Passan reporting Lester/Gomes to the A's for Cespedes
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Al Zarilla said:
That wasn't the impression I was getting from reading through the thread. An outfield of Craig in LF, Cespedes in CF, and Victorino in RF with Nava as a 4th outfielder and Bradley as a defensive specialist works for me. I bet they won't do it though.
Plympton91 said:
FWIW, Cespedes is at 3.0 for this year so far and 3.9 for his rookie year, according to b-ref. He's played 101 games this year and played 129 his rookie year.
If he's healthy, he's going to far exceed the numbers you threw out.
They certainly shouldn't do it this year. This year is over. Victorino should be DL'd for the rest of the year to get healthy. JBJ should play as many games in CF as possible with Cespedes in RF, Craig in LF. If JBJ continues to produce at his recent level and improves as most players do in their second and third years in the majors he will be an excellent player given his defensive abilities.
Should the Sox be near the bottom in ERA next year and Cespedes floats his .290 OPB you can comfort us with your knowledge of the plan.DrewDawg said:
Still - better return than expected.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
He's comfortably above average and no one is claiming a coup. People are simply impressed with the return and are excited that it's a move made to improve the outlook in 2015 rather than trigger a full rebuild.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
He's a huge impact on the lineup. Obviously the loss of Lester weighs against the addition he brings to the club overall but they can address that gap in free agency. Also, it's "regardless." There is no version of the word that starts with "ir."
I guess we'll agree to disagree on the meaning of "huge." But I concede "irregardless." :blink:Snodgrass'Muff said:
This is a completely uninspiring trade.
Don't mind Cespedes, but the team is going to be brutal next year and they needed a return that will give them an asset that will be part of the team for more than one season. Let's face it, Cespedes is the type of player that someone will overpay once he hits free agency, but with his lack of plate patience and erratic play there is no way he will be worth the $20 AAV he's likely to get. So it really seems like the Sox traded Lester for a pick and the potential of another pick. I guess that's better than what they might have gotten if they let him walk but nothing that inspiring. Would have far preferred a prospect.
And can people please stop suggesting Cespedes could somehow be part of a Stanton trade. Cespedes hits free agency one year before Stanton and the whole reason Miami is trading Stanton is that they have no interest in the cost of resigning expensive free agents.
Don't mind Cespedes, but the team is going to be brutal next year and they needed a return that will give them an asset that will be part of the team for more than one season. Let's face it, Cespedes is the type of player that someone will overpay once he hits free agency, but with his lack of plate patience and erratic play there is no way he will be worth the $20 AAV he's likely to get. So it really seems like the Sox traded Lester for a pick and the potential of another pick. I guess that's better than what they might have gotten if they let him walk but nothing that inspiring. Would have far preferred a prospect.
And can people please stop suggesting Cespedes could somehow be part of a Stanton trade. Cespedes hits free agency one year before Stanton and the whole reason Miami is trading Stanton is that they have no interest in the cost of resigning expensive free agents.
maxotaur said:
"The plan" is to get together good baseball players so the Red Sox can win games. Sometimes the players they have do good and sometimes they don't, but talking about whether they have 'a plan' or not at this point gets you nowhere. There are EIGHT MONTHS TO GO before the next season starts.
EDIT: Dear God, 8 months. What's the over/under on ridiculous Stanton trade proposal threads until that time?
Think about something guys - If the Red Sox weren't in a position to challenge for a championship last year they would have traded Elsbury just like Lester. Lester may well and up with the Yankees too. The hope is maybe the Yankees will only get Lester Or Max Scherzer but maybe the Sox can get the other one. But the Sox did not have any confidence they were signing Lester before he hit the market. Now we have proven power and a stocked Minor League system to work with to add more pieces in the upcoming months. I'm good with this. Will miss Jon but it's business. Also holding out small hope he shuns MFY and comes back with us. If he did that after winning a WS with another team his popularity would soar to mind-blowing status in Boston.
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Video: Red Sox owner John Henry hugs Jon Lester http://on.wcvb.com/1rMGL9w
Video shows John Henry intercepting Lester in his truck and pulling him aside for a chat.
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Video: Red Sox owner John Henry hugs Jon Lester http://on.wcvb.com/1rMGL9w
Video shows John Henry intercepting Lester in his truck and pulling him aside for a chat.
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Betts is really an IF who's been converted. And don't think the Sox are done dealing. Who knows if/where Betts plays for Boston next year.DrewDawg said:
Red(s)HawksFan said:
There's also a fairly good chance that he's already the best player of the three
Mazz needs to chill on the ranting. (No surprise though) Why back up the truck for Lester until you have to. Lester may have been determined to test the market like Ellsbury.
Henry doesn't strike me a a big "hugger". The genuine part was Henry practically running to the parking lot to make sure he thanked Jon and wished him well. I'm not "hung" on the hug. Henry could have stayed in his office sipping his bourbon.sackamano said:
OK, didn't know there was a front moving through that had Cespedes as the starting CFer. I was thinking Cespedes in left with Nava playing some there, Bradley in center, and then Cespedes could get more games in by spelling Bradley in center sometimes.Plympton91 said:
kazuneko said:
Fortunately next year doesn't start next week. Lots to be done in the coming months. And didn't we all expect them to be pretty mediocre last year? The FO has gained my faith over the years.
Welcome to my City, Jon. For the first time I'll be able to root for the A's wholeheartedly. This trade just salvaged the season for me.
Geez. Whenever I take a break and look at the site, nothing happens. Whenever I switch into working, there's a trade. I'm going to work now.
I really like the return but hate the trade. Really I'm just sad that Jon is gone. I'm holding out hope that it's not permanent but...
Really? On a busy day like today, with so much to discuss, we are analyzing hugs?sackamano said:
