I want the Pats to show great interest in Harrison and Daniels. I want them to take Daniels but see if ARI is willing to move up and tack on a second round pick to get Harrison.
He'd get tagged.He’s an unrestricted FA in 2024, he’d come here for $$$
Ok. So the franchise with whom he just beat the defending NFC champions in the wild card round, which has plenty of cap space, are not going to offer him $$$ but the team with the worst record in AFC and a million other holes to fill will?He’s an unrestricted FA in 2024, he’d come here for $$$
Think it’s him over Evans? The QB tag is massive, and we’re talking about Baker Mayfield. Maybe the have to, I guess.He'd get tagged.
Probably yeah. Most likely they work out an extension then tag Evans, but if they have to they'll tag Mayfield and risk losing Evans rather than the other way around.Think it’s him over Evans? The QB tag is massive, and we’re talking about Baker Mayfield. Maybe the have to, I guess.
This is the same kid that meditates in plain view of the press before every game right?I watched the team a ton (wolverine fan/alum so I’m also biased)…he’s had great lines and running games and an elite pass catching tight end in Loveland…but his receivers are nfl jags at best. Also, the offense is very much a pro offense - if he played at, say, Oklahoma or usc, he’d put up massive numbers. He can run and throw accurately on the run and he’s highly dedicated kid. I think he’d work his ass off, and his talent is real. He’s 20 and a far better player than penix or nix was at the same age.
None of what is written here is a legitimate argument against taking JJ McCarthy. Like you don't even address his athletic ability or the raft of other things we talk about when discussing QB prospects. What if he turns out to be the next great QB who just happens to meditate under goal posts? You are ok passing on a kid because they are figuring stuff out on a big stage? You would miss a lot of very talented athletes using this approach imo.This is the same kid that meditates in plain view of the press before every game right?
Please, no.
Not that there’s anything wrong with meditating. I partake myself from time to time. But no one actually looking to clear their mind would ever for one second do it right in front of all the cameras unless they did it as sort of a PR stunt.
This will sound short and rude but after Mac’s breathing exercises between drives I think I just want a QB that is built right out of the gate to handle the pressure of playing in arguably the most visible, high-pressure position in American sports.
I mean... Brady is a weirdo who believes in concussion water and dubious diet stuff, Rodgers is a nutcase.... lots of the best QBs are weirdos in one way or another.None of what is written here is a legitimate argument against taking JJ McCarthy. Like you don't even address his athletic ability or the raft of other things we talk about when discussing QB prospects. What if he turns out to be the next great QB who just happens to meditate under goal posts? You are ok passing on a kid because they are figuring stuff out on a big stage? You would miss a lot of very talented athletes using this approach imo.
Yes, I’d rather take Williams, Maye, or Daniels.None of what is written here is a legitimate argument against taking JJ McCarthy. Like you don't even address his athletic ability or the raft of other things we talk about when discussing QB prospects. What if he turns out to be the next great QB who just happens to meditate under goal posts? You are ok passing on a kid because they are figuring stuff out on a big stage? You would miss a lot of very talented athletes using this approach imo.
Or it could be just that he won't let the press dictate whether or not he follows an effective routine that helps him perform at his best.This is the same kid that meditates in plain view of the press before every game right?
Please, no.
Not that there’s anything wrong with meditating. I partake myself from time to time. But no one actually looking to clear their mind would ever for one second do it right in front of all the cameras unless they did it as sort of a PR stunt.
This will sound short and rude but after Mac’s breathing exercises between drives I think I just want a QB that is built right out of the gate to handle the pressure of playing in arguably the most visible, high-pressure position in American sports.
I understand that but you stated that the reason you don't like McCarthy is that he was virtue meditating or something along those lines. My question is, what if he does that and adds in Mac Jones breathing exercises and then balls the hell out? Or is that impossible?Yes, I’d rather take Williams, Maye, or Daniels.
Or it’s a PR stunt and a way to try to stand out amid coverage of dozens of other “high profile” college football quarterbacks. Which takes attention away from his team and puts it squarely on himself before every game.Or it could be just that he won't let the press dictate whether or not he follows an effective routine that helps him perform at his best.
