One Strike and You're Out: The 2015 MLS In-Season Thread

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https://twitter.com/andrewdasnyt/status/601064189835223040
 
 
Take that, Miami Beckhams!
 
 
Beckham's MLS bid isn't looking good.  I suspect the only reason why MLS is putting on a brave face about it is that the bid's chances of success will collapse entirely if the league shows any wavering in support.  I'm guessing that MLS HQ doesn't love how they increasingly sound like Baghdad Bob and consequently, I'm guessing that Beckham's clock is winding down.
 
Also remember that Beckham's bid comes from the ownership clause in the contract he signed in 2007.....I would not be surprised if MLS is legally obligated to support the bid for a certain period of time.
 
Putting a team in Miami is an interesting/strange move for the NASL because they already have a team in Fort Lauderdale.  To my knowledge, no minor league has ever pulled off having two teams in one metro area effectively.  Everything hinges on how well Miami FC executes and it will be far, far from easy.  Miami's a bad sports market, selling minor league soccer will be tough, the Strikers will compete for fans, and I have no idea where they'll play.  And if MLS ever works something out in the market, it's over for NASL Miami, if not for NASL FTL as well.
 
There was a fantastic atmosphere at RBA in the first "Hudson River Derby" or whatever it is going to be called.  Building a similar rivalry in South Florida in a minor league is much more challenging, but it's an interesting experiment I suppose.  Also, the NASL's leadership has a real chip on their shoulder vis a vis MLS, and they probably couldn't resist the opportunity to stick their finger in MLS' eye in Miami.
 
There would be tons of local games in Florida, at least, with teams in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa Bay, and Jacksonville.  Jax leads the NASL in attendance with 10k+ so far, FTL is more than doubling last year's number so far at 7k+, Tampa is over 6k+.  Add in Orlando in MLS and Florida....I never knew you had it in you.  Can NASL Miami do it too?  We'll need to see how the team rolls everything out before we can make a solid guess.
 

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https://twitter.com/GalindoPW/status/601067479780225024
 
 
 
That's a pretty weak $$$/win correlation.  Not shocking when much of the $$$ can only go to three players.  Splashing the cash must be done carefully, lest you build a team that does not have a good enough supporting cast or depth.  See: Toronto.  And this season, NYCFC.
 

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The Revs are in Kansas City for a midweek ESPN2 game tonight.  Heaps has rotated the squad - Davies, Bunbury, Tierney, Shuttleworth are on the bench.  Farrell isn't in the 18, I'm not sure what that's about.  I'd like to see what Agudelo does up top; I'm also glad to see Fagundez get a shot in the starting lineup after consistently looking good off the bench.
 
Agudelo​
Rowe, Nguyen, Fagundez​
Caldwell, Dorman​
Alston, Goncalves, Jones, Woodberry​
Knighton​
 
Subs: Shuttleworth, Tierney, Hall, Neumann, Bunbury, Davies, Okoli
 
 
KC is hobbled at the moment, only able to muster 17 players for the squad.  They are missing Graham Zusi and have a makeshift backline - Besler is really the only solid player in defense for them tonight, something that should be exploited.  KC can be a tough place to play, but I think there's opportunity tonight.  After leaving points on the table @Orlando and v. Toronto, it would be nice to get the win.
 

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Wish I'd known, would have had the Ole philly dc bash with, you know, two people.

Such a fucking depressing situation in philly. Nice for a night (thanks for that) on what was a great night of soccer, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, sheesh... it just never gets better, they always find something else to make it just that little bit worse.
Must be a frustrating season, they looked really good (albeit against a tired and undermanned D.C. squad) but all those ties have to be maddening. Also apparently our disallowed goal should have counted buy I never saw the replay.

It was my first time in an actual soccer stadium and now I can't wait to see ours. It has a nice mix of rowdy soccer atmosphere and minor league baseball game, with no bad seats as far as I could tell (they obviously stuck us high up in the corner but the view was still great). I've always liked the charming dump that is RFK, but wow, they can't move out of there soon enough.
 

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Ridiculous flick by Agudelo to Woodberry, who hits a sweet cross to Fagundez, but he pushes it out wide.  Ouch.  Beautiful build up though.
 
but now Rowe to Agudelo for the 1-0!
 

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1-1, Dwyer.  Jones beaten badly, and not for the first time.  He must be injured - he's been one of the weakest players on the field for the Revs tonight.
 

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Get Jones out of CB.  He wasn't good in midfield last week either, but still.  
 
No CBs on the bench....we'd have to bring in Hall and move Woodberry inside.
 
This team desperately needs another decent CB in the summer window.  We're the wrong injury away from catastrophe.
 

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Soft PK call, but the ref swallowed his whistle on a borderline case earlier.
 
What a clusterfuck.
 

