Noah's Arc: Song back, assigned to GVL.
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I dunno, it certainly doesn’t seem like he has anywhere close to the stuff needed to pitch in in the bigs now. So maybe a terrible team picks him up, hides him for the rest of the year, gets him a year in the minors next year, and then hopes to have him as a contributing major leaguer in 2025, at which point he is already 28? I am skeptical. This guy has barely pitched in the last 4-5 years, he needs lots of innings.
Also, is it really a “great story” if he makes it back to the Sox? Guessing Noah may disagree.
Also, is it really a “great story” if he makes it back to the Sox? Guessing Noah may disagree.
Oops, sorry, for some reason i thought this was from his last outting, not his first.
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I mean, Bernardino is 31, and is just breaking out. Crazier things have happened.
He doesn't get on the Sox 40 man if he comes back, and likely doesn't get protected this winter, but I agree with those saying a team like the Royals will likely nab him, so it's probably a moot point.
It's super impressive that after such a layoff, he would still be relevant enough to be ranked in the top 50 of the SP list. I think the days of him being a starting prospect are likely over. Give him a full regular off-season and a normalish year next year and he could be an interesting reliever.
The layoff is what screwed him, not Dombrowsi (though I don't know if the Rulve 5 helped).
The layoff is what screwed him, not Dombrowsi (though I don't know if the Rulve 5 helped).
Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but if Song is returned to the Sox, where should we place him? Can the Sox put him in Fort Myers, along with the rest of the 2023 draft class? My thinking is teams could not scout him or evaluate him further before the next Rule V draft.
I mean, this seems pretty obvious, and was a big reason why he slid in the draft to begin with.
His actual playing availability was completely unknown, and unfortunately for Noah Song the baseball player, he lost almost the entirety of his career where most young baseball players are developing.
Bottom line is he’s 26. He’s an extreme long shot to make and stick to any big league roster based on this alone. 26 year old rookies aren’t typically a thing and his stuff isn’t that electric.
It's a cool story with the US Navy being involved. If the military angle wasn't there, he wouldn't even be on "the radar".
And many adults too! (I was a kid too and it really scared me).
No news yet, means he could be headed back to Boston.
Do we have a "DD is just a troll now" file going?
I guess it was maybe worth a shot for Philly, but I dunno. Also not great for Song's development, except for the part where they pulled whatever strings there were to get him freed up in the first place. But on a baseball level this was kind of ridiculous.
I'm sure it can be edited to: "Song got screwed up spending eight months in the Phillies system"
Now if the Sox could only get Groome and Ward back…. or Braiser (ducks)
All joking aside. What a difference Eflin would make if he signed with Tampa North.
All joking aside. What a difference Eflin would make if he signed with Tampa North.
San Diego might wish they could give Groome back for half his pay at this point
Ward's per9 pitching line with the Natinals reads like a slot machine -- 7-7-7 (H-BB-K)
If we can get away from the celebrations: what do people actually foresee for Song's baseball future? His development has been unusual to put it mildly, and he's no kid any more. He's 26 and was getting absolutely torched in both AA and AAA this year, although obviously both were in very small samples.
Do folks think he'll be able to figure something out?
Do folks think he'll be able to figure something out?
Are there examples of players who didn’t pitch at all for four years and were successful? Maybe Matt Bush, Ron Mahay? It has to be really difficult to miss that much development time, especially at the beginning of your career.
He’s pitched 28 pro innings from age 22-26.
Bush, for sure. Mahay came up as an OFer and then went back to the minors to learn to pitch, I don't think he had a gap in pitching professionally.
Losing out on your age 23-26 seasons is going to be insanely difficult to overcome.
The thread really should be renamed to "Noah's Arc" since this has developed into quite the drama.
I think he's got a better shot at it with the regular minor league path, than he did with this year's clusterfuck.
His age is really only relevant to him at this point; how old a minor leaguer does he want to be? Look at a guys like Brasier or Bernardino, not finding MLB success til age 30. He's taking up a spot in the organization, but if he's willing to have a regular minor league year, maybe it works. Its a longshot.
EDIT: As noted above, of course, those guys were pitching the whole time. Song has not been.
AAA is a bit of a surprise to me, thought they'd start him off lower. Wonder what the reasoning was for that level.
The soxprospects guys said they'd rank him somewhere in the 40s. They're not the final arbiter of such things, but they've got a decent handle on it IMO and that would seemingly put him in the "longshot but you never know" category, which sounds about right.
There is a chance that they will be losing 3 pitchers quite soon and not all will be replaced internally. Maybe its that simple?
Geez, Mahay ended up with a 14 year career as a pitcher, with more than 500 games. Mamas let your boys grow up to be southpaws.
Could be, though I'm hoping the reasons are more developmental and less "we need a body with an arm on it over here" for him specifically. He's got a lot of ground to make up.
Both good examples.
Bob Feller missed his age 23-25 seasons due to military service. Warren Spahn missed ages 22-24.
So, that’s something!