Mike'd Up: The Mike Francesa Show
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"You've seen the changing of the guard, they don't have Manny anymore and they don't really have Papi anymore, it's about Bay, it's about Elsbury, it's about Pedroia and Youkilis and Lester and Masterson. They are doing it the right way. The Yankees need to get help on this pitching staff and they need to get ARod back."
On the flip side, more Dog would have inevitably meant less Mike. And based on what I'm reading, I'm not sure that Mike could say anything "better," even with Dog their adding salt to the wound.
Does anyone know what time YES runs their TV replay of this show's highlights?
There isn't a highlight show scheduled due to the Yankee game and the Joe Girardi Show. The rest is pre/post game and then paid programming. Sorry.
EDIT: I should have taped the first 20 minutes myself. It'd be up on YouTube already. My bad.....He will repeat this same rant at 5pm but it's not quite the same.
UPDATE: Lisa from Whitestone calling Jacoby's steal a "classless" play. Really, Lisa? If Jeter had done it and then took a bow to the Yankee Stadium crowd would it be so classless?
"Everyone loves to hate A-Rod. Everyone can hate him. But you know what? They miss him. And they haven't done anything without him."
Not heard Mike this ticked off in a while, he's publicly advocating throwing at Jacoby. You can hear the smoke coming out of his ears.
Honestly, will some NYC-area SoSHer call in to Mike's show and address this hypocrisy? The Yankees take curtain calls for 1st inning solo home-runs against the Orioles in April, for Christ's sake.
I loved Lisa's call. "That was the most CLASSLESS thing I've EVER SEEN."
Mike's not only talking about the curtain call, but Francona and everyone else yukking it up in the dugout. He's saying the Sox embarrassed and laughed at the Yankees on national television and he's annoyed the team didn't do anything in response (ie brush back Jacoby).
Mike's not only talking about the curtain call, but Francona and everyone else yukking it up in the dugout. He's saying the Sox embarrassed and laughed at the Yankees on national television and he's annoyed the team didn't do anything in response (ie brush back Jacoby).
I may be wrong, because I was somewhat delirious, but I don't remember either Bay or Youks taking curtain calls after their homers on Friday night.
If those were hit by Yankees at the Toilet, they would have been publicly fellated.
If those were hit by Yankees at the Toilet, they would have been publicly fellated.
I don't have a problem with Yankee fan reaction to this. It's not like anyone, least of all Francesa, is excusing the team's poor play. But the Sox were having a great time with the steal last night, and good for them. If the Yankees were bothered, they had the chance to do something about it, but they didn't. It's frustrating for a fan to see your team humiliated like that and not see them respond.
And it would be more like Melky stealing home in YS, taking a curtain call, Girardi laughing about it in the dugout, etc. That would piss me off as a Sox fan.
And just imagine John Sterling's calls of those homers? Or his call of Jacoby's steal- what decibel levels could he have reached? His head probably would have exploded like the fat lady with the bomb in her head in Total Recall.
Sterling would have totally missed it.
And just imagine John Sterling's calls of those homers? Or his call of Jacoby's steal- what decibel levels could he have reached? His head probably would have exploded like the fat lady with the bomb in her head in Total Recall.
"Here's the pitch....and....HIFHOAHFFFF UGH UGH OMG OMG IHF....base....stolen....ahnjdfgkfgafg...majesty........nafafaf.f....JACOBYSTEAL
SHOME!"
As a Sox fan, that wouldn't piss me off. What would piss me off is if the Sox let the Yankees do all the things the Sox did to them this weekend. That would make me angry. It's the MFY's fault, not the Red Sox fans.
The MFY are focusing on Jacoby and his curtain call and not their flaws because their flaws are deep and they would rather not address them if they can point fingers at curtain calls. Ridiculous. The Yankees really suck and are worthless. I am so glad they got walloped this weekend, I'm so glad they lost their soul because of the comeback in 2004, and I'm so glad Tex's will play out his contract just like Giambi did, with a few homers here and there but no world series win.
Where is that happening? No Yankee fan that I've talked to or heard, and definitely not Francesa, is ignoring Yankee flaws in favor of bitching about Ellsbury. Come on, that's not fair. Francesa spent the first 45 minutes of the show tearing the Yankees apart and praising the Sox as the smarter organization.
One thing Mike's said a couple of times is that Theo "hated" the Lowell and Beckett deal and Theo wouldn't have done it if he was the GM at the time. Is there anything concrete that's been reported about this, that he definitely would not have done it? I thought Theo was at that point communicating with the Sox FO.
that's all you will get. It's very, very hard to get through at this time of day. If you want to try the Schmoozer later on, that's a little easier (but still tough).
Ok, maybe they aren't completely ignoring the flaws, but they are burying them a bit if they are complaining about a curtain call, don't you think? I mean, after this weekend, out of all the things they are complaining about, it's a curtain call when the MFY have curtain calls for 2 run homers in a 10-1 game? Isn't there like 40 other things the team and the fans should be discussing?