No one said he won’t or can’t ball out. Save the strawman for another day.I understand that but you stated that the reason you don't like McCarthy is that he was virtue meditating or something along those lines. My question is, what if he does that and adds in Mac Jones breathing exercises and then balls the hell out? Or is that impossible?
I simply don't see what meditating on the field has to do with ability, especially after the guy went out and won the national championship. I don't know if he will be a good NFL QB - I don't think anyone in the NFL knows for most of these players - but I sure as hell am not ruling him out versus a bunch of other flawed prospects because of his rituals.
There was no straw-man here - I asked a legitimate question which you answered.No one said he won’t or can’t ball out. Save the strawman for another day.
It’s a selfish character flaw (doing that to grab the attention of the press prior to games) that only the most gullible buy into.
Yes, character and whether a guy tries to steal the spotlight from the team matters. You can think it’s harmless, while I will continue to think the average NFL player would see him do that, think he’s a clown, and cease to take him seriously unless he’s balling out like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, which has an incredibly low probability.There was no straw-man here - I asked a legitimate question which you answered.
You don't care if JJ McCarthy will be a good NFL QB - you just don't like him. And anyone who does or looks past his meditation or habits or whatever is gullible.
I agree. He definitely hurt his college team with his antics this year.Yes, character and whether a guy tries to steal the spotlight from the team matters. You can think it’s harmless, while I will continue to think the average NFL player would see him do that, think he’s a clown, and cease to take him seriously unless he’s balling out like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, which has an incredibly low probability.
I’d rather just draft the guys that meditate at home or somewhere remote, in a quiet space, alone, as you’re generally instructed to when engaging in mindfulness activities, and focus on football when they step onto the field.
He’s building a brand and using pre-game coverage to do it, which, IMO, is not the kind of person I’d want to see “leading” a NFL team.
The thing is, I don't know JJ McCarthy or any of his teammates so I cannot speak to any of this. It would be interesting to understand how you arrived at the opinion that he is stealing someone else's spotlight (as every football fan knows from an early age, for better or worse the QB is the face of your team) or that contemporary NFL football players think that his pregame rituals are that of a clown.Yes, character and whether a guy tries to steal the spotlight from the team matters. You can think it’s harmless, while I will continue to think the average NFL player would see him do that, think he’s a clown, and cease to take him seriously unless he’s balling out like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, which has an incredibly low probability.
I’d rather just draft the guys that meditate at home or somewhere remote, in a quiet space, alone, as you’re generally instructed to when engaging in mindfulness activities, and focus on football when they step onto the field.
He’s building a brand and using pre-game coverage to do it, which, IMO, is not the kind of person I’d want to see “leading” a NFL team.
I mean with teammates that gullible it’s no wonder Michigan went nowhere this year.I agree. He definitely hurt his college team with his antics this year.
It's not like he played in front of 100k fans every week though.I mean with teammates that gullible it’s no wonder Michigan went nowhere this year.
What a weird post, but now I’m curious.I’m sure that’ll be a guy teams filled with players from inner cities that grew up experiencing all sorts of hardship will find relatable and rally behind.
Again, please just draft guys that are good teammates without baggage/drama/PR stunts.
That's a weird take. The Florida Gators loved Tebow. The Pats loved Brady. I mean, maybe they didn't meditate, but still...And why do kids from inner cities, even ones that have faced hardships, find themselves unable to rally behind a person because they meditate, while people from other backgrounds don’t have that issue?
So cool was Brady before the game, he walked off the field after warmups, stretched out on the floor in front of his locker and took a nap. Actually fell asleep. Before the biggest game of his life.
“Drew was [lying] right next to me,” he said. “I laid down and was looking up at the ceiling and I just fell asleep.”
Where did you grow up?What a weird post, but now I’m curious.
Why do you think NFL rosters are filled with “inner city” kids that faced all sorts of hardship? And why do kids from inner cities, even ones that have faced hardships, find themselves unable to rally behind a person because they meditate, while people from other backgrounds don’t have that issue?
There is also the 5th year option.Isn't Fields in the last year of his rookie contract? If so, that means they get one "free" year then have to pay him on 2nd contract, somewhere in 20-25 mil range. Which seems like a massive overpay for a guy who is unlikely to ever be a top 15 QB. And if he doesn't work out, you've spent valuable draft capital, spun your wheels for another year, and passed up a shot at a possible star. Makes no sense to me.
