NFL: News and transactions

BigSoxFan

Member
SoSH Member
May 31, 2007
47,890
No free pass on that one. I watched a lot of Gators games that year and the dominance of Dunlap was unquestionable. He just spent so much time in the backfield. Cunningham was a one trick pony. BB must have just fallen in love with the speed. It was great speed but it was the only thing he had. I remember being excited that Dunlap was available and feeling like we missed out when we went with JC.
Didn’t he also have a DUI arrest near the draft along with a meh combine and interviews? I do remember him being mocked in top 10 at some point so he was a perfect guy to gamble on in round 2. D’oh.
 

koufax32

He'll cry if he wants to...
SoSH Member
Dec 8, 2006
9,229
Duval
Didn’t he also have a DUI arrest near the draft along with a meh combine and interviews? I do remember him being mocked in top 10 at some point so he was a perfect guy to gamble on in round 2. D’oh.
In fairness that describes almost every defensive player from those Urban Myer teams.
 

tims4wins

PN23's replacement
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
38,891
Hingham, MA
In fairness that describes almost every defensive player from those Urban Myer teams.
I read some crazy stat about how many of the players on the 2006 (I think) Florida team have been arrested. Can’t remember it exactly but it was bananas.

Edit: it was 41 of 121 on the 2008 team.
 

koufax32

He'll cry if he wants to...
SoSH Member
Dec 8, 2006
9,229
Duval
I read some crazy stat about how many of the players on the 2006 (I think) Florida team have been arrested. Can’t remember it exactly but it was bananas.

Edit: it was 41 of 121 on the 2008 team.
Surprised it’s that low. That doesn’t even take into account that Percy Harvin would punch anyone and everyone in the face when given an opportunity. Teammate, staff, random people in bars, he was an equal opportunity puncher. Absolutely a nut house in Gainesville. Jimmy Johnson’s Hurricanes thought they were out of control.
 

MuzzyField

Well-Known Member
Gold Supporter
SoSH Member
It was Urban un-rule during my last round of studies in Gainesville. Tebow isn't given enough credit for being a diversion to being a diversion to the championship winning dumpster fire.

If we're grading on a curve, Hernandez had already shot a guy in the face before being drafted.
 

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
35,732
Surprised it’s that low. That doesn’t even take into account that Percy Harvin would punch anyone and everyone in the face when given an opportunity. Teammate, staff, random people in bars, he was an equal opportunity puncher. Absolutely a nut house in Gainesville. Jimmy Johnson’s Hurricanes thought they were out of control.
Do you know how hard it is for a big program college athlete to get actually arrested? 41 of 121 is like 119 of 121 for the general populace
 

snowmanny

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 8, 2005
16,155
Surprised it’s that low. That doesn’t even take into account that Percy Harvin would punch anyone and everyone in the face when given an opportunity. Teammate, staff, random people in bars, he was an equal opportunity puncher. Absolutely a nut house in Gainesville. Jimmy Johnson’s Hurricanes thought they were out of control.
And he kept the fun going in the NFL

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/percy-harvin-confirms-he-came-to-blows-with-tate-baldwin-in-seattle/amp
 

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
35,732
I find it hard to believe that someone could be both 315 pounds and shredded. Jacked, sure, but shredded implies cut and idk about all that
He is 6'6", but yeah "shredded" is probably not true. It is about 20lb less than what she was listed at in CHI (so maybe 25 or 30lbs reality) so I'd guess he's looking very lean.
 

67YAZ

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 1, 2000
9,253
He played at about 20-25lbs heavier than that, which suggests he's kept in good shape while recovering this past year. He only played in 30 games over his last 4 seasons, so if his body is right and ready again, he could be a useful pick-up for any number of teams.

In tangentially related news, Bears tagged Allen Robinson. Not a shock, but extension talks broke down during the season. He's probably not happy with the tag, but the Bears desperately needed to hold on to him despite the salary cap crunch it creates. Worth watching if Robinson holds out and/or tries to force a trade.
 

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
35,732
He played at about 20-25lbs heavier than that, which suggests he's kept in good shape while recovering this past year. He only played in 30 games over his last 4 seasons, so if his body is right and ready again, he could be a useful pick-up for any number of teams.

In tangentially related news, Bears tagged Allen Robinson. Not a shock, but extension talks broke down during the season and Robinson asked for a trade. He's probably not happy with the tag, but the Bears desperately needed to hold on to him despite the salary cap crunch it creates. Worth watching if Robinson holds out and/or tries to force a trade.
He actually got down into I think the 270s when he retired, so basically the lineman equivalent of the Gronk move, lose a ton of weight, then put about half of it back on as muscle as you build up to a return.
 

