RealFantasy Pigskin 2013: Draft and Discussion

[Turrable]

Sent my pick to Proxy a few hours ago but I guess he's out
 
Anyhow I'm back now and I'll take Bryant McKinnie, LT

 
He's old and he has trouble staying in shape but he was a beast once upon a time and he had a great playoff run protecting Flacco's blindside. I figure if those 4 weeks were enough proof that Flacco is elite then they also prove McKinnie is worthy of protecting Peyton.
 
edit- totally forgot about the sex cruise until mascho mentioned it. Gives me a chance to quote one of the best wiki pages around (NSFW):
 

Spoiler

"McKinnie allegedly picked up a naked woman, placed her on the bar and performed cunnilingus on her in front of the crew and other guests. Later that evening McKinnie and three other men were spotted sitting in deck chairs receiving fellatio from four women, which was also observed by the crew in a public area of the boat.[3] When asked, McKinnie said, 'I'm upset my name is on the list, but I'm going to let my lawyer handle that.'"

 
Also he once got kicked off the Pro Bowl roster for being fat and lazy. But he made the Pro Bowl!

 

 

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

If you're going to send picks to the Proxy account, post here and let us know.  Phragle and I aren't just randomly checking the account to see whether it has new messages.

 

[Turrable]

Ah my bad I figured you had it hooked up to an email account. Will do next time
 
Oh and I'll PM Jerbear

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Ah my bad I figured you had it hooked up to an email account. Will do next time
 
Oh and I'll PM Jerbear

 
No worries.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Oh, but there ARE worries.

And McKinnie is fat.

 

[mascho]

Turrable's team is gonna have some kick ass parties.

 

[Turrable]

Yeah but pickings are slim at LT. I was also looking at Backus and then he fucking retired.

 

[Turrable]

Turrable's team is gonna have some kick ass parties.

 
I assure you Karachi's party boats will feature only the most wholesome entertainment
 
Mainly cockfights

 

[Super Nomario]

Yeah but pickings are slim at LT. I was also looking at Backus and then he fucking retired.

 
You were looking at Backus? Are you blind now?

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Cannot unsee. 
 
Proxy sent before the image above is branded into my collective memory. 

 

[Turrable]

 
You were looking at Backus? Are you blind now?

 
Knowing I could have used that image makes his retirement a million times more painful

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Oh, but there ARE worries.

And McKinnie is fat.

 
Harbaugh should have own coach of the year just getting McKinnie's fat ass in gear and actually contribute during the SB run. 

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

SSF, I don't know if you saw JerBear's post earlier but he said that he's busy and requested a two hour clock.  So you should go ahead and pick at 5:30 EST if he hasn't checked in already.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

SSF, I don't know if you saw JerBear's post earlier but he said that he's busy and requested a two hour clock.  So you should go ahead and pick at 5:30 EST if he hasn't checked in already.

 
I'll be out in a bit MMS, so pick sent to Proxy and also sent a PM to SN. Thanks MMS.

 

[Turrable]

Harbaugh should have own coach of the year just getting McKinnie's fat ass in gear and actually contribute during the SB run. 

 
Yet another reason why I think it'd be fun to be able to draft coaches

 

[JerBear]

Need another big body to clog up the middle. This guy is a beast, stays healthy, and will pair great with Joseph in the middle of my 4-3.  
 
Paul Soliai, DT
 

 
Do I need to PM SSF or is proxy covering him?
 
EDIT: PM'd SSF as he's in the thread.

 

[Proxy]

SSF picks TE Coby Fleener

 

[Proxy]

Seoul Sox Fan picks TE Coby Fleener, who has a semi-interesting blog, where he just talks about random shit having to do with being an NFL player.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Doh.  I guess we were both logged in.  The blog is worth wasting a few minutes on though.

 

[Super Nomario]

We're halfway through the draft and I don't have any interior linebackers yet. I was hoping to rectify that with Arthur Brown, but KFP / SMU took him. That means two things: 1) he's going to suck in the NFL after all, and 2) there aren't any real high-upside ILBs left. So I'm going to switch gears here. If my ILBs are going to be crap, they're going to play behind a dominant defensive line that's going to let them be crap.
 