When has Fields ever been a top 15 QB? He’s been near the very bottom by most statistical measures.There is also the 5th year option.
And I would not agree with the statement he's not likely to ever be a Top 15 QB. I think he already has been.
I think we can put the speculation about a WR or OT to bed
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I mean the thing is.... there is zero reason you pick anything other than QB at 3. If you aren't picking QB, someone will want to, and no other position has the value that getting the #1 player (WR, OT, even Edge) is worth more than the 2nd best option (or best at one of the others) and the value a QB tradeup adds.Eh. He's either putting his cards on the table or making a market for the pick. And for all we know they think Penix or McCarthy are better than what's left after the first two picks.
They're unlikely to hire a GM at all, but I doubt they bring in someone before the draft who has final call, that pick will be whichever of Groh/Wolf is made final decision maker for draft mattersI would expect the GM-to-be-named later has some input. Unless it's a hiring condition that we take Daniels over MHJ
Right bc there’s no pressure arriving at Michigan as the savior after losing to Ohio st a billion years in a rowThis is the same kid that meditates in plain view of the press before every game right?
Please, no.
Not that there’s anything wrong with meditating. I partake myself from time to time. But no one actually looking to clear their mind would ever for one second do it right in front of all the cameras unless they did it as sort of a PR stunt.
This will sound short and rude but after Mac’s breathing exercises between drives I think I just want a QB that is built right out of the gate to handle the pressure of playing in arguably the most visible, high-pressure position in American sports.
It IS a bit of a PR stunt bc he said he wants people to see the value of meditation, which has helped him a lot. It has NOTHING to do with being a distraction or putting the team number 2. This is a kid who threw the ball far less than his peers and never complained once - all about what’s right for the team. He didn’t throw the ball the whole second half vs Penn state and was as pumped as ever about getting the WOr it’s a PR stunt and a way to try to stand out amid coverage of dozens of other “high profile” college football quarterbacks. Which takes attention away from his team and puts it squarely on himself before every game.
Football stadiums have 1-2 MILLION square feet of empty space before games. But he decides to align his chakras below the field goal posts just when press access becomes available in the stadium.
I’m sure that’ll be a guy teams filled with players from inner cities that grew up experiencing all sorts of hardship will find relatable and rally behind.
Again, please just draft guys that are good teammates without baggage/drama/PR stunts.
This is among the most absurd arguments I’ve seen on here in a long time. There are valid reasons to not want to draft JJ, but character is at the bottom of the list. This is a kid that used NIL money to donate to children’s hospitals near each road game- something not publicized much at all. Maybe that’s why he needs to meditate publicly to build more brand awareness!No one said he won’t or can’t ball out. Save the strawman for another day.
It’s a selfish character flaw (doing that to grab the attention of the press prior to games) that only the most gullible buy into.
Weird, I'm Catholic and I meditate. We get it, you hate JJ McCarthy. You really don't need to keep making up excuses for irrational hatred. Lots of Sox fans here, we all understand irrational hatred.I apologize I offended so many of you.
Taoism between the goalposts, in front of the cameras, for all the world to see. Definitely not cultural appropriation or anything. Maybe we can get some meditating bobbleheads cooked up in time for draft day! #authenticity
What a copout. The old sorry you were offended BS and doubling down on the snark.I apologize I offended so many of you.
Taoism between the goalposts, in front of the cameras, for all the world to see. Definitely not cultural appropriation or anything. Maybe we can get some meditating bobbleheads cooked up in time for draft day! #authenticity
Yeah but does he know the hit rate on QBs drafted #3???I think we can put the speculation about a WR or OT to bed
View: https://twitter.com/mikekadlick/status/1747758593649074219
I felt remiss by not mentioning in my earlier post that Fields seems to be a model professional. There aren’t any leaks and “team sources” here comparing about Fields’ attitude ot work ethic. Everyone seems to really respect the guy and talk up his leadership, hard work, and dedication.There is also the 5th year option.
And I would not agree with the statement he's not likely to ever be a Top 15 QB. I think he already has been.