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Unbelievable how bad Jones has been this half.  Packwood must have been really pathetic in training for them not to think he was worth a spot on this roster.  
 
That reaction from Heaps was basically how I feel.  
 

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That reaction from Heaps was basically how I feel.  
 
Yep:
 
https://twitter.com/Ben_Jata/status/601190761988792320
 

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Had to miss this match to finish up some work tonight. Looking at the scoreline, glad I did.
 
Not optimistic about Saturday either. The Revs haven't lost at home in nearly a year, but going up against 1st place DC after a midweek game is going to be very tough.
 

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I might have asked this earlier but are any Revs supporters coming to Portland in a few weeks for the match on June 6th?  I'm not in a position to offer a place to say but I'd buy a beer or three for anyone that come out here.  And really so would a lot of Timbers fans, as long as you don't root for Seattle you are more than welcome in our city.  We'll show you around to all the great breweries, strip clubs and other cool things in Portland.
 

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Jermaine Jones has two "go to" moves at CB.  Watch from two yards away as the offensive player runs past him or make a last second desperation slide.  Both are not endearing traits for a CB.  
 

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The 2nd round of the US Open Cup wrapped up yesterday.  All 21 matches were USL vs. amateurs and the amateurs went 4-1-16 (one win on PKs).
 
PSA Elite beat the Orange County Blues.  Ventura County Fusion beat LA Galaxy II, Chula Vista FC beat Arizona United SC, Jersey Express SC beat NYRB II, and Chattanooga FC beat the Wilmington Hammerheads on penalties.
 
3rd round is set:
All 9 American NASL teams
16/21 American USL
2 PDL
1 NPSL
2 USASA
 
 
Harrisburg City Islanders (USL) vs. Rochester Rhinos (USL)
Richmond Kickers (USL) vs. Jacksonville Armada (NASL)
Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL) vs. Tampa Bay Rowdies (NASL)
Chattanooga FC (NPSL) vs. Atlanta Silverbacks (NASL)
Carolina Railhawks (NASL) vs. Charlotte Independence (USL)
Charleston Battery (USL) vs. Fort Lauderdale Strikers (NASL)
Indy Eleven (NASL) vs. Louisville City (USL)
New York Cosmos (NASL) vs. Jersey Express (PDL)
Saint Louis FC (USL) vs. Minnesota United (NASL)
Tulsa Roughnecks (USL) vs. Oklahoma City Energy (USL)
San Antonio Scorpions (NASL) vs. Austin Aztex (USL)
Real Monarchs SLC (USL) vs. Colorado Springs Switchbacks (USL)
Ventura County Fusion (PDL) vs. PSA Elite (USASA)
Sacramento Republic (USL) vs. Chula Vista FC (USASA)
Seattle Sounders 2 (USL) vs. Portland Timbers 2 (USL)
 
 
Heavy regionalization to cut down on travel and put local rivals together, which makes for some interesting matchups, particularly the NASL vs. USL ones.  There isn't a lot of love lost between the two pro minor leagues.
 
Ventura County and PSA Elite drawn together means that one amateur team will survive to play against an MLS team.
 

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I would love, LOVE, to see the Cosmos break through and draw a matchup against one of the NY MLS sides.  Or any MLS club, really. 
 

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I would love, LOVE, to see the Cosmos break through and draw a matchup against one of the NY MLS sides.  Or any MLS club, really. 
 
They beat the Red Bulls last year:
 
http://thecup.us/2014/06/15/2014-us-open-cup-round-4-new-york-cosmos-dominate-red-bulls-in-long-awaited-gotham-derby-video/
 
 
 
The draw for the fourth round is supposed to be announced tonight.  Very good chance that the Cosmos will be paired with NYCFC or RBNY if they get past their PDL opposition.
 

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And the Cosmos will host NYCFC if they advance to the next round.
 
The Revs host the winner of Carolina and Charlotte.  Let's have another Harvard soccer stadium game, please!!
 
The one all-MLS game in the fourth round is Seattle vs. Portland.  That'll be fun.
 
 
EDIT: the draw lists the Revs game at Soldiers Field Soccer Stadium.  Woo!
 

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https://twitter.com/andrewdasnyt/status/601064189835223040
 
 
Take that, Miami Beckhams!
 
 
Beckham's MLS bid isn't looking good.  I suspect the only reason why MLS is putting on a brave face about it is that the bid's chances of success will collapse entirely if the league shows any wavering in support.  I'm guessing that MLS HQ doesn't love how they increasingly sound like Baghdad Bob and consequently, I'm guessing that Beckham's clock is winding down.
 
Also remember that Beckham's bid comes from the ownership clause in the contract he signed in 2007.....I would not be surprised if MLS is legally obligated to support the bid for a certain period of time.
 
