Pats first team to be flexed out of MNF

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How ever will we recover?
Probably by going about our lives, would be my guess.

Still, you don't think it's an embarrassment that the NFL is flexing Patrick Mahomes off of primetime because the Patriots are one of the worst teams in the NFL? You can be cool guy internet person all you want. But it's still quite a fall from grace. Acknowledging it isn't something odd.
 

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Still, you don't think it's an embarrassment that the NFL is flexing Patrick Mahomes off of primetime because the Patriots are one of the worst teams in the NFL? You can be cool guy internet person all you want. But it's still quite a fall from grace. Acknowledging it isn't something odd.
I choose to believe this is an embarrassment for the Chiefs -- who must have lost some luster if they're not hot enough to stay on MNF regardless of the opponent
 

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Probably by going about our lives, would be my guess.

Still, you don't think it's an embarrassment that the NFL is flexing Patrick Mahomes off of primetime because the Patriots are one of the worst teams in the NFL? You can be cool guy internet person all you want. But it's still quite a fall from grace. Acknowledging it isn't something odd.
This is a great thing. I hope this pisses of Robert and Jonathan Kraft to no end and forces some changes, just another log on the fire.
 

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That's a nifty take. I like it.

Taylor Swift fatigue.
This fucking blows. My 13 year old daughter has been all over me to take her to that Pats/Chiefs game, because there's a chance Taylor Swift might be there. I told her that Tay Tay is on some foreign country tour right now, the game is going to suck, so there's no chance she'll be there. My daughter than said that's fine, she'll just go see Travis Kelce, which put me into a cross between blind, seething rage and complete sadness. My last argument was that it's a Monday night, and she can't be getting home at 2:00 a.m. from a football game.

Now it's at 1:00 on Sunday. I might have to chop my leg off the day before.
 

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Probably by going about our lives, would be my guess.

Still, you don't think it's an embarrassment that the NFL is flexing Patrick Mahomes off of primetime because the Patriots are one of the worst teams in the NFL? You can be cool guy internet person all you want. But it's still quite a fall from grace. Acknowledging it isn't something odd.
I think it's just a reflection of the fact that we're not a playoff team, which is not news.

The breathless reporting that it's the "first time ever" that a MNF game has been flexed is kind of silly, but obviously the headlines are working. This is the first year that Monday games have been eligible for flexing. Eagles at Seahawks is a much better game.
 

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I think it's just a reflection of the fact that we're not a playoff team, which is not news.

The breathless reporting that it's the "first time ever" that a MNF game has been flexed is kind of silly, but obviously the headlines are working. This is the first year that Monday games have been eligible for flexing. Eagles at Seahawks is a much better game.
The Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are being flexed off of Monday night because they are playing the Patriots. This is massive. And embarrassing.

This board has had multiple celebration threads because of how great the Pats have been for two decades. And they were earned and glorious. But now that the Pats are the dregs of the NFL, I find it objectionable people are like, "Who cares loser?"

People care, that's the point with sports. The fact that it's a Monday is not relevant and doesn't matter. The fact that it's happening does.
 

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The Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are being flexed off of Monday night because they are playing the Patriots. This is massive. And embarrassing.

This board has had multiple celebration threads because of how great the Pats have been for two decades. And they were earned and glorious. But now that the Pats are the dregs of the NFL, I find it objectionable people are like, "Who cares loser?"

People care, that's the point with sports. The fact that it's a Monday is not relevant and doesn't matter. The fact that it's happening does.
Nobody is saying they don't care. I, internet cool guy that I am, care about the team. But, Christ, have some perspective. Being flexed out of a single game in prime time during a down year isn't a fraction as depressing or "embarrassing" as never being able to watch a home game in the early 80s because of the TV blackout rules. Those teams stank out loud and there was no reason to think they would get any better because the players, coaching and ownership all sucked.

At any rate, we should all be as sanguine about the state of this team as Jabril Peppers:

View: https://twitter.com/BabzOnTheMic/status/1730283256719773891?s=20
 

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Praise Tebow!!

Day games are best. Too bad they can't be flexed out of TNF next week.
 

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The fact that the Pats are so much of a tire fire the league would rather flex its premier franchise out of that spot is kind of incredible. The Patriots suck supercedes KC's attractiveness. Jesus.
 

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I'm surprised any game featuring KC would be flexed out of MNF, especially for a game that will likely feature only 1 playoff team as SEA is on the brink of not being competitive as well.
 

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The weird thing is that I believe most of the country would absolutely love watching the Chiefs kick the Patriots ass up and down the field.
 

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It's going to be a shitty game, most likely. Seahawks against Eagles is the game that I'd rather watchin primetime.

I hope the Patriots get back to a place where people want to watch them in primetime, but the fact that they aren't now isn't a very big surprise. I have trouble getting worked up about this in the slightest -- at least not beyond the disappointment I already feel about the shitty year. Not for me to tell anyone else how they should feel -- if you feel embarrassed, I get it. I sure as hell don't.
 

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Nobody is saying they don't care. I, internet cool guy that I am, care about the team. But, Christ, have some perspective. Being flexed out of a single game in prime time during a down year isn't a fraction as depressing or "embarrassing" as never being able to watch a home game in the early 80s because of the TV blackout rules. Those teams stank out loud and there was no reason to think they would get any better because the players, coaching and ownership all sucked.

At any rate, we should all be as sanguine about the state of this team as Jabril Peppers:

View: https://twitter.com/BabzOnTheMic/status/1730283256719773891?s=20
As I said, I will happily go about my life. But I also didn't feel the need to snidely dismiss what is happening in 2023, just to be the above it all cool guy. I guess you like that role, so stick with it. I'm sure your "perspective" is satisfying.