With the 444th selection, the Cleveland Ravens select:

 
NT Jesse Williams, Alabama Crimson Tide
 
This draft is full of defensive tackle prospects, but Williams is possibly the best two-gapper in the class. He's a 320-pound Australian human who can somehow bench 600 pounds and run a 4.9 40. Technically he'll be a backup on my squad, but since Seymour's 33 and Ngata 29, he'll get plenty of burn subbing for those guys, and against run-heavy teams I might start him. The "Monstar" has experience both at end and tackle in the 3-4, so he'll be a versatile cog to plug into my defense. At least until he and Kaepernick both die (dye?) of ink overdoses trying to out-tattoo each other:

 
Bureaucratic note: put him at my second DT (backup front 7) spot.
 
EDIT: ESC PM'd

 

[soxfan121]

That's a nice pick. I think Williams is better than any of the 2013 draftee DTs already taken in this here exercise. 

 

[Eck'sSneakyCheese]

With the 445th pick in the draft The Patriots are going to finally grab some offensive line help and select
 
Bobby Massie RT
 

 
Highly regarded coming out of college he did not come out of the gate well for the Cards last year in his first season. The second half however saw him make huge strides in every aspect of his game. He's agile for a guy his size, 6'6" 316, and shows great athleticism and strength.
 
From CBS
 

Prototypical size for remaining at right tackle in the NFL. Long arms and big hands. Very good initial quickness off the snap; consistently among the first linemen off the ball regardless of the competition. Very good upper body strength and good hand placement. Latches on to the defender and can control his opponent as long as he keeps his feet moving. Is surprisingly effective against speed rushers due to his length, balance and fluidity. Light on his feet for such a large man. Can knock defenders off the ball as a run-blocker. Combines quickness with power to create a surge. Shows the ability to make effective combination blocks, getting a strong initial pop on the front line defender before releasing and showing good speed and agility getting to the second level efficiently.

 
I think he fits well as the opposite bookend to Armstead.
 
Really like Nomario's pick of Jesse Williams . Was also looking at him for my backup NT, but I was hoping he'd last a few more rounds.
 
PM'd 121

 

[soxfan121]

Mike Adams, LT (Pittsburgh)
 
Limited to 10 games due to an ankle  injury, Adams still captured the Steelers "Joe Greene Great Performance Award" from the Pittsburgh Football Writer's Association  and their Rookie of the Year honor. Adams slipped in the draft due to a positive marijuana test but convinced the Pittsburgh brass to take a chance on him anyway. He may or may not end up at LT this season for the Steelers but he played the spot in college and was among the top ranked players at the LT position in last year's draft. And there really aren't any better options remaining at this point. 
 

 
BSJ has mail. Now, we wait.

 

[bsj]

Mike Adams, LT (Pittsburgh)
 
Limited to 10 games due to an ankle  injury, Adams still captured the Steelers "Joe Greene Great Performance Award" from the Pittsburgh Football Writer's Association  and their Rookie of the Year honor. Adams slipped in the draft due to a positive marijuana test but convinced the Pittsburgh brass to take a chance on him anyway. He may or may not end up at LT this season for the Steelers but he played the spot in college and was among the top ranked players at the LT position in last year's draft. And there really aren't any better options remaining at this point. 
 

 
BSJ has mail. Now, we wait.

Give me a sec

 

[bsj]

Cb aaron Williams

 

[Turrable]

The speed of picks is impressive, let's keep it up top 10 bros

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

I just sent a pm to OFT just in case.

 

[soxfan121]

I just sent a pm to OFT just in case.

 
I did that ten minutes ago. Assuming BSJ sent one as well, OFT has been swamped with notification.

 

[Super Nomario]

Picks sent to Proxy, SSF in case it gets back to me tonight. Going to a baseball game!

