Mookie Betts Promoted 6/28

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There's room on the 40-man, so no corresponding move needed there.  They're carrying 13 pitchers on the 25-man, so it's most likely one of them coming off.  I'd guess RDLR will be optioned to make room.
 

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Well, here we go.
 
Personally, I think we'll ultimately look back on 2014 as a launching point season for a long run of greatness.  Getting Bogaerts, JBJ, Betts, Workman, DeLaRosa, and maybe even Brock Holt (who knew?) their first significant playing time in the majors is going to be huge moving forward.  
 

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I think this is a desperation move and is rushing him a bit.
 
This is an on-pace for like 73 win team with a kid who is tearing up each level put in front of him.  There is nothing to lose here and it's not like they don't need some kind of offensive jolt.
 

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There is a hint of desperation, but with Vic still sidelined, if this guy can get on-base, steal a base it two, it might inject some life-chemistry to the team. The downside is if he's not ready yet and looks over-matched, end the experiment quickly and get him back to AAA.
 

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There's more than a hint of desperation.  I hope this move is being made because the baseball ops staff believes he is ready and not because ownership sees fan interest circling the drain.
 

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Yeah, get him in there against Tanaka!
 
But after that, it's Chase Whitley, Jake Arrieta, Edwin Jackson, Travis Wood, and Miguel Gonzalez. A couple of good arms in there, but not a series of aces and a couple pitchers (Whitley, Jackson, Gonzalez) who aren't much better than what he'll see in Triple-A.
 

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JimD said:
There's more than a hint of desperation.  I hope this move is being made because the baseball ops staff believes he is ready and not because ownership sees fan interest circling the drain.
 
Has there ever been any evidence that this organization makes moves with this in mind? And please don't cite unfounded Boston Globe trash reports indicating that the team signed "Saccharine" Stephen Drew to boost ratings.
 

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I'd prefer he start against Whitley tomorrow instead of tanaka tonight but whatever. Hell he should bring Vazquez up with him
 

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I'd prefer he start against Whitley tomorrow instead of tanaka tonight but whatever. Hell he should bring Vazquez up with him
 
 
Farrell's preferred MO seems to be to have guys come up and watch 1 game for acclimation before starting, but maybe the club feels the current situation qualifies as an emergency.
 

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Paradigm said:
 
Has there ever been any evidence that this organization makes moves with this in mind? And please don't cite unfounded Boston Globe trash reports indicating that the team signed "Saccharine" Stephen Drew to boost ratings.
 
A certain catcher getting a police escort to Fenway comes to mind.
 

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It will be very interesting to see who he takes ABs from. Bradley to the bench? Holt to 3b with Bogie sitting some? Drew? with Xander sliding to SS and Holt to 3b. Lots of options.
 

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It will be very interesting to see who he takes ABs from. Bradley to the bench? Holt to 3b with Bogie sitting some? Drew? with Xander sliding to SS and Holt to 3b. Lots of options.
I'd guess he sticks in RF and Holt moves around, playing where a guy could use a day off. 
 

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Throw the kid in there against Tanaka. I'd rather he make his ML debut tonight than on national tv tomorrow. Too much pressure IMO.

I'm looking forward to the spark the kid will hopefully inject. He can't be any worse than what we're seeing on a regular basis.
 

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JimD said:
 
A certain catcher getting a police escort to Fenway comes to mind.
 
The arrival was ridiculous (and totally awesome, come on) but nobody could catch the knuckleball so they needed him back.
 
IMO, making a move to attract fan interest right now would be something like trading a bunch of top prospects for Matt Kemp. The team has never done that. I could hear a case for the Crawford signing, but nobody's ever made it because the team doesn't operate like that. 
 

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Throw the kid in there against Tanaka. I'd rather he make his ML debut tonight than on national tv tomorrow. Too much pressure IMO.

I'm looking forward to the spark the kid will hopefully inject. He can't be any worse than what we're seeing on a regular basis.
I can absolutely see Pedroia finding a way to get thrown out of the game tonight so Mookie can get his first action at 2B.
 

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I would've preferred another 100 ABs or so for him in AAA but if nothing else, even a short stay in the bigs will be a valuable experience for one of the future faces of the franchise.  Mookie's amazing development also underscores the very impressive progression of the Sox farm system to one the best in baseball, constantly feeding the big club with talented prospects with many more soon to come (Cecchini and Webster again, Vasquez, Ranaudo, Owens, Johnson, Swihart, Marrero, Shaw, Barnes, Coyle, maybe Henry Ramos)
 

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How hilarious is our outfield gonna be with Holt/JBJ/Betts in it?
 
Two infielders and a guy who covers more ground than Rand McNally
 

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I follow Mookie very closely and run the adopt a prospect thread on him, I'm surprised.
He's done nothing but succeed at every level.
He started his on base streak day one at AA and after promoted did it at AAA too. 22 games on Bae in each.

I think it's too soon and no need to rush for him but there is a need and no one better and frankly if he gets exposed and sent back it will tell him what he needs to work on because it's not clear the minors are giving him clues on his problems right now.

I am concerned about him likely playing outfield, just because that is a lot for him to adjust to after sub 20 games in the outfield and only a couple outside of CF.

Given that I wouldn't be shocked to see him play CF and JBJ to right.
 

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This is a desperate team…. no problem with a bit of a desperation move.  I think Mookie can handle it.  That said, before the season started, people would have thought you were crazy if you predicted a June call-up without a Pedroia injury. 
 
They didn't call Mookie up to sit on the bench, but I wouldn't be surprised if he made his debut tomorrow instead of tonight.  I think Bradley will get his playing time cut, as well as possibly Gomes/Nava.  I like the idea of moving Xander to SS occasionally with Holt at 3B to open up a spot, but not sure Farrell will do that. 
 

