Think of it this way: There's ZERO chance that they'll ever get as good a playoff performance as Allen gave them these two games, and they didn't even manage to make it to the AFCCG.This is the type of loss that might make it tough for Buffalo to do well next season. Take the wind out of their sails.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/Yeah, Bill the GM has cursed Bill the HC with a (very slow), aging roster. If this is how the Bills and Chiefs are going to look for the next few years, the Pats may as well take their time with the rebuild and hope Kelce and Hill have aged out of their positions and the Bills hit salary cap hell by around, say, the 2025 season.
Thank you for this. So “13 seconds” is the new “wide right”.https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/237832-postgame-thread-dammit/
The best post of the thread: "This loss is on the D."
Review? No, he’s in.
I say it's a catch.
Scrubbing the DVR, there could be an argument that Kelce's left foot was never touching the ground inbounds after re-securing the bobble. It's super close, but I think it's a legit beef.How could this not be a catch
You hate to see it. It's like that's why the NFL gods created them.Hope that's a loss that that franchise never recovers from.
Nope. Nantz is consistent about the rule.The over/under on how many times Nantz refers to this game as the one where the Bills did not get a chance in OT
Zero
Even 10. If still tied play another 10. But make it clock based.I honestly think in the postseason that OT should be a full regular 15 minute quarter.
If they play a full period under 4th quarter rules, then we could see teams make multiple stops! Or not!Or...a team could get a stop.
"Tails"Thank you for this. So “13 seconds” is the new “wide right”.
The year the Cardinals played in the Super Bowl, they had a shootout in the first round against Green Bay that ended when Rodgers was stripped sacked and the fumble was returned for a TD. I'm sure Cardinals fans feared they were going to lose, but their defense made a play after not doing much all game. It happens.If you don't want a coin flip to decide the game, perhaps you should play defense. Just a thought.
None of us are on these teams talking to the press afterwards so we are perfectly free to discuss what the optimal format for OT is without playing this little game.If you don't want a coin flip to decide the game, perhaps you should play defense. Just a thought.
I mean, everyone complaining about how slow and terrible the Patriots defense was this season must not have watched both of these defenses get run over with a goddamn lawnmower.Anybody want to hire Leslie Frazier?
Yeah, but how dumb is it when you can win the champions league on penalties.If you don't want a coin flip to decide the game, perhaps you should play defense. Just a thought.
That was a bunch of crap, because the Cardinals didn't even get a possession in OT. So unfair.The year the Cardinals played in the Super Bowl, they had a shootout in the first round against Green Bay that ended when Rodgers was stripped sacked and the fumble was returned for a TD. I'm sure Cardinals fans feared they were going to lose, but their defense made a play after not doing much all game. It happens.
Is this cricket or rugby you're referring to?Yeah, but how dumb is it when you can win the champions league on penalties.
Just make it based on the clock like the rest of the game.
(Also, make them keep playing til someone scores from open play on the CL)
Is Ben Roethlisberger available?If the Pats are going to compete for an AFC title in the next 3-5 years they are going to need acquire someone like Deshaun Watson. I don't see Mac Jones getting us there after watching these two quarterbacks.
If they didn’t after the Pats did it, why now?
To what? One possession each and the next score wins after that? Because that seems reasonable.
If they were gonna change it, they would’ve after the Pats beat the Chiefs. They’re popping bottles on Park Ave right now.
This is the NFL we are taking about. The same NFL that scrapped PI reviews after one season in which it was clear as day that the officials were sabotaging the PI Reviews.No way that will happen. This game was an all time classic.
I've been saying this for years. Play a ten minute period for all OT games. No weird rules, no changes, just normal play for ten more minutes. I don't see what the downside is.Even 10. If still tied play another 10. But make it clock based.
Ha! Mikeford and I are both active in Gazza so I was hoping to use that logic to help my point.Is this cricket or rugby you're referring to?
all of this is awful - under no circumstances should the pats consider anything like this, especially with WatsonIf the Pats are going to compete for an AFC title in the next 3-5 years they are going to need acquire someone like Deshaun Watson. I don't see Mac Jones getting us there after watching these two quarterbacks.
They want sudden death.I've been saying this for years. Play a ten minute period for all OT games. No weird rules, no changes, just normal play for ten more minutes. I don't see what the downside is.
Yeah I know. That doesn't make it any less dumb.They want sudden death.
