Can you expand? The succession plan indicates that they've done all the background on Mayo. What's being rushed from your POV?
Just thinking out loud here, but could you make argument that because Vravel has done it the expectations would be higher and there's a little less pressure on Mayo/honeymoon period might last a little bit longer? Which isnt necessarily a bad thing imo.
There are other similar ones floating around as well.
Maybe, but it's also a buffer for a new GM. If the team stinks, the new GM gets a renewed "Mayo wasn't *my* guy" honeymoon.
Seems pretty likely the other dominoes will include several internal moves, including GM. Hiring a HC then an outside GM is a recipe for disaster if things don’t start great.
You could. I think the expectations are going to be high either way. If we're being honest, a vast majority of the fanbase is spoiled, whiny and entitled. We are a victim of our own success. I am definitely not complaining about this, as the alternative doesn't bring 20+ years of amazing memories.
Yeah. This is all very valid...I think I was trying to be optimistic about the fanbase. Kind of foolish, thanks for putting me in my place haha!
If the last couple of years culls a bunch of crybabies from the fanbase, then they will have been well worth it.
Exactly. They've had this plan set up for quite some time now. The exact opposite of rushed.
Not at all!
I think part of the consternation is that the "plan" was probably built on the assumption that Bill would be handing over an 11-6/10-7 at minimum playoff team to Mayo and not a 4-13 clusterfuck. They maybe should've re-evaluated given the changing circumstance.
I'm also assuming they hire a real GM as well.
Not a fan of this move at all. You go from greatest coach of all time to a guy with zero experience, and this all happens in less than 24 hours. Could care less if they had a succession plan. Having a plan in place doesn’t always mean that plan has to be executed. It’s just starting to feel more like we moved away from Bill to prevent Mayo from leaving. Hoping for the best, but bracing for early 90s Pats redux, assuming of course we aren’t already there.
yeah but sadly I dont think you're wrong whatsoever about the spoiled fanbase...although the optimist in me hopes this is somewhat true:
I am at peace with the idea that there are no "honeymoons" in Boston sports. Whether its a spoiled bunch of fans ("why *cant* we win the Super Bowl EVERY year"?), a stupid bunch of fans ("any idiot can do this job. just look at my fantasy team!!"); or the toxic and corrosive-to-intelligent-thought that is local media, the noise starts after a 1st and 10 running play on opening day gets stuffed for no gain. Fuck the noise.
I dunno, I wonder if BoB stays to have an experienced hand at OC to aid a young rookie coach for next year.
Ironically enough, the best coach available is Belichick. They could have tried to get Harbaugh from Michigan, but I'm fairly certain that the Mass Public Works had enough manpower to clean up the river of vomit that would have been released along the 495 gateway.
Speaks to a continuation of the Belichick culture with Mayo, which is IMO 100% a good thing. Mixed in with a bit more modern day approach makes me very optimistic.
So, it isn't about "being rushed" but it is about personal feelings about not liking the move. Ok. I'm guessing you would like the plan and wouldn't say it was "rushed" if you liked the move.
I just can’t imagine this being the case. Bill willingly participated in planning his exit? Seems like a recipe for disfunction, maybe it was.
The only exception to this in my mind would be Vrabel as GM. He wanted the role in TN, so he's got the ambition for an executive position. He didn't 'dispel' the rumors (shock! horror!) about wanting to work in NE and he has obvious links to Mayo which may make him amenable to having him as the HC. Plus he's unemployed. Plus Kraft loves him.
I'm not sure it's planning his exit. Maybe it's more like buying a burial plot. Gonna need it eventually.
I don’t like the move. I have no idea how I’d be if I liked the move - mostly because I don’t like the move.
Not singling you out, but I don’t get this need a more modern approach thing in regards to Bill. 2018 wasn’t a hundred years ago. They fell off because the greatest player in the history of the sport left, and for a variety of reasons, their overall talent level, particularly on offense, degraded. I don’t think the game left Bill behind, or he no longer knows how to manage and lead players.
If they want to recruit him appropriately, I think a tray of cupcakes should be prominently displayed at the meeting. BUT, he only gets one if he agrees.
