Odell Beckham Jr.

[Kevin Youkulele]

Completely agree. It's really not a hard or violent shove. He just lets go of a guy who is whining and begging for a flag. They engaged each other at the same time and were giving the same pushing/fighting until Beckham started crying. I don't think keeping the flag in the pocket there is really all that egregious

You have a funny definition of "just lets go." At the very least, I see Norman exerting himself to have a firm grasp of Beckham, get him off his feet and then release him so he hits the ground. I think Norman also throws/forces him toward the ground in this process, although the amount of force is debatable.

As to the stuff during the play - it's small on this video but it looks like unremarkable hand-fighting to me.

 

[mauidano]

So tomorrow afternoon OBJ will have his hearing and in all likelihood the one game suspension will stand. Whatever. It's not like the Giants are really gonna make the playoffs; sure there is an outside chance but probably not. Going forward now, OBJ will learn from this and develop deafness with opposing players or he is gonna be toast in this league. If that continues to be a weakness, you know that every DB that lines up against him will be trash talking him incessantly with words and phrases you can't even imagine.

 

[mulluysavage]

I love watching him play, I didn't love his cheap shot on Sunday. I like that Coughlin stood up for him while condemning his actions. It makes more sense to me now, in light of the rumors about his sexuality. It doesn't matter if he's gay or not. Finnegan's comments are disgusting. These guys are patrolling the gender normative boundaries of the sport, and of men, possibly with bats. Fuck them. Suspend them for their bullshit comments.

"I will not defend his actions (Sunday) because they were wrong," Coughlin said Monday. "This particular franchise and organization does not tolerate that. So I would not do that. But I will defend the young man and the quality of the person. I will defend him as long as I'm able and I told our team that. Our team feels the same way."

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4688825-he-said-what-tom-coughlin-odell-beckham-jr-josh-norman-giants-panthers-kirk-cousins

 

[dcmissle]

"Suspend them for their comments."

So tomorrow afternoon OBJ will have his hearing and in all likelihood the one game suspension will stand. Whatever. It's not like the Giants are really gonna make the playoffs; sure there is an outside chance but probably not. Going forward now, OBJ will learn from this and develop deafness with opposing players or he is gonna be toast in this league. If that continues to be a weakness, you know that every DB that lines up against him will be trash talking him incessantly with words and phrases you can't even imagine.

This is right. The fulfillment of his career potential very much depends on growing a thicker skin. He has hurt himself and his team -- the suspension quite probably gets upheld by Thrash tomorrow -- and revealed a vulnerability that will be preyed on without mercy going forward. The answer is simple but not easy -- channel the anger in a disciplined way.

 

[BigJimEd]

So tomorrow afternoon OBJ will have his hearing and in all likelihood the one game suspension will stand. Whatever. It's not like the Giants are really gonna make the playoffs; sure there is an outside chance but probably not. Going forward now, OBJ will learn from this and develop deafness with opposing players or he is gonna be toast in this league. If that continues to be a weakness, you know that every DB that lines up against him will be trash talking him incessantly with words and phrases you can't even imagine.

All he should do is show the Wallace hit and ask why only the lesser hit that didn't knock a player out of the game deserves a suspension.
League office is such a joke. They could not care less about the hit. Only the media attention. If they were worried about safety, Wallace would be sitting out as well.

 

[curly2]

To clarify:

ODB=Ol' Dirty Bastard
OBJ=Odell Beckham, Jr.

 

[86spike]

All he should do is show the Wallace hit and ask why only the lesser hit that didn't knock a player out of the game deserves a suspension.
League office is such a joke. They could not care less about the hit. Only the media attention. If they were worried about safety, Wallace would be sitting out as well.

For the record, David Bruton (who got whacked by Wallace on that late hit) did not leave the game. He played the whole game with a broken fibula (likely broken before that late hit). Dude is tough.

 

[E5 Yaz]

So where the fuck was Blandino in all of this? This was a story that was overshadowing other games by the first half. Doesn't he have a mechanism to tel the game referee s they need to get control of this shit either during the first half or during the halftime break? I would hope that game management is just as big a part of the league office's in game input to the refs as individual play clarification.