 

[Super Nomario]

We're at the halfway point; time to see how the teams are shaping up:
[table NFC East]Name Team QB RB TE WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB OLB OLB CB CB SS Myt1 Cowboys Matt Forte Jimmy Graham Calvin Johnson Donald Penn Jahri Evans Bryan Bulaga Jared Allen Ezekiel Ansah Sylvester Williams Brodrick Bunkley Tamba Hali Daryl Smith Johnathan Joseph Vontae Davis mascho Redskins Joe Flacco Vernon Davis Alshon Jeffrey DeAndre Hopkins Trent Williams Barrett Jones Gosder Cherilus Greg Hardy Nick Fairly Sheldon Richardson Alec Ogletree Kareem Jackson Greg Toler Major Wright ilol@u Giants Matt Schaub Adrian Peterson Brandon Marshall Stephen Hill Logan Mankins Maurkice Pouncey Eric Winston Julius Peppers Dwight Freeney Rey Maluaga Rob Ninkovich Philip Wheeler Antonio Cromartie Chris Houston Captain Laddie Eagles Andy Dalton Arian Foster Martellus Bennett Danario Alexander Davone Bess Jason Peters T.J. Lang Brian de la Puente Derrick Morgan Brian Robison Kevin Williams Mike Martin Jarvis Jones Chris Harris [/table]

Best offense: boy, this is tough. The Cowboys have the best WR and the best TE, but no QB. The Eagles have a good O-line, a good RB, and a decent QB, but his WR are pedestrian. The Redskins have the best QB of the bunch and a top TE, but his receivers are totally unproven. The Giants have the best RB, a plausible QB, and a #1 receiver, but no LT.
 
Best defense: the Cowboys have two good corners, two proven pass-rushers, and some nice youth on the D-line. I think all the defenses look solid so far.
 
Style of play: With no dominant passing attack and some good cornerbacks, the running games and defenses will define this division. Except no one has any safeties yet, so a couple times a game someone will break a tackle and go 60 yards or something.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table NFC North]Name Team QB RB FB TE WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB OLB OLB CB CB CB FS SS MysticMerlin Bears Tony Romo Marcedes Lewis Greg Olsen A.J. Green Vincent Jackson Rodger Saffold Zane Beadles King Dunlap Chandler Jones Anthony Spencer Lawrence Timmons Lance Briggs Devin McCourty Bernard Pollard dgilpin Lions Ryan Tannehill LeSean McCoy Desean Jackson Pierre Garcon Joe Thomas Andre Smith Chris Long Chris Clemons Brandon Mebane Paul Posluszny Chad Greenway Leon Hall Charles Tillman Glover Quin PDBWake / BohemianSky Packers Jay Cutler Jamaal Charles Jordy Nelson Duane Brown Rob Sims Chris Myers David Stewart Mario Williams Antonio Smith Brooks Reed Adrian Clayborne Brandon Carr Tramon Williams Eric Berry SleepyJose Vikings Jared Cook Mike Williams Stefen Wisniewski Kevin Zeitler D.J. Fluker Cameron Wake Marcell Dareus Johnathan Hankins Brian Cushing Dont'a Hightower K.J. Wright Casey Hayward Alterraun Verner T.J. Ward [/table]
 
Best offense: Da Bears, with the division's best QB in Romo, a pair of talented receivers in Green and Jackson, and a good TE tandem in Lewis and Olsen. Honorable mention to the Packers, who have the best RB in Charles, the second-best QB of the group in Cutler, and the division's best O-line.
 
Best defense: The Vikings are loaded with young talent to surround star pass-rusher Cameron Wake, while the Lions have an amazing CB tandem in Hall and Tillman to go with a strong front seven.
 
