Can’t believe Nunez came out. Really seems like his kind of game and Gakpo has been awful lately. And yes, I’m trying to reverse jinx Gakpo.
MW28 - Too early for a clever title
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KDB threw a fit at coming off but Kovacic has stabilized the midfield a bit. Still feels like we will be lucky to salvage the point but those were a rough 20 minutes post Ederson injury
Doku is lucky he got a sliver of the ball there so he could stab MacAllister in the chest with his cleats.
Liverpool better on the day although with a little luck we’d have nicked it with the two posts. Not been at our best all season and will need to be better to beat Arsenal. Really impressed by Elliott today he put in a serious shift
Incredible match. Great stuff from Liverpool.
On the potential pen, once the player gets the ball you’re just not getting that call, especially with a minute left in a potential title decider. No problem with the ref not making himself the protagonist there on an iffy situation.
On the potential pen, once the player gets the ball you’re just not getting that call, especially with a minute left in a potential title decider. No problem with the ref not making himself the protagonist there on an iffy situation.
I get that it's a big moment but... isn't that what VAR is there for? Catching and determining if the on-field official's reticence to make a game-changing decision was the correct one?
More than anything, I'm just impressed that it only took Stuart Attwell about 10 seconds to arrive at that conclusion.
More than anything, I'm just impressed that it only took Stuart Attwell about 10 seconds to arrive at that conclusion.
as a fellow Arsenal supporter I thought it was a great non-call.
Crazy end to end stuff in that game.. and Liverpool doing this without seven? starters is really impressive stuff. Next couple months are going to be pretty intense with how close the title race is.
I expect the reaction to this to be full on /r/soccer but it’s truly a 50/50 and I don’t think we’d actually want the sport to call that a pen. Mac Allister knows from the bounce and body shape that Doku is shaping to hit that ball and throws himself in vertically hoping to get a call. It’s smart by him and if they had called it you wouldn’t find me saying anything but “play stupid games win stupid prizes” on Doku but he doesn’t make all that much contact in the end and he does at least play the ball. I fully get why a Liverpool fan will want that call and it certainly could have been given but I don’t think this is a miscarriage of justice.
I don’t disagree, cagey by Mac Allister, but reckless is reckless - especially given the ticky tack red cards given on Mac Allister and (especially) Jones earlier this season to cost Liverpool points.
Overall, I can’t help but feel there is a difference in standards at play. Nothing will be done, so why bother? It’s why I’ve skipped the run-in matches the past couple of campaigns, it isn’t worth the extra blood pressure (and I’d rather play golf). Should probably do that for more of the season
Overall, I can’t help but feel there is a difference in standards at play. Nothing will be done, so why bother? It’s why I’ve skipped the run-in matches the past couple of campaigns, it isn’t worth the extra blood pressure (and I’d rather play golf). Should probably do that for more of the season
Yeah, well said.
Football is better if the referee isn’t taking a non-threatening situation and handing a potential title decider to one side based on a player attempting to draw an iffy pen on the follow through of a player that kicked and won the ball.
Lots of stuff is allowed in the box that is a foul anywhere else on the pitch and if that was the criteria for giving pens the game would be silly and clearly worse.
Given the starting 11, if you’d have given me a point I’d of taken it so there’s that. But - Liverpool should have won - they pretty much dominated the second half (after an even first half) and the points were there to be won.
I thought the Doku high boot should have been a PEN - reckless play and I don’t care if he got a touch. If the Ref had given it I doubt it would have been overturned.
Diaz was an interesting combination of amazing and frustrating - he could easily have had a hat trick.
Overall an amazing scintillating game
I thought the Doku high boot should have been a PEN - reckless play and I don’t care if he got a touch. If the Ref had given it I doubt it would have been overturned.
Diaz was an interesting combination of amazing and frustrating - he could easily have had a hat trick.
Overall an amazing scintillating game
I watched the second half again this morning on the treadmill and I can't believe Liverpool didn't win that match.
Liverpool's intensity just left City completely cooked physically by about 55 minutes - a step slow to every second ball, defensive shape and distances totally out of whack, movements not crisp in possession either. It got a little better when they took off KDB, who had no legs whatsoever, and got Bernardo out of the middle. But not that much better. It's rare to see City on the ropes like that, especially when Rodri is in the team.
KDB...yikes. Still an absolute wizard with the ball but he didn't have the legs for this match.
Liverpool's intensity just left City completely cooked physically by about 55 minutes - a step slow to every second ball, defensive shape and distances totally out of whack, movements not crisp in possession either. It got a little better when they took off KDB, who had no legs whatsoever, and got Bernardo out of the middle. But not that much better. It's rare to see City on the ropes like that, especially when Rodri is in the team.
KDB...yikes. Still an absolute wizard with the ball but he didn't have the legs for this match.
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Without Jota and a fully fit Salah, Liverpool lacked its two tired and true finishers. That was the margin of difference. And it might be the factor that swings this title race.
Luton scored 3 goals from 3 shots on target in the first half. Bournemouth have pulled one back through Solanke. Great game, bound to be more goals. Luton fans will be gutted if they don't take all 3 points. If they do they join Forest on 24 points.
Gotta root for Luton here.
Gotta root for Luton here.
Lovely applause on the 59th minute for Tom Lockyer and the medics who saved his life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68559558
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68559558
Bloody Hell it's 2-3 now...come on Luton.