.
 

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Putting VR Troopers and Star Blazers in the same sentence is like putting Ryan Tannehill and Tom Brady in the same sentence.
 
Star Blazer was pretty good...even great.  But was it really "Tom Brady" level of great?
 
 
 
And where does Robotech enter into it?  
 
 

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TheoShmeo said:
Yeah, the piling on is overstating the point.  I don't think anyone thinks there's actually anything to see here. 
 
What is noteworthy, in perhaps just my view, is that ridiculous nothings like can cause people to even register that someone like Bob Kravitz might try to make something of it.  We live in a world, after all, when guys like Ben Volin make multiple identification mistakes and have to retract, with seemingly no consequences.
 
That almost everyone (including me) then concludes "no, that's ridiculous," doesn't negate that being subjected to DG makes some folks wonder for a few seconds before moving on.
 
Put it this way: Before the two Gates, no one would have thought twice about a QB gifting his DBs.  That it even flashes through some heads shows how pathetic this all is.  Or is one more thing that shows that.
 
You're making this all up in your head.