Beckham met with Garber, U-Miami pres Donna Shalala and the Miami mayor Friday about a joint stadium. IMHO it's the only way a new stadium gets done, and it doesn't seem like ownership wants to share an existing stadium like Dolphins stadium or FIU (Beckham seemed to poopoo the latter). There's a lot of common interests: UM wants something closer to campus and smaller than Dolphins stadium, and Beckham/MLS want something near downtown. The difference, of course, is that any UM stadium would be in the 40-45k, and MLS is usually in the 20-30K range. If they can get 25K seats in the lower bowl, and cover the upper deck (like in Vancouver and Atlanta), it should be fine. Or if they have something like Toronto FC but with more seats in the end zones, and just leave the end zones empty for soccer, that could work too.
 
The three locations that have been talked about are Overtown, which is just west of and walkable from downtown; an abandoned boatyard near the airport (a bit further from downtown but on MetroRail and the commuter rail); and a plot next to Marlins Park, which is the spiritual homeland of UM football. Waterfront is totally out of the question. The city owns the land near Marlins Park and offered it to the group, but the group might have to buy more land because plot might not be big enough. Outside of the land, the city probably isn't pitching in anything (nor should they, thanks Jeff Loria!), but with UM helping to pay it gets the ownership group closer to the financial finish line.
 

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D.C. really has no business being this good with that payroll and Espindola missing so much time this year. That being said, really frustrating that they couldn't score two goals with such an extended two man advantage.
 

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Hard to not walk away from this one thinking that the Revs are better (at least when they have 11 on the field).  Farrell playing better every game so Jones back to where he belongs in midfield.  We'll see how they play next game with Alston in again, but that makes them much weaker.  
 

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The Austin Aztex have a stadium problem:
 
https://twitter.com/pauldalglish/status/602967034566029312
 

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Unemployment is pretty sweet when there's playoff hockey and basketball capped off by a 10:30 D.C. United game
 

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The NASL had a rough day yesterday.  First, their chairman was indicted by the DOJ for his actions in his role as President of Traffic Sports -- which also happens to be a major shareholder in the league and owner of one of its teams.  Then, the second-division NASL went 0-7 against the third-division USL in the US Open Cup, an incredibly non-result for the league.  The second- and third-division statuses of the NASL and USL are determined by the USSF and obviously not reinforced by a system of promotion and relegation.  The USL has applied to be a second division league as well, adding fuel to the petty rivalry of minor leagues (which is a US soccer tradition).  Stuff like this doesn't help the NASL's cause.  I never thought there was much of a gap between NASL and USL and maybe NASL is a smidge better, but ouch.  These results don't help their cause.
 
The NASL did send two clubs through against amateur opposition.  In the one all-amateur match, the lowly USASA club PSA Elite beat the PDL's Ventura County Fusion.  PSA Elite are the only survivor from the first round and now have a trip to the LA Galaxy.
 
4th round:
 
Philadelphia Union vs. Rochester Rhinos (USL)
New York Red Bulls vs. Atlanta Silverbacks (NASL)
Sporting Kansas City vs. Saint Louis FC (USL)
Chicago Fire vs. Louisville City FC (USL)
FC Dallas vs. Oklahoma City Energy (USL)
Colorado Rapids vs. Colorado Springs Switchbacks (USL)
Real Salt Lake vs. Seattle Sounders 2 (USL)
San Jose Earthquakes vs. Sacramento Republic (USL)
Seattle Sounders vs. Portland Timbers
Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL) vs. D.C. United
Richmond Kickers (USL) vs. Columbus Crew
New York Cosmos (NASL) vs. New York City FC
Charleston Battery (USL) vs. Orlando City
New England Revolution vs. Charlotte Independence (USL)
Houston Dynamo vs. Austin Aztex (USL)
Los Angeles Galaxy vs. PSA Elite (USASA)
 

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Some great rivalry possibilities there.  You have the NY matchup, Dallas v OKC, Houston v Austin (some proceeds to the flooding, I'm sure), the all-Colorado match, and a Missouri throwdown.  
 
We're one more KY team away from realizing the dream of a possible "Kentucky Derby".  
 

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Some great rivalry possibilities there.  You have the NY matchup, Dallas v OKC, Houston v Austin (some proceeds to the flooding, I'm sure), the all-Colorado match, and a Missouri throwdown.  
 
We're one more KY team away from realizing the dream of a possible "Kentucky Derby".  
 
There's a rumor about USL coming to Cincinnati next year, which is probably as close as you'll ever get to a Kentucky Derby.
 
The number of pro teams in US-based leagues now stands at 55, the largest since the late 90s.  Back then there were tons of unsustainable fly-by-night operations that disappeared quickly.  Not every NASL and USL team is on solid financial ground, but the state of minor league soccer is healthier than perhaps it has ever been.  More room for real local rivalries now than ever before.
 
