2020-2023 I am using Cot's data for their place in MLB. Before that I am using stevetheump data (which might not be completely accurate but I don't want to pay to use Cot's)
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Yeah, and he was wrong that it's proof of anything, and was called out plenty already. And he will be wrong overall if that tweet turns out to be true. Big fucking deal, calling him out here yet again is just starting shit and making noise. The point has been made. Let it go.
I am fine with letting it go, so long as @chawson is also dropping his defense of ownership (and saying people are throwing tantrums, and sarcastically responding to posts). The discussion is going nowhere. Let's see what happens in the next 4 weeks before spring training.
3 weeks and 1 day is when pitchers and catchers start to report. I guess they can make a move after that too.
Source?
You don't set the terms. That said, everyone to their corners and move on from the pile-on. Not a request. @chawson, please do your part to back off absolute statements, and that goes for all of us as well. None of us knows anything for sure. Tim's last 2 sentences are on the nose.
I assumed when you first wrote that you were speaking for yourself, but since you seem to be doubling down: you don't know their intentions, none of us do. Your wording in these two posts sounds like you're arbitrating a known truth and not expressing an opinion.
It doesn't matter what their intentions are. Their actions are the only thing that matters. It's been 4 years. If something changes, great. Until then, they are showing and telling us who they are.
No source.
It's conclusive for the last 4 years. I hope - and every one of us does too - that it changes. I will see it when I believe it. YMMV.
Two years and 3 months ago they were in the ALCS. It has not all been horrible though it has been a rough stretch and it stinks and sucks and stinks. At least use a factual basis for your take if you are asking others to argue in good faith. It's a bad enough situation without embellishment.
I’m happy to agree to this but can you point out the absolute statement I made? I understand you’re peacekeeping and I appreciate it. But is it really out of bounds for me to say that the Red Sox are among a few teams interested in (aka “in on”) Jordan Montgomery? Because that seems to be why these three guys are throwing a fit and tagging me every 20 minutes.
They signed Kluber and JAnsen because they were trying to win. It just didn't work out because they didn't have enough young talent and injury luck.
I can almost see Werner lining up Breslow for the blame already. I think they may have hired the only guy who told them what they wanted to hear: I can win with this roster, without spending.
Just stop. For the love of God. I'll PM you when I have a minute later, but we're all done here.
If we think they're charging too much for an inferior product, we have the same power all consumers have: don't buy the product. If attendance is down significantly (or even slightly), they'll see they'd better take a different approach.
But only half the games, half the players too, but to be fair not as many seats to sell
I always expect owners to care about money over people. I am always surprised when that is not the case. That is fine with me if the company is fighting with all resources available to dominate the market. Anything else and the shareholders are out for blood. We fans are stake holders. We vote with our dollars. Plenty of entertaining baseball in New England in the Summer without the Sox. The Cape league is famous, local school and Summer teams are fun. Kids in the minors fighting for a chance. If you are a baseball purist who can't live without the game you have a plethora of choices other than the Sox. Only way I will go to a Sox game this year is with a free ticket. I'll buy my food outside the park, will probably wear my Betts or Ortiz jersey my 10 year or older cap. Might spring for a water so the Sox get a couple of dollars from me.
Fair enough.
We have a Mookie thread to talk about all things Mookie trade. This is not the thread to rehash this again. I'm moving your post there.
I think that you're likely correct here, but....
....if this turns out to be an actual quote I would love to know more.
ding ding ding.
Yes, can we get back to what’s important? Namely blaming the Yankees for everything that’s wrong in the world. I hear that YES’s broadcast signal is responsible for the rapidly increasing rate of cancer metastization.
We were somewhat creeped out by the fact that it was Jean Yawkey’s tongue.
I watched him hit yesterday vs. Tigres de Licey. He looked slow and stiff. He’s done.
If it helps, you can usually get mlbtv for almost free, like...$3.. from someone elses T-Mobile account.
It’s a pathetic strategy. Pathetic. If this is what comes to pass this year.
Yeah, it really feels like they've been making stuff up on the fly since they fired Bloom, and at some point in the offseason they decided to go all in on this new message of selling the future at the expense of the present - even more so than under Bloom. Which is kind of amazing, really.
Honestly the worst part of that is the quote from Kennedy. That is, why is he still talking? For all of the WEEI nonsense speculation about Jonathan Kraft getting involved in football ops, Kennedy actually has a baseball head in Breslow now but is still talking. Therefore, still involved in baseball ops. This is a problem, people.
2024 will be Devers age 27 season. Barring injury or checking out, he's got more than enough time yet for current high school players to make the majors.
At this point it would seem rather naive to think anything but that Kennedy and others are extremely involved in baseball decisions. The Red Sox CBO position seems to have become the replaceable part in the machine.
Maybe. But not necessarily. Could be that he's just relaying the strategy crafted by Breslow.
I'm probably going to be in the minority here, but I prefer this route as opposed to the "bridge to nowhere" that you get with one year deals to old players (or the 2022 and 2023 seasons).