Style of play: All over the place. The Bears can throw but not stop it (no corners); the Lions and Packers are pretty balanced; the Vikings are D-only.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table NFC South]Name Team QB RB TE WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB OLB OLB CB CB FS SS bsj Falcons Andrew Luck Vick Ballard Jermaine Gresham Demaryius Thomas Josh Gordon Sebastian Vollmer Kevin Boothe Orlando Franklin Robert Quinn Mason Foster Jerod Mayo Sean Smith Aaron Williams Michael Griffin Morgan's Magic Snowplow Buccaneers Sam Bradford Dez Bryant Michael Floyd Eric Fisher Chris Chester Mitchell Schwartz Kendall Reyes Justin Smith Von Miller Ryan Kerrigan Cortez Allen Keenan Lewis Eric Weddle Troy Polamalu Was(Not Wasdin) Panthers Aaron Hernandez Randall Cobb Cecil Shorts Jonathan Martin Chance Warmack Jonathan Cooper Brandon Graham Courtney Upshaw John Jenkins Stephen Paea Bobby Wagner Richard Sherman Prince Amukamara Da'Norris Searcy Saturnian Saints Alex Smith Jason Witten Stevie Johnson Joe Staley Evan Mathis Will Montgomery Tyson Clabo Barkevious Mingo Damontre Moore Ndamukong Suh Vince Wilfork Jason McCourty Josh Wilson Michael Huff [/table]

Best offense: the Falcons have the division's best QB (Luck), it's only RB (Ballard), and some nice receiving weapons in Thomas, Gordon, and Gresham. The Saints deserve props for building the kind of offense that Smith can be successful in, with the division's best TE (Witten) and the division's best offensive line.

Best defense: the Bucs' defense is straight nasty, with excellent pass-rushers, safeties, corners, and DEs.

Style of play: the young corners stand out; everyone has two and the oldest is Josh Wilson at 28. How will they do against the good WRs in the division? Teams may find it easier to attack with their TEs.

 

[Old Fart Tree]

Shit I'm at the WBC game. Gonna have to pick a few more WRs in a few hours. Sorry to slow things up.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table NFC West]Name Team QB RB FB TE WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT ILB OLB OLB CB CB FS SS dylan marsh Cardinals Drew Brees Ray Rice Vonta Leach Tyler Eifert Jeremy Maclin Marshall Newhouse Chris Snee Kyle Long Darnell Dockett Trent Cole Dontari Poe Daryl Washington Terrell Suggs Nmandi Asomugha ragnarok725 Rams Cam Newton Zach Ertz Larry Fitzgerald Cordarelle Patterson William Beatty Ryan Wendell Louis Vasquez Jermon Bushrod Michael Bennett Paul Kruger Gerald McCoy Erin Henderson Brandon Flowers Kenny Phillips DaughtersofDougMirabelli 49ers Eli Manning David Wilson Mike Wallace Danny Amendola Eugene Monroe Andy Levitre Menelik Watson Muhammad Wilkerson Lamarr Houston Phil Taylor Brian Orakpo Dion Jordan Brent Grimes Jairus Byrd DanoooME Seahawks Alfred Morris Rob Gronkowski Sidney Rice Matt Kalil James Carpenter Max Unger Jordan Gross Connor Barwin James Laurinaitis Nick Roach Cortland Finnegan Antoine Winfield Dashon Goldson Kam Chancellor [/table]

Best offense: the Cardinals have the best QB (Brees) and a great running combo of Rice behind Leach, but they have the weakest WR and OL. The Seahawks have a top RB in Morris, the game's best TE in Gronk, and a great offensive line, but no QB yet. The Rams might have the best combo, with a top young QB in Newton, a great WR in Fitzgerald, some intriguing rookie pass-catchers in Ertz and Patterson, and a solid o-line, or it could be the 49ers with Eli throwing to Wallace and Amendola. I just named all the teams, didn't I?

Best defense: the 49ers have a great-looking front seven, between DL Wilkerson, Houston, and Taylor and OLBs Orakpo and Jordan, and Grimes and Byrd is a good beginning to a secondary.

Style of play: No pattern. Some RBs, some TEs, some receivers, some youth, some age, some secondaries, some pass rushers. There are football players who play football on all the teams.

 

[Phragle]

Shit I'm at the WBC game. Gonna have to pick a few more WRs in a few hours. Sorry to slow things up.

 

5 wide - all game, baby!

