Patriots sign RB Antonio Gibson

DJnVa

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Depends on money...can catch the ball though.

Rushed for 1000 yards a few years back.
 

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Nice third down back in the right system. I'd imagine it's a shortish/reasonable deal.
 
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I don't hate the Patriots remaining somewhat quiet on Day One of FA - or that the state of the team has resulted in a quiet Day One, which may be the more likely explanation. This team is years away from contending. Take it slow, build smart.
 

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Depends on money...can catch the ball though.

Rushed for 1000 yards a few years back.
Better be around 1.5mil per year. His last contract with Washington was 4yr/4.9mil, or 1.2mil per year, and I think he's worse now, and definitely slower. This is a depth pickup along the lines of Ty Montgomery, guy who can catch on third down if need be, etc. The Pats gave him 2/3.6 and that was an overpay.
 

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Better be around 1.5mil per year. His last contract with Washington was 4yr/4.9mil, or 1.2mil per year, and I think he's worse now, and definitely slower. This is a depth pickup along the lines of Ty Montgomery, guy who can catch on third down if need be, etc. The Pats gave him 2/3.6 and that was an overpay.
You're going to be diappointed, I bet. My guess is he'll get far more than that. Perhaps double the AAV. Gibson was misused in Washington and is still above average as a tackle-breaker.
 

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I've always liked Gibson, but it was concerning that he basically disappeared in the Commanders offense last season.

Converted hybrid college WR/RB/kicker returner, ran a 4.39 40 at the combine in 2020, had that one breakout year in DC but faded the last two years. Lots of experience as a pass catcher and kick returner.

Decent short writeup with video on a Steelers fan site, with their summary.

Washington Running Back Antonio Gibson is one of those players that just is just so frustrating to watch on tape. While Gibson can produce explosive plays of more than twenty yards due to his speed he can outrun several receivers. Too often he tries to bounce plays outside even when it's seemingly designed for him to run inside. When he does that he gets himself into trouble on the field, and when he comes to the sidelines. But, occasionally being able to exploit the defense for a huge explosive play does have its advantages, especially for an offense predicted to be as conservative as the Steelers.
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2024/3/2/24076844/antonio-gibson-steelers-free-agency-profile-team-fit-player-history-commanders-stats
 
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On a more serious note... Gibson is pretty good, good passcatcher, intermittent balls security issues, but nice change of pace. not great for blocking, but a solid player for that role.
 

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You're going to be diappointed, I bet. My guess is he'll get far more than that. Perhaps double the AAV. Gibson was misused in Washington and is still above average as a tackle-breaker.
If that's the case, maybe he can still play WR. That's what he was in college, and was at the time of the draft.

But I doubt it.
 

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He's returned 35 kickoffs in the last two years with only a few sizable returns.
 

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On a more serious note... Gibson is pretty good, good passcatcher, intermittent balls security issues, but nice change of pace. not great for blocking, but a solid player for that role.
Dynamic, but mistake prone is his rep. A non BB guy as they come in a way!
 

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That's true, and admittedly I didn't watch almost any Commanders football last year, but with Bieniemy there I was expecting them to figure out how to use Gibson.
At the end of the day, it depends on the cash.
 

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He's returned 35 kickoffs in the last two years with only a few sizable returns.
In the link above, you can see all of his "explosive plays from 2023." Don't worry, it's not long. If you fast forward the replay of the first explosive play, the second and final one is pretty quick.

Maybe the Pats can bring James Robinson back in, and they can compete for the 6th running back role. Incredibly, Robinson is younger than Gibson (both turn 26 this year, in August and June).
 

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A third down back that can't protect the QB sounds worrisome
I may be wrong on that BTW. I remembered him as a bad passblocker which he was when he started and cost him 3rd down snaps to McKissic among others, but PFF had him as a very good passblocker last year, so he might have improved.
 

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A third down back that can't protect the QB sounds worrisome
Then you find situations to put him in that might not require that. Play to the player's strengths. Gibson can flex out wide. Use motion. Isolate him.
 

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We got the sweet contract details on Cousins already, but no one has the Gibson ones?

AMERICA WANTS TO KNOW!!!
 

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That looks promising for the theory that he improved his blocking the last year or so.
Per Kyed, he's graded well the last 2 years, just 8 total pressures.

He was also 4th in NFL in yards after contact/carry.
 

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A little bit richer than I thought it would be but I was estimating 3/$9M or so, so I wasn't that far off.
 

DJnVa

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That seems a bit hefty. He's clearly more than Ty Montgomery.

EDIT: Ah, only $5.3 guaranteed.
 

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That seems a bit hefty. He's clearly more than Ty Montgomery.

EDIT: Ah, only $5.3 guaranteed.
He’s only 26 so I am really fine with this deal. Honestly think he might have been misused in Washington which is a terrible run franchise.
 
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He’s only 26 so I am really fine with this deal. Honestly think he might have been misused in Washington which is a terrible run franchise.
He was de-emphasized because he can’t hold onto the football. 12 fumbles on 814 touches

For reference, James White had 2 on 700, Zeke Elliott has 24 on 2421
 

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I like this deal a lot.

Always been a fan of Gibson and getting out of the clown show in DC can only help him.

To add on to @NextBigThing8184's post above, his big issue was always taking care of the ball. That's what got him in the doghouse constantly in DC
 

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I like this move, I think he's very good and dynamic. Rivera just hated him and he was always in the doghouse.

But obviously he needs to stop fumbling.
 

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IIRC he was really more of a WR in college but never got the looks out of the backfield you might expect, 3-4 targets a game when it has seemed like he has the juice for more.
 

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Jeez I hate players that fumble. Not sure how being dynamic is helpful if he keeps putting the ball on the ground at the rate shown a few posts up.
 

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Jeez I hate players that fumble. Not sure how being dynamic is helpful if he keeps putting the ball on the ground at the rate shown a few posts up.
his fumble numbers are interesting...
1 as a rookie in 206 touches
6 year 2 in 300 touches
1 year 3 in 195 touches
then 4 last year in 113 touches.

So 2 terrible years, and 2 fine years.