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The franchise isn't desperate. This is simply about putting the best players on the 25-man roster.
 
Mookie can work and learn along side with Dustin, Papi, Xander, Napoli, Lester, JBJ, and RDLR. He's going to grow more at the ML level than AAA level. CF in Fenway is a lot different than any other CF and being able to get mentored by Papi and Dustin, along with Xander, will help him far more as a player than crushing it in McCoy. Beyond that, you can start to grow chemistry and set expectations for the next few years as opposed trying desperately to win and inevitably floundering to a .500 record in 2014.
 
A desperate franchise would trade Mookie for Jason Hammel. 
 

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I follow Mookie very closely and run the adopt a prospect thread on him, I'm surprised.
He's done nothing but succeed at every level.
He started his on base streak day one at AA and after promoted did it at AAA too. 22 games on Bae in each.

I think it's too soon and no need to rush for him but there is a need and no one better and frankly if he gets exposed and sent back it will tell him what he needs to work on because it's not clear the minors are giving him clues on his problems right now.

I am concerned about him likely playing outfield, just because that is a lot for him to adjust to after sub 20 games in the outfield and only a couple outside of CF.

Given that I wouldn't be shocked to see him play CF and JBJ to right.
RF in the Urinal is a better place to play Mookie. Left-center/ CF is a lot of acreage for an inexperienced OFer. 
 

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I like the move. While this is not a desperate team, it is a team desperately in need of a spark. The team now has two all-purpose floating substitutes: Holt plays the corner outfield and infield spots; Betts plays everywhere but catcher. Farrell has no excuse now for not making liberal use of the 25-man roster, especially for pinch-hitters.
 

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In a way, tonight's game is national TV also, as it's on Fox. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sit and watch tonight.
I had no idea tonight's game was on Fox. I'm asleep at the switch.
 

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A desperate franchise would trade Mookie for Jason Hammel. 
 
That would just be a stupid franchise, not a desperate one.
 
Regardless if people agree with the "desperate" terminology (I don't know how you could have watched this team and think otherwise for the 2014 season), the team definitely needs a spark.  Other than a major trade, this is our best chance. 
 

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Isn't it possible Pedroia could get a few days off?
 
At some point this would be an excellent idea.  However, given the current opponent, it's more likely I will wake-up to a foot of snow on my Florida driveway than see a Sox lineup against the Yankees without Pedroia in it.  
 

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I can absolutely see Pedroia finding a way to get thrown out of the game tonight so Mookie can get his first action at 2B.
I wouldn't be surprised if the corresponding move is Pedroia to the DL.
 

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So where does our budding on-base machine hit in the order?
 
Do you intro him at 1 (I assume that's where he usually hit in AAA/AA)? or 2?
 
Or ease him into the lineup at 7-8-9?
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the corresponding move is Pedroia to the DL.
Why would they call up Mookie then? Pedroia going down now essentially tanks the season. 
 

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Paradigm said:
Has there ever been any evidence that this organization makes moves with this in mind? And please don't cite unfounded Boston Globe trash reports indicating that the team signed "Saccharine" Stephen Drew to boost ratings.
Doug Mirabelli?
 

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I wouldn't expect much from Mookie initially, but even if we get next to nothing from him, that's better than what we're getting now.
Why? At every new level, the guy has done nothing but perform. He's not going to produce at the same level he did in the minors but nothing in his past suggests he'll come up and suck.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the corresponding move is Pedroia to the DL.
 
As has been stated repeatedly, they are carrying 13 pitchers. Unless Peavy is moved, RDLR is back on the shuttle
 

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Doug Mirabelli?
 
I don't understand this. Does anyone actually believe that the Red Sox reacquired Doug Mirabelli because it was a move that the fan base wanted and it would drum up ratings?
 
Theo panicked and overpaid for him, but, as Paradigm said, it was because there was literally no one on the roster that could catch Wake and they rushed him to the ballpark with the police cavalcade to get him there in time to catch for Wakefield that game. I never thought it was a big show to unveil the sexy Mirabelli and I'm surprised anyone remembers it as such.
 

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bradmahn said:
 
I don't understand this. Does anyone actually believe that the Red Sox reacquired Doug Mirabelli because it was a move that the fan base wanted and it would drum up ratings?
 
Theo panicked and overpaid for him, but, as Paradigm said, it was because there was literally no one on the roster that could catch Wake and they rushed him to the ballpark with the police cavalcade to get him there in time to catch for Wakefield that game. I never thought it was a big show to unveil the sexy Mirabelli and I'm surprised anyone remembers it as such.
Yes, it was for the reason you mention. The police escort was what made it so crowd-pleasing. I loved it. When I saw today's thread title, I started singing. This will have the effect, whether or not that was its purpose, of reenergizing the fans. I know it's making me happy and looking forward to seeing this bright, shiny thing.
 

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Again, why would the Red Sox call him up now if they were in any way punting the season? It's not even July and Mookie has just over 100 PAs in AAA. 
 

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Per Rosenthal on twitter.

Betts not in lineup for #RedSox tonight against #Yankees' Tanaka. Will start in RF tomorrow; working at that spot today in early work at YS.
 

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#RedSox will clear a spot by optioning De La Rosa. Peavy is healthy, cannot be placed on DL. Obviously, Sox have yet to find taker for him.
Now this is annoying. We get a shiny new toy, but don't get to watch one of the few pleasures of the season. Rats. I suppose the thinking is that Doubront gives value out of the bullpen if not in the rotation, and that RDLR needs to keep starting every five days. But it is just another disappointment in a disappointing season that we can't see RDLR again until someone is foolish enough to take Peavy off the Sox's hands.