BigJimEd

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 4, 2002
4,500
View: https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1369737810715021319?s=21


This is mystifying. Beau Allen is considered but Elandon Roberts isn’t?
After losing their regular 3rd round, not getting that other 4th really sucks.

OTC had Allen and Roberts counting but not Byrd.
https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/


Lance Zierlein thought it was clear the Patriots would get 3 picks
Projected compensatory picks: One in Round 3, two in Round 4.
Key free-agent losses:Tom Brady (Buccaneers), Kyle Van Noy (Dolphins), Jamie Collins (Lions).
Key free-agent additions: None.
Comp-pick analysis: The formula is very straightforward here, with the Patriots losing five qualifiers and collecting two free agents with very modest contracts to cancel out the lower-end free agents. The contracts for Brady and Van Noy will clearly garner a third-round pick and a fourth-rounder, respectively, while Collins is likely to bring in a fourth.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team-0ap3000001112252
 

BigSoxFan

Member
SoSH Member
May 31, 2007
47,890

mwonow

Member
SoSH Member
Sep 4, 2005
7,296
Dude played 13 games last year. I want to punt this stupid formula.
Can it really be playing time, if Beau Allen figures into the formula? Nobody who watches the Pats even knows if Beau is a real human being. Roberts was a lot more visible.
 

tims4wins

PN23's replacement
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
38,891
Hingham, MA
Can it really be playing time, if Beau Allen figures into the formula? Nobody who watches the Pats even knows if Beau is a real human being. Roberts was a lot more visible.
I read that % of snaps can bump up the value, but does not work in the other direction. Seems like a flaw but maybe not. If Brady (or KVN or Collins) tore their ACL in week 1 should the Pats not have gotten a pick? I’m not sure how I feel about that.
 

mwonow

Member
SoSH Member
Sep 4, 2005
7,296
I read that % of snaps can bump up the value, but does not work in the other direction. Seems like a flaw but maybe not. If Brady (or KVN or Collins) tore their ACL in week 1 should the Pats not have gotten a pick? I’m not sure how I feel about that.
Thanks, I guess that makes sense - at least, to the extent that anything coming out of NFL HQ does.
 

BigJimEd

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 4, 2002
4,500
So let's see if I have this correct. Being on IR does not disqualify someone but being inactive for 3 games does?

That makes no sense to me. I understand the reasoning behind the IR but 13 out of 16 games should not be a disqualification. Take the Brady example mentioned above, except instead of a torn ACL it is a less severe injury that keeps him out for 3 games. Or 2 games and then he sits the last week because it is doesn't matter. Then no comp pick?
 

BaseballJones

ivanvamp
SoSH Member
Oct 1, 2015
25,452
So let's see if I have this correct. Being on IR does not disqualify someone but being inactive for 3 games does?

That makes no sense to me. I understand the reasoning behind the IR but 13 out of 16 games should not be a disqualification. Take the Brady example mentioned above, except instead of a torn ACL it is a less severe injury that keeps him out for 3 games. Or 2 games and then he sits the last week because it is doesn't matter. Then no comp pick?
Yeah that seems like a really big hole in the formula.
 

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
35,732
So let's see if I have this correct. Being on IR does not disqualify someone but being inactive for 3 games does?

That makes no sense to me. I understand the reasoning behind the IR but 13 out of 16 games should not be a disqualification. Take the Brady example mentioned above, except instead of a torn ACL it is a less severe injury that keeps him out for 3 games. Or 2 games and then he sits the last week because it is doesn't matter. Then no comp pick?
No, it appears that the formula is primarily built on contracts, so someone like Brady is a comp pick no matter what, however on some of the edge cases they bump a guy up if he plays enough snaps. So Roberts, whose contract was minimal, might have gotten bumped up to mattering if he played enough snaps.

That makes sense to me, contract is the primary decider, but if you lose a guy to a low contract, but he plays like 40% of his new team's snaps (Roberts was just under) they take into account that perhaps his low salary wasn't reflective and move him in.
 

Mooch

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
4,817
Fisher and Schwartz's injuries probably had something to do with this. My guess is that the Chiefs knew that neither guy would be ready for the start of the season.
 

BigSoxFan

Member
SoSH Member
May 31, 2007
47,890
Fisher and Schwartz's injuries probably had something to do with this. My guess is that the Chiefs knew that neither guy would be ready for the start of the season.
Good move by BB to move on Trent Brown quickly.
 

Average Game James

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 28, 2016
4,492
Fisher and Schwartz's injuries probably had something to do with this. My guess is that the Chiefs knew that neither guy would be ready for the start of the season.
There are some suggestions Schwartz might retire, so that one certainly makes sense. Per Schefter, KC is still $3 million over the cap after the moves.