 

[Old Fart Tree]

You know this.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table AFC East]Name Team QB RB TE WR WR LT C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB ILB OLB OLB CB CB FS SS Eck'sSneakyCheese Patriots Nick Foles Torrey Smith Tavon Austin Terron Armstead Bobby Massie J.J. Watt Datone Jones Michael Brockers Luke Kuechly Mychal Kendricks Akeem Ayers Bjoern Werner Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Harrison Smith Titoschew Bills Ben Roethlisberger Kyle Rudolph Julio Jones Antonio Brown Nate Solder Alex Mack Todd Herremans Jabaal Sheard B.J. Raji Ray McDonald Sean Weatherspoon DeAndre Levy Jimmy Smith Matt Elam RedOctober3829 Jets Geno Smith Marshawn Lynch Dennis Pitta Marques Colston Jeremy Kerley Andrew Whitworth David DeCastro Marcus Cannon Kroy Biermann John Abraham Navarro Bowman D'Qwell Jackson Aldon Smith Janoris Jenkins ElCaballitoMVP Dolphins Trent Richardson Dwayne Allen Keenan Allen Ryan Clady Mike Pouncey Larry Warford Michael Johnson Cameron Heyward Star Lotulelei Donald Butler Clay Matthews Dee Milliner Alfonzo Dennard Reggie Nelson [/table]

Best offense: the Bills have Roethlisberger, the only proven QB in the division, but they also have a great receiver combo in Jones and Brown and a solid O-line.

Best defense: the pieces may not all quite fit together, but the collection of young defensive talent on the Patriots - Watt, Kuechly, Smith, Brockers, Rodgers-Cromartie, and rookies Werner and Jones, is serious.

Style of play: Hybrid defenses? Or incoherent? The Patriots' D has been the subject of debate on this thread, but look at the other teams: the Jets have a pair of 4-3 DEs matched up with 3-4 LBs, and the Dolphins are also mixing-and-matching in their front 7. Also, a ton of rookies in key roles in this division: Armstead, Austin, Jones, and Werner on the Pats, Elam on the Bills, Geno on the Jets, and K. Allen, Warford, Lotulelei, and Milliner on the Fish.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table AFC North]Name Team QB RB RB TE WR WR WR LT LG RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB ILB OLB OLB CB CB FS SS soxfan121 Bengals Tom Brady Victor Cruz Kendall Wright Steve Smith Mike Adams Mike Iupati Brandon Moore Phil Loadholt Cameron Jordan Corey Liuget Ahtyba Rubin LaMarr Woodley Ahmad Brooks William Moore Super Nomario Ravens Colin Kaepernick Lance Kendricks Michael Crabtree Hakeem Nicks Anthony Castonzo Alex Boone Anthony Davis Richard Seymour Quinton Coples Haloti Ngata Jesse Williams Bruce Irvin Stephon Gilmore Kenny Vaccaro SeoulSoxFan Steelers Russell Wilson C.J. Spiller Ben Tate Coby Fleener T.Y. Hilton Tyron Smith Kelechi Osemele Derek Wolfe Alex Carrington Vontaze Burfict Dannell Ellerbe Justin Houston Reshad Jones Mark Barron KennyF'ingPowers / SMU_Sox Browns DeMarco Murray Dwayne Bowe Greg Jennings Michael Roos Jon Asamoah Cordy Glenn Charles Johnson Carlos Dunlap Kyle Williams Patrick Willis Arthur Brown Lardarius Webb Xavier Rhodes Chris Clemons [/table]

Best offense: Some good offenses here. Brady throwing to anybody is a good offense, and he's got some good receivers with the Bengals. The best receiving group is the Ravens', and Kaepernick is no slouch either. Nor is Russell Wilson with the Steelers, and he's got a great tandem of RBs in Spiller and Tate.

Best defense: the Browns missed out on the QB lottery but the D is stacked.

Style of play: the Browns are a traditional AFC North squad, with a tough D and a just-enough O ... and everyone else isn't.