Dean Blandino said he reminded referee Terry McAulay during the Carolina Panthers-New York Giants game on Sunday that he was allowed to eject players.
The NFL vice president of officiating said on NFL Network Tuesday night he delivered the message to the replay official at the stadium via headset and told him to relay the message.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2015/12/22/odell-beckham-ejection-dean-blandino/77785376/

 

[Average Reds]

All he should do is show the Wallace hit and ask why only the lesser hit that didn't knock a player out of the game deserves a suspension.
League office is such a joke. They could not care less about the hit. Only the media attention. If they were worried about safety, Wallace would be sitting out as well.

Could not agree with this any more.

The most distressing part of this entire thing is seeing all the discussion about rumors and bats drown out the discussion of the violence of Beckham's hit, which in turn gave the media a license to pretend that the Wallace hit never happened.

What Wallace did was arguably worse than what Beckham did. For him not to sit for at least a game is inexplicable.

 

[BigJimEd]

For the record, David Bruton (who got whacked by Wallace on that late hit) did not leave the game. He played the whole game with a broken fibula (likely broken before that late hit). Dude is tough.

Thanks for the correction. I thought I heard/read he missed the game. My mistake.
That is pretty tough.

Still feel the Wallace hit was worse (edit: worse NOT wise) and the league is singling out Beckham. I think Beckham probably deserves a suspension but so do others.

 

[glennhoffmania]

The videos of the Wallace hit have been removed everywhere I look. Anyone know a site that still has it up?

 

[rembrat]

The videos of the Wallace hit have been removed everywhere I look. Anyone know a site that still has it up?

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWs4xPUUEAAiRZf.mp4

 

[johnmd20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWs4xPUUEAAiRZf.mp4

That is an incredibly cheap shot.

 

[pappymojo]

That should be a two game suspension.

 

[Dehere]

Dean Blandino said he reminded referee Terry McAulay during the Carolina Panthers-New York Giants game on Sunday that he was allowed to eject players.
The NFL vice president of officiating said on NFL Network Tuesday night he delivered the message to the replay official at the stadium via headset and told him to relay the message.

WTF is Blandino doing? Say something snarky and condescending to one of your officials during a game and then tell USA Today about it....sounds like a great way to lose the confidence of the people you're supposed to be leading.

McAulay should have ejected OBJ, I certainly agree. But this is a horrible way to manage people in public.

 

[BigSoxFan]

This also begs the question of what else Blandino is "reminding" officials during the game. Is there a single competent worker in that entire office?

 

[DJnVa]

EDIT: Saw additional info

 

[loshjott]

In that article Blandino said Norman should have been ejected along with Beckham. So why didn't the NFL suspend Norman for a game also?

 

[86spike]

That should be a two game suspension.

not even a fine so far.

And to make it worse, Wallace claims he did it because Denver's Malik Jackson hit Antonio Brown late:

"You know, their guy kind of took a shot at AB, so we really couldn't let that fly," Wallace said. "That's the way it's going to go. But that's not right."

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/ESPN-Steelers-Cody-Wallace-to-receive-hefty-fine-for-late-hit-42194308

So he admits his intent and no suspension? Jackson hits Brown during that play while Brown is still on his feet. Completely clean and legal.

 

[Reardon's Beard]

Wallace should get tossed.

 

[glennhoffmania]

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWs4xPUUEAAiRZf.mp4

Thanks.

Wow that's pretty bad. This league is a total joke.

 

[kenneycb]

In that article Blandino said Norman should have been ejected along with Beckham. So why didn't the NFL suspend Norman for a game also?

Because sometimes that's all the punishment you need. They didn't do the same stuff out there.

 

[Spelunker]

This is like the one time you can call a guy twinkle toes and get away with it--I think it's pretty widely understood to be a homophobic comment, but then again Beckham had fucking xmas lights on his shoes.

Thanks.

Wow that's pretty bad. This league is a total joke.

A good vine of it:

 

[jablo1312]

Nobody else has it yet, and I don't even know if the appeal has been fully heard yet, but former NYG kicker Lawrence Tynes is "reporting" that Beckham's suspension has been overturned.


"BREAKING NEWS- Odell Beckham Jr. 1 game suspension has been overturned. Beckham Jr. available for Sunday Night vs Vikings"

 

[bankshot1]

pathetic.

First Coughlin enables OBJ's behavior and now the league?

 

[LesterFan]

Lawrence Tynes is a troll. I'd wait for official word.

 

[djbayko]

WTF is Blandino doing? Say something snarky and condescending to one of your officials during a game and then tell USA Today about it....sounds like a great way to lose the confidence of the people you're supposed to be leading.