I have also been impressed with how well minor league teams have been doing in places like Louisville, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, et al.  Not places I had pinned as soccer hotbeds.
 
There has been some criticism of the intentionally non-random draw of the USOC, but I think it's a good thing for now.  It ensures local games between clubs in different leagues who would otherwise never meet and limits travel.  Booking cross-country flights a week in advance is exactly the sort of expense that USL clubs don't need.
 

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- Big news from Orlando: the club is now funding the stadium fully privately and intends to build for a 25-28k capacity instead of 19.5k.  Given how well things have gone, 19.5k simply was far too small.
 
- KC and Luis Marin agreed to mutually terminate the GK's contract.  He lost his job to the unheralded Tim Melia and wasn't happy or assimilating.
 
Some depth signings:
 
- Houston signed 19 year old Colombian forward Mauro Manotas from Uniautonoma,  Manotas was on Colombia's U20 qualifying squad this year, though it appears he didn't make the WC team.
 
- Dallas signed 33 year old Panamanian midfielder Rolando Escobar, who spent the last four years in the Venezuelan league.
 
- DC signed 27 year old Argentine midfielder Facundo Coria from Argentinos Juniors.
 

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The 2015-16 CCL draw is out.
 
Group A:
W Connection (TRI)
Deportivo Saprissa (CRC)
Santos Laguna (MEX)
 
Group B:
Isidro Metapán (SLV)
Herediano (CRC)
Tigres (MEX)
 
Group C:
Verdes (BLZ)
San Francisco (PAN)
Queretaro (MEX)
 
Group D:
Central (TRI)
Comunicaciones (GUA)
LA Galaxy
 
Group E:
Walter Ferretti (NCA)
Motagua (HON)
América (MEX)
 
Group F:
Vancouver Whitecaps
Olimpia (HON)
Seattle Sounders
 
Group G:
Santa Tecla (SLV)
Municipal (GUA)
Real Salt Lake
 
Group H:
Montego Bay United (JAM)
Árabe Unido (PAN)
D.C. United
 
 
 
Group F seems by far the toughest, but at least Seattle and Vancouver won't add much travel to their schedule.  RSL doesn't have a particularly tough group but they worry me a bit given their current form.  Glad MLS avoiding drawing any Costa Rican teams.
 

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New England Revolution vs. Charlotte Independence (USL)
 
Bought my ticket for this game @Soldiers Field Soccer Stadium in Allston.  Anyone else going?
 

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Blegh, a great long day of soccer ends on a sour notes as the Revs lose late. Hard to say exactly what is wrong with this team right now, but they just can't put teams away.
 
Congrats to the Timbers fans here, Portland looked really good in the second half in particular. If Valeri can come back and play at his best I think they're a play-off team for sure.
 

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Pretty bleh game overall, made worse by having to watch it with the Timbers announcers on MLS Live.  
Sorry you had to listen to them. Hard to believe we used to have Robbie Earl and John Strong as commentators.
 

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Pretty bleh game overall, made worse by having to watch it with the Timbers announcers on MLS Live.  
 
Just watched this game on MLS Live this morning.  Agreed.
 
I have to say that the Timbers deserved the three points.  Nguyen has really come back to earth in 2015 and Jones has either been injured or lacked his usual influence.  The Revs will need at least one of them to get back on track.
 

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Say it ain't so:
 
https://twitter.com/AdamJardy/status/608631406017806336
 

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That headline sounds wildly misleading, the article says they're looking for different colors for their alternate/third jerseys.
 
I have to imagine they keep the yellow for their primary jersey, they just changed their logo last year and kept yellow as the dominant color.
 

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That headline sounds wildly misleading, the article says they're looking for different colors for their alternate/third jerseys.
 
I have to imagine they keep the yellow for their primary jersey, they just changed their logo last year and kept yellow as the dominant color.
 
No, it's not misleading - the article states that they won't have a yellow (gold) jersey next season.  Here's another.
 
http://www.massivereport.com/2015/6/10/8755843/columbus-crew-sc-to-abandon-gold-kit-in-2016
 
 
Massive Report has learned that the Black & Gold will go forward in name only, as the current secondary kit - the black jersey that made its return this year - will officially become the primary, and the second jersey will be white featuring "funky colors."
The source with knowledge of the new jersey alluded to the catalog as reference for the "funky colors," meaning the jersey will likely feature the different shades of blue, yellow, red, and white that adorn the seal of Columbus.
With this change, 2016 will mark the first time since 1999 that Crew SC has not had a gold kit.
 

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My mistake, and wow that is surprising. It's just so odd to ditch the club's unique identity like that, they did such a good job with the new crest of both updating the look while staying true to the club's identity, it feels like they're erasing that by then ditching the jerseys.