 

[Super Nomario]

[table AFC South]Name Team QB RB TE WR WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB OLB CB CB FS SS JerBear Texans Matt Ryan Jermichael Finley Brandon Lloyd Anquan Boldin Brandon Albert Nick Mangold Reid Fragel Kamerion Wimbley Linval Joseph Paul Soliai Derrick Johnson Zach Brown Brandon Browner Tyvon Branch Turrable Jaguars Peyton Manning Stevan Ridley Andre Johnson Justin Blackmon Brian Hartline Bryant McKinnie Eric Wood Marshall Yanda Elvis Dumervil Randy Starks Curtis Lofton Wesley Woodyard Tim Jennings Thomas DeCoud Scoops Bolling / phragle Titans Robert Griffin III Zach Miller Percy Harvin Lane Johnson Ben Grubbs Clint Boling Sam Baker Calais Campbell Fletcher Cox Dan Williams Sean Lee Sam Shields Chris Culliver Rahim Moore MarcSullivaFan Colts Matt Stafford Eric Decker James Jones Lance Moore Luke Joeckel David Baas Marcus Gilbert DeMarcus Ware Cliff Avril Desmond Bryant Red Bryant Bruce Carter Morris Claiborne Earl Thomas [/table]

Best offense: the Jaguars have Peyton, the division's only RB in Ridley, and good WR. The Titans have dynamic young talent in RGIII and Harvin and probably the division's best OL.

Best defense: the Jaguars have great cover guys but not much of a pass rush. The Colts have a stacked D-line but are putting a lot of faith in Claiborne.

Style of play: Four franchise quarterbacks ... and we have three rookie tackles in Fragel, Johnson, and Joeckel, and the ancient McKinnie protecting Manning's blindside. Can the rookies develop quickly? Can McKinnie hang on? Or is the division going to be decided by the last quarterback standing?

 

[Old Fart Tree]

Certain questions echo through history. Chicken or Egg? To be or not to be? What would Al Davis do?

It is the latter that concerns me now. I never met Al, but if he was up against a deadline for the picks necessary to separate the Raiders even further from the pack of shitty, no talent-having teams in the AFC West, I have to imagine that he would pour himself a big glass of napa valley pinot, make himself a grilled cheese, and think about suing his business partners. I have no evidence to support this, but doesn't Al strike you as the kind of guy who enjoyed a good grilled cheese?

Paul Soliai is who we're taking. I edited my post after initially picking someone else. Isn't that the kind of thing Al would do? Hopefully no one saw it. If you did? I'll fucking sue you and move my team to Stockton. Fuck you.


Next pick upcoming.

 

[Old Fart Tree]

And to shore up the linebacker core, David Hawthorne, OLB.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Steelers' will have a tough time generating pass rush from the front-four, but relatively speaking OL on all teams aren't their areas of strength.
 
I'll put up my O against any D here, but may lose more than a few games in the 34-42 fashion with average to below average CBs (none are picked) going against the likes of Cruz/Wright, Crabtree/Nicks, and Bowe/Jennings.
 
Thankfully the outstanding LB crew of Burfict, Ellerbe, and Houston can all generate rush, and if Mark Barron can improve on play recognition (a big if, but he's still young) it'll help Reshad Jones tremendously. 

• Vs. Bengals: Brady will pick us apart all day with Cruz, and Barron may be in for a long day. However, Spiller & Hilton may have big days of their own against Woodley/Brooks/no name CBs.
• Vs. Ravens: Nicks scare me much more than Crabtree. Ngata, Coples, Seymour + Irvin may be the toughest to handle of all other DL. Best counter would be to setup play action against over-pursuing/impatient Irvin and young Gilmore.
• Vs. Browns: Again, Bowe and Jennings may each have 100 yard gains, and I always liked Murray. I have to hope for a low scoring game with yet-to-be-named QB, and try to pick on the tweener Rhodes.

Summary: 

• Strength: multi-dimensional offense with Russell, Spiller, and Hilton. Young and athletic LB corp.
• Weakness: no front-four pressure, combined with average/replacement-level corners is bad news. OL corner pieces have high-upside, but are young and got lots to prove.