I think their reaction to the curtain call is focusing on the minutia to avoid dealing with the major issues the team faces and actually shows what a whiny bunch of sore losers the fans are.
a lady called in to mad dog's show talking about how francessa was ranting about ellsbury, he replied with "i dont have a problem with that, how about the yankees go out and beat them to do something about it? i dont have a problem with the kid enjoying his moment"
Really?
For the kinds of reasons that have been expressed by others in this thread, I think worrying about how the Sox were reacting in the dugout is beyond silly.
If things were turned around, I'd be thinking about things like moving the fifth starter into the pen to shore it up, why the rest of the pen before the closer is so bad, whether any of the guys in the minors could plug the pen holes, what could be done to prevent someone else from stealing home in the future and a bunch of other things.
And I wouldn't want the Sox to "respond" with some sort of extracurricular activity because a player made an extraordinary play and then celebrated it with his teammates by taking a curtain call, laughing and smiling.
Not that this is a perfect analogy at all, but this reminds me of LaDanian Tomlinson's misplaced bitterness at the Patriots' "excessive" happiness and celebration after the Pats-Chargers divisional playoff game in 2006.
Last, for what it's worth, I've talked about last night with a bunch of Yankees fans here in NY and all of them were ticked off at the Yankees and the result, and none of them had given a thought to the curtain call and the Sox reaction to it.
And yet he keeps saying that Ellsbury should be drilled for showing up the Yanks by stealing home plate. I don't understand this at all. Although I disagree with the notion that the curtain call was something to get upset about it, I suppose I can understand a blowhard talk radio guy trying to make something out of it, but why is stealing home plate something deserving of punishment? It's Ellsbury's fault that Pettitte can't pay attention in this situation? That Posada didn't do whatever he's supposed to do? Stealing home is now something you do to embarrass the opposition instead of adding a run in a tight ballgame? It's not like he stole home with an 8 run lead.
Fatso is acting like Ellsbury did something like a Manny home run watch-and-eventually-trot instead of making a good, exciting heads up play.
Yup. If you haven't, you should read nycdoc's posts in the Yankees game thread, expressing frustration that the Yankees didn't do anything to Ellsbury to retaliate. He's a reasonable and rational Yankees fan who is well aware of his team's flaws.
As for Francesa, he's the type of fan that doesn't like it when Joba fist pumps, when Ortiz never gets brushed back, when Reyes excessively celebrates (because he thinks that unnecessarily pisses the other team off). Some of it is certainly dumb. But when the Yankees, on the verge of being swept in a humiliating fashion that exposes team weaknesses and Sox strengths, get home stolen on them and have to watch the Sox celebrate and laugh, sure I can understand some fans fuming that the Yankees didn't do anything.
I wish they had drilled him in retaliation. There's nothing smarter than putting a runner on when you're behind by 3 runs and said runner has already stolen two bases against you. Please have at it.
My gods that is insane thinking. Ellsbury stole home, which is something that hasn't happened for the Sox since 1994. It was a humongous play in a humongous game and it was done because Andy Pettitte was sleeping on the mound. If that can't be celebrated with a curtain call, I'm not sure what could be.
Wow, Yankee fans really have sore vag's right now. I guess I can understand why, this decade has been a big fat fart in the face. And it couldn't make me happier.
Um, what you are replying to was a quote about Mad Dog's reaction, which was basically the opposite of Francessa's.
Sorry. Didnt realize the quote was referring to Russo. The "he" in my post is Francessa.
Jim Rice on the pregame show about the steal just said Ellsbury had "not just a standing ovation, but a curtain call, which seems like it might embarrass the opposing team." I think the fact that Pettitte and Posada were asleep is more embarrassing, and I think Yankee fans think so too, but my only point is it's not unreasonable for a fan to feel annoyed. Not that the Sox or Ellsbury should feel the need to apologize for anything.
And Remy said 25 years ago there would have been retribution, but the game has changed, you get curtain calls for everything now. That's probably the most accurate way of looking at it, since after all the Yankee players did nothing at all and didn't seem all that bothered.
This post is not getting nearly the attention it deserves. The Yankees regularly take curtain calls for pretty unimpressive shit. Ellsbury took a curtain call for a brilliant play against a bitter rival, the likes of which had not been seen at Fenway for 15 years.
The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
It was an embarrasing end to an embarrasing weekend for the Yankees. Of course the Yankees' fans are going to be pissed. It makes it that much better.
Today, when I have heard it, is Red Sox are Better in Every Way, part 2.
A caller mentioned seeing a piece on ESPN, I think it was, that featured some Red Sox scout who is a genius. Every guy he gets performs for them at the highest level. Does anyone know who this man is? Or is he just a composite figure?
A caller mentioned seeing a piece on ESPN, I think it was, that featured some Red Sox scout who is a genius. Every guy he gets performs for them at the highest level. Does anyone know who this man is? Or is he just a composite figure?
The caller said, "The Sox have an advance scout and this gentleman, who I saw on HBO Real Sports, picks their players using his own, new grading system...". I think he is talking about the 60 Minutes piece on Bill James.