The optimal format we came up with in the soccer subforum was to conduct the shootout at the end of regulation to determine the tiebreaker, then play 30 minutes of extra time.Yeah, but how dumb is it when you can win the champions league on penalties.
Just make it based on the clock like the rest of the game.
(Also, make them keep playing til someone scores from open play on the CL)
View: https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1087751408928153600?s=20There’s nothing wrong with the current OT format. Everyone knows the rules. Just hold a team to a FG and you get a shot. That happens all the time during the season.
49ers just took out Rodgers with Deebo and defense. The Pats almost certainly aren't going to field that level of defense in 2022, but there are ways to beat the best offenses in the league without having the ball last in a shootout. Here it will start with a better quarterback than Jimmy Garoppolo and one of the best running attacks in the league.If the Pats are going to compete for an AFC title in the next 3-5 years they are going to need acquire someone like Deshaun Watson. I don't see Mac Jones getting us there after watching these two quarterbacks.
Even worse, imagine when in the middle of the night they reach for the nightstand to get their dildo and it's not there.I get the Chiefs hate. But I feel for Bills and their fans.
After decades of irrelevance they escape the Pats shadow only to suffer that kick in the nuts loss.
And tomorrow they wake up in Buffalo.
fucking nightmare.
That seems like it changes end of game strategy too much and then do you do that in the regular season tooWhy not just continue OT with whichever team has the ball at the end of the 4th? In this case, KC would be kicking off to Buffalo as that would be the next play. Seems silly that a coin gives KC two consecutive possessions.
That would completely change end of game strategy if the score is tied. I like a team having to rush if they have the ball in a tie game with just a few minutes left, if the rules were changed to just continue playing there's be absolutely no urgency when the score is tied.Why not just continue OT with whichever team has the ball at the end of the 4th? In this case, KC would be kicking off to Buffalo as that would be the next play. Seems silly that a coin gives KC two consecutive possessions.
The rule isn't stupid because it gives the coin flip winner a big advantage. It's stupid because it changes the rules of the game at the most crucial time. The goal shouldn't be to make it 50/50. It should be to let the teams play a normal game until a team wins. So this stat doesn't mean anything.View: https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1087751408928153600?s=20
This is a few years old and who knows if it was accurate at the time, but if so, there's no need to change the rules. This is as close to we'll get to 50-50, and a few high profile examples of teams winning on the opening drive doesn't prove otherwise.
Preach.49ers just took out Rodgers with Deebo and defense. The Pats almost certainly aren't going to field that level of defense in 2022, but there are ways to beat the best offenses in the league without having the ball last in a shootout. Here it will start with a better quarterback than Jimmy Garoppolo and one of the best running attacks in the league.
No way should they even think about Watson over Mac.
Not a fan of “tails never fails…”?By the way, what kind of sick twisted demented fucker calls tails?
You only get to complain about overtime rules if you didn’t call it or you called it and called heads.
People who call tails are bad people. It is one of those things in the world that tells you everything you need to know about a person.
Like if a person is a professional clown or mime. You know everything you need to know.
Tails? That was worse than not squibbing. I get that tails comes up as frequently as heads but if you are going to lose the flip lose on fucking heads.
I don’t like the 25 yard line for touchbacks in OT.I don't think 10 minutes is long enough to just play an extra 6th of a game. Getting the ball first would still be an enormous advantage. I almost wonder if it shouldn't be something like both teams get to possess the ball, and because having the ball second then would become a large advantage, whoever has it first starts with better field use position or something.
The NFL has not demonstrated any dissatisfaction with the current rules.This is the NFL we are taking about. The same NFL that scrapped PI reviews after one season in which it was clear as day that the officials were sabotaging the PI Reviews.
also this game was between two “young” franchise QB’s. (Yes the KC/NE was similar).
The NFL has fully embraced gambling since the NE/KC game as well
Wide right, music city miracle, and now 13 seconds.
I think Rick Pitino will appreciate that this may overshadow his "15 seconds" on time-related sports highlights/lowlights.Thank you for this. So “13 seconds” is the new “wide right”.
$50 to the Jimmy Fund if they change the OT rules this offseason.This is the NFL we are taking about. The same NFL that scrapped PI reviews after one season in which it was clear as day that the officials were sabotaging the PI Reviews.
also this game was between two “young” franchise QB’s. (Yes the KC/NE was similar).
The NFL has fully embraced gambling since the NE/KC game as well