P.S. I still defend Tyron Smith as a very high upside LT - his second half was miles ahead of his first, and still very young and coachable.

 

[PBDWake]

Certain questions echo through history. Chicken or Egg? To be or not to be? What would Al Davis do?

It is the latter that concerns me now. I never met Al, but if he was up against a deadline for the picks necessary to separate the Raiders even further from the pack of shitty, no talent-having teams in the AFC West, I have to imagine that he would pour himself a big glass of napa valley pinot, make himself a grilled cheese, and think about suing his business partners. I have no evidence to support this, but doesn't Al strike you as the kind of guy who enjoyed a good grilled cheese?

Paul Soliai is who we're taking. I edited my post after initially picking someone else. Isn't that the kind of thing Al would do? Hopefully no one saw it. If you did? I'll fucking sue you and move my team to Stockton. Fuck you.


Next pick upcoming.

I look forward to your next edit, as maybe you should have kept the original player, since Jerbear took Soliai a few picks ago

 

[bsj]

We've been going young. But we need a veteran anchor on the o line.

Jonathan Goodwin.

He is a top 10 center that slipped here prob due to age. We will take him. He should be able to give us 2-3 years of high level play.

 

[BoSoxFink]

You left out a division nomario

 

[bsj]

I didn't notice until after I picked that oft needs t make 1 different pick. Since he already has a center going to leave my pick on the board I guess

 

[Super Nomario]

You left out a division nomario

I was waiting for OFT to pick, as that division was one pick shy.

[table AFC West]Name Team QB RB TE WR WR WR LT LG C RG RT DE DE DT DT ILB ILB OLB CB CB FS SS OldFartTree Raiders Aaron Rodgers Darren McFadden Wes Welker Miles Austin Kenny Britt Russell Okung Carl Nicks Ryan Kalil Josh Sitton Justin Tuck Henry Melton Jonathan Babineaux Jon Beason David Hawthorne BoSoxFink Chiefs Josh Freeman Chris Johnson Roddy White Andre Roberts Jake Long Richie Incognito Michael Oher Jason Pierre-Paul Everson Griffin Tyson Alualu Jo-Lonn Dunbar Joe Haden Aqib Talib Malcolm Jenkins SPDougie Chargers Jake Locker Doug Martin Reggie Wayne Emmanuel Sanders D'Brickashaw Ferguson Rodney Hudson Riley Reiff Melvin Ingram Geno Atkins Sharrif Floyd Brandon Spikes Darrelle Revis Tarell Brown Stevie Brown Dollar Broncos Philip Rivers Heath Miller Golden Tate Malcolm Floyd Jared Veldheer John Greco John Sullivan Jason Hatcher Jurrell Casey Jerrell Freeman Perry Riley Lavonte David Patrick Peterson Morgan Burnett [/table]
 
Best offense: All four teams have good receivers and good offensive lines, but only the Raiders have an elite QB (Rodgers)
 
Best defense: The Chiefs and Chargers have almost the same formula - a dominant pass-rusher up front (JPP / Atkins), a tackle machine in the linebacking crew (Dunbar / Spikes), and a great CB pair (Haden & Talib / Revis & Brown)
 
Style of play: This division features four solid offensive lines; everyone has a good LT and two other decent linemen. WR talent is also a strong point. Can the pass rushes break through? 

 

[Super Nomario]

I PM'd OFT in case no one had yet.

 

[soxfan121]

Should we give OFT a full clock - he was up late last night - or should I jump in with a pick? I vote wait. 

 

[Super Nomario]

Should we give OFT a full clock - he was up late last night - or should I jump in with a pick? I vote wait.

His time's up, right? 6 hours yesterday = 3 today, plus 3 hours this morning, and wrap-around picks only get one clock. But you're next so you if you want to wait, we wait.

A certain hot-dog eating ex-Bengal QB just came off the board in the RSPWP league. Seventh round, pick #198.