And I don't give a rats ass about the early 80s. The late 1900s are irrelevant. Who cares about a blackout in 1981?

The team stinks, I hope it gets better soon. I'll still root. And I'll still be happy regardless of NFL results. But right now, this is the dregs. Acknowledging that isn't some crazy thing. At least I am honest.
 

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This reminds me we’re eligible for hard knocks now!
I think it's kind of a done deal. There is already a pretty small list that is eligible each year, and I have little doubt that whatever handful of teams there are, the Patriots will be the one people are most interested in. I suppose if Belichick were to leave, it might be different.
 

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Especially since you have so much else to be ....
Might be on to something -- the cool people get embarrassed about their team being flexed because everything else is going swimmingly. Us normal nerds already have the embarrassment hard drive near full, so this does nothing extra.
 

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I think it's kind of a done deal. There is already a pretty small list that is eligible each year, and I have little doubt that whatever handful of teams there are, the Patriots will be the one people are most interested in. I suppose if Belichick were to leave, it might be different.
As noted by E5, if Belichick leaves, the Pats would not be eligible for Hard Knocks.
 

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As I said, I will happily go about my life. But I also didn't feel the need to snidely dismiss what is happening in 2023, just to be the above it all cool guy. I guess you like that role, so stick with it. I'm sure your "perspective" is satisfying.

And I don't give a rats ass about the early 80s. The late 1900s are irrelevant. Who cares about a blackout in 1981?

The team stinks, I hope it gets better soon. I'll still root. And I'll still be happy regardless of NFL results. But right now, this is the dregs. Acknowledging that isn't some crazy thing. At least I am honest.
Thank you for your honesty. It’s a breath of fresh air. Really.

Listen, I’m not sitting here attacking you for being “an Internet hothead” (in part because I think it’s the actual fucking rules here). I’m just saying it can get—and has gotten—a lot worse. So moaning about “new lows“ is a little over the top and not borne out by the facts.

I, for one, am hoping that the ownership shows some urgency to get things back on track but is not worried about the “embarrassment” of stuff like getting flexed a single time late in a down season. That’s when people make stupid emotional decisions.
 

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I think it's just a reflection of the fact that we're not a playoff team, which is not news.

The breathless reporting that it's the "first time ever" that a MNF game has been flexed is kind of silly, but obviously the headlines are working. This is the first year that Monday games have been eligible for flexing. Eagles at Seahawks is a much better game.
Is it? Seahawks look on the downward trend. The Pats obviously suck but they could have played this up as another Mahomes/BB installment, and if KC went off, then the NFL had a chance to showcase their brightest star. MNF has largely been horrible for years so I'm in support of the flex arrangements, but this one is kind of blah.
 

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Not surprised, a MNF game that late in the season should have playoff implications for both teams, even if Seattle doesn’t have much oomph nationally in a vacuum.
 

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Is it? Seahawks look on the downward trend. The Pats obviously suck but they could have played this up as another Mahomes/BB installment, and if KC went off, then the NFL had a chance to showcase their brightest star. MNF has largely been horrible for years so I'm in support of the flex arrangements, but this one is kind of blah.
Seattle is definitely trending downward but that game might be a big one for the team. It could matter for both teams, actually.
 

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I was old enough to watch games with dad instead of demanding that he put on cartoons during Bledsoe's first year. I have fond memories of Ben Coates, Marion Butts, Vincent Brisby, Dave Meggett and Willie Clay. I remember a few games early on in my Pats-watching life where the local CBS affiliate would show the Bills or Jets instead of the Pats, and dad would call them and be absolutely irate. Parcells and Beldsoe brought credibility and watchability. Obviously I'm a spoiled Pats fan, but I just texted dad and said, "So, this is what it was like in The Before Times?" Thanks for this post.
 

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Networks are going to keep flexing out of this game until it’s on the Hallmark Channel at 4 am.
Bill leaves his dreary, big-city job to head to the small town where he grew up. While there, he finds the long snapper of his dreams, returns to Foxboro with his new beau, and wins his 7th Lombardi trophy.
 

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I was old enough to watch games with dad instead of demanding that he put on cartoons during Bledsoe's first year. I have fond memories of Ben Coates, Marion Butts, Vincent Brisby, Dave Meggett and Willie Clay. I remember a few games early on in my Pats-watching life where the local CBS affiliate would show the Bills or Jets instead of the Pats, and dad would call them and be absolutely irate. Parcells and Beldsoe brought credibility and watchability. Obviously I'm a spoiled Pats fan, but I just texted dad and said, "So, this is what it was like in The Before Times?" Thanks for this post.
Those were there days. I was dating a girl who lived in Springfield and I would go out on a Sunday home game and get to watch it on channel 22.
 

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I would like the NFL to flex in a regular season Puppy League game in lieu of Sunday afternoon Chiefs/Pats. Puppies >>>Taylor Swift>>>this crapfest affair
 

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The Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are being flexed off of Monday night because they are playing the Patriots. This is massive. And embarrassing.
Embarrassing to whom? Possibly to the players; but then again they might prefer to get their asses kicked in the obscurity of a Sunday afternoon game.
 

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Shouldn't this news be in 'Celebrating What is'?

Once again the Pats make history! Will go down in the record books forever.
 

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Bill leaves his dreary, big-city job to head to the small town where he grew up. While there, he finds the long snapper of his dreams, returns to Foxboro with his new beau, and wins his 7th Lombardi trophy.
This is good but you ommitted the down on her luck high school girlfriend with a heart of gold that puts him back on track. Our man is lonely!
 

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It’s a crappy season. It happens. The amount of time I spend thinking or embarrassed about the 1992 Patriots is zero.
 

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I saw the headline and it stung, just how far we've fallen. It's a bummer, I'm not going to pretend otherwise :(