McAulay should have ejected OBJ, I certainly agree. But this is a horrible way to manage people in public.

Seriously. This makes the whole "in their ear" thing seem less about getting things right and more about Blandino CYA job protection (even if it isn't).

 

[Mooch]

Nobody else has it yet, and I don't even know if the appeal has been fully heard yet, but former NYG kicker Lawrence Tynes is "reporting" that Beckham's suspension has been overturned.


"BREAKING NEWS- Odell Beckham Jr. 1 game suspension has been overturned. Beckham Jr. available for Sunday Night vs Vikings"

I'm waiting for confirmation from Matt Bahr's Twitter account.

 

[Jack Sox]

woah... if that's true, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes.

 

[DJnVa]

How would Tynes have this info before anyone else?

 

[Corsi]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 54s54 seconds ago
Odell Beckham Jr.'s appeal ended about 1:25 or so. Would be a surprise if there were not a verdict before tonight.

 

[Corsi]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
The appeals hearing for #Giants WR Odell Beckham has ended. Expect a verdict as soon as possible. The hope is today.

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

How would Tynes have this info before anyone else?

He was recently hired by Sharks of Vegas.

 

[Corsi]

So the hearing just ended, and the NFL immediately tweets this out:

NFL Football Ops ‏@NFLFootballOps 49s50 seconds ago
.@NFL VP of #Officiating @DeanBlandino discusses @OBJ_3's 1-game suspension for violation of player safety rules:

 

[bsj]

Ron Jaworski ‏@jawsespn 5m5 minutes agoNFL Films
BREAKING NEWS: Odell Beckham suspension to be OVERTURNED! (Per sources in NYC) Wow!

 

[soxhop411]

I am shocked that the NFL overturned the suspension. shocked! <sarcasm>. So much for the integrity of the game.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

That is an incredibly cheap shot.

Was good to see his teammates stand up for him after getting drilled at least.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

A good vine of it:

Dear god. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that with their heads both down like that either of them could have been paralyzed.

 

[C4CRVT]

Guess the joke's on us for continuing to watch this league.

 

[bsj]

They'd NEVER!

Mike Loyko‏@NEPD_Loyko
Sounds like NFL is leaking the overturning of the suspension to random level sources to gauge public outcry, before making ultimate ruling.

 

[ifmanis5]

They didn't leak the fines to Norman, just went ahead and did it.

 

[86spike]

They'd NEVER!

Mike Loyko‏@NEPD_Loyko
Sounds like NFL is leaking the overturning of the suspension to random level sources to gauge public outcry, before making ultimate ruling.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Player safety isn't an important issue. This frees up the league to go after real criminals like people who deflate footballs.

 

[pappymojo]

Goodell: I do not give preferential treatment to any owners.
Mara: Roger, overturn this.
Goodell: Sure thing boss.

 

[bankshot1]

that must be some marker the Maras and Rooneys are holding

 

[johnmd20]

I love that it was leaked to Tynes. That's tremendous. The NFL, where no secret is safe and everything is run perfectly.

 

[Jack Sox]

Goodell: I do not give preferential treatment to any owners.
Mara: Roger, overturn this.
Goodell: Sure thing boss.

What if the conversation was really more like this?
Mara: Roger, we had an event on Sunday where our players ran through a gauntlet of inner city LGBT youth in collaboration with the You Can Play organization. We have multiple witnesses having observed a Carolina player yelling homophobic slurs and making threats to end the career of Odell Beckham Jr. while holding a baseball bat. Is this a road we really need to be going down?
Roger: you know, we could turn this into another -gate
Mara: Roger, this is not playing to your strength.

 

[Stitch01]

I mean flip a coin. Suh's got overturned, Talib's got upheld. There's never been rhyme or reason for what the NFL does or whether their discipline gets upheld, why start now?

End result is two vicious cheap shots this weekend, zero games suspended. Good thing they didn't deflate footballs or attempt to wear non-sanctioned cleats in a playoff game.

 

[bankshot1]

I don't know why him getting off is pissing me off, but it is.
OBJ was a lunatic, and out of control for most of that game. No slur or words no matter how hurtful, should entitle one man to intentionally try to hurt another in the game.

 

[Oil Can Dan]

Seemed like more than just hurtful words and slurs to me. Seemed like it was that plus cheap shots during the game coupled with a lack of protection from the refs. What Beckham did was absolutely wrong, but there were many extenuating circumstances that should not be ignored IMO.