Loveable Losers v. Mary Harts - NLCS

Harry Hooper

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No, Buck, it wasn't a discussion about the infield fly rule. It was a discussion about the rule against a fielder simulating a catch. But he didn't simulate a catch there. Can't blame Roberts for trying that argument, though.
 

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So on a high pop up with runners on 1st & 2nd, why wouldn't you line up under it, then let it drop, then get an easy DP at 3rd & 2nd?

^^ I guess so, it was on the edge. felt like an infield fly and maybe should be called as such.
Because the umpire will call the infield fly rule and the batter is automatically out Taking off any force outs.
 

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So on a high pop up with runners on 1st & 2nd, why wouldn't you line up under it, then let it drop, then get an easy DP at 3rd & 2nd?

^^ I guess so, it was on the edge. felt like an infield fly and maybe should be called as such.
That wasn't very close really. It has to be a fly ball.
 

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Do you know at what point it's defined to be a fly ball?
Judgment call. But the intent of the IFFR is to avoid the situation where runners stay on the bags and then get forced out in a third base to second base double play. On a bang bang bang play, there really is no deception. If the runner on second had stayed there assuming a caught line drive, he would have been safe, because the force out at second would have taken off the force at third.
 

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Kershaw is so cooked. Roberts has to be close to pulling him, right? 72 pitches through six innings. Two hits. Five Ks and no walks. Yuck.
 

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Judgment call. But the intent of the IFFR is to avoid the situation where runners stay on the bags and then get forced out in a third base to second base double play. On a bang bang bang play, there really is no deception. If the runner on second had stayed there assuming a caught line drive, he would have been safe, because the force out at second would have taken off the force at third.
Right, and the batter has the responsibility of taking care of himself by hustling to first base.
 

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And remember, the only way that works is a soft liner. If it's a hard liner, the fielder would have to intentionally drop the ball and that's not allowed. I think on a soft liner, the rules don't purport to compel a fielder to step forward as opposed to back. Be tough to call too.
 

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And remember, the only way that works is a soft liner. If it's a hard liner, the fielder would have to intentionally drop the ball and that's not allowed. I think on a soft liner, the rules don't purport to compel a fielder to step forward as opposed to back. Be tough to call too.
Yes, 5.09a, Part 12:

An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases.

I assume that's what Roberts was arguing, not that the infield fly rule should have been invoked. If the fielder had extended his glove out to snare the liner and then pulled it back at the last second, it's probably called a dead ball there.
 
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Yes, 5.09a, Part 12:

An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases.

I assume that's what Roberts was arguing, not that the infield fly rule should have been invoked. If the fielder had extended his glove out to snare the liner and then pulled it back at the last second, it's probably called a dead ball there.
Someone this year with a fast runner on first let a pop up drop and took the force at second to swap runners. The opposing manager went nuts and either got tossed or almost did.
 

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I know he's pitching a gem but man does Buck love Kershaw; imagine if he pitched for St. Louis.

Disclaimer: This may have to do with my utter hatred of everything Joe Buck.
 

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Keep Kershaw in.
I want to see him stay in but it's probably the right call to go to Jansen for 6 outs, both because Jansen is really good and there's a day off tomorrow and because given Kershaw's struggles in the postseason, Roberts can take him out after 7 shutout innings with an unquestionably great performance.