he has a no trade clause (which is how we got him in the first placeI mean, Hosmer as a platoon 1B/DH wasn't my first choice, but... no one wanted him at the league minimum?
Completely forgot about this, thanks for the reminder.he has a no trade clause (which is how we got him in the first place
Better question for me is why they didn't just DFA one of their other fungible relievers, like Darwinzon Hernandez.Mills looks like he has promise based on his minor league track record. Only 41 innings so far in his spotty majors appearances. He is already 27 though. Worth trading for and dumping an effectively "free" Hosmer? I need some convincing.
He'll be traded in the next day or two.I would have DFA’d one of the many crap relievers on the 40 instead of a cost controlled real MLB player
That’s my guess as well. This seems procedural to me.He'll be traded in the next day or two.
He'll be traded in the next day or two.
According to mlbtr, Hosmer has a full no-trade that kicked in after the deal from San Diego. He can reject any trade they try to make. He also can reject any waiver claim put in on him, should it come to that, and thus become a free agent able to sign anywhere.That’s my guess as well. This seems procedural to me.
Agreed. I still think this can be a good offseason, but some of these 40 man moves (or lack thereof) are really weird.Beyond weird to me that Hosmer was disposable enough that he could be DFA'd in an inconsequential reliever swap but not disposable enough to be booted last month in lieu of the three Rule 5 guys who got taken. The process and timing by which guys get moved off this roster continues to be inscrutable.
Chaim Bloom to Mookie Betts: Who needs you?With every transaction I become more perplexed on what Ryan Braiser has over ownership to remain on the 40.
This is about the 16th time he’s been an obvious DFA and they just won’t do it.
But once one of your players is selected, you are allowed to protect 3 more. Oh, wait, it's not an expansion draft?Seems like pretty criminal roster management given they just had Ward taken 1.1 in the Rule 5.
Probably quite soon, like deal-is-in-place soon. He’d be able to choose where he goes if he clears.He'll be traded in the next day or two.
Isn't Billy Beane who John Henry wanted from the very beginning?First thing that came to my mind...Bloom really is fashioning himself as today's Billy Beane...Mills::Chad Bradford.
He can choose where he goes now, because of the no-tradeProbably quite soon, like deal-is-in-place soon. He’d be able to choose where he goes if he clears.
He can assent to where he goes, probably functionally the same thing to him. But since the AAV hit would be ours if he’s DFA’d, I think we’d keep him aboard into spring training sooner than straight cutting him.He can choose where he goes now, because of the no-trade
I feel like people generally misunderstand this little corner of baseball maneuvering. If Ward was protected and then DFAd now, BOS almost certainly loses him for good. As it is, there's still a solid chance that WAS chooses to return him at some point mid-season rather than carry him all season. The argument against this is that WAS is going to be bad anyway so they will just keep him no matter what, but BAL returned Nestor Cortes Jr to NY in April one season after taking him in April.Beyond weird to me that Hosmer was disposable enough that he could be DFA'd in an inconsequential reliever swap but not disposable enough to be booted last month in lieu of the three Rule 5 guys who got taken. The process and timing by which guys get moved off this roster continues to be inscrutable.
Wouldn't they just rather have Pratto hit .220 and hit 28 jacks than play Hosmer? But you might be on to something. Give Pratto a few months in AAA to get his sh*t together. He was bad upon returning to AAA last season. Hosmer is projected for a 109 wRC+ this year, so he has some value. Plus veteran leadership!I wonder if he'd want to go back to KC. They don't really have a DH and their backup 1B OPS'd .679 last year.
Yeah, which is why you'd think they would have run this past him before the DFA move. I mean, I'd like to think they did ... but, then again, I like to see the best in peopleHe can assent to where he goes, probably functionally the same thing to him. But since the AAV hit would be ours if he’s DFA’d, I think we’d keep him aboard into spring training sooner than straight cutting him.
They got Hunter Dozier listed as their backup 1B right now so yeah. I mean the guy is making no money so whats the harm in having him as a seat warmer?Wouldn't they just rather have Pratto hit .220 and hit 28 jacks than play Hosmer? But you might be on to something. Give Pratto a few months in AAA to get his sh*t together. He was bad upon returning to AAA last season. Hosmer is projected for a 109 wRC+ this year, so he has some value. Plus veteran leadership!
Yeah, it's hard to buy into a guy DFA'd by the Royals as one of the 7, 8 or 9 new players management said would have a meaningful impact ... but who knows?Can't believe we got him!
Chaim didn't claim they'd be any GOOD, just that we'd acquire themYeah, it's hard to buy into a guy DFA'd by the Royals as one of the 7, 8 or 9 new players management said would have a meaningful impact ... but who knows?
Brasier's FIP last year was 3.61, with a good K/W ratio and struck out a hitter an inning. He was unlucky with a .335 babip.With every transaction I become more perplexed on what Ryan Braiser has over ownership to remain on the 40.
This is about the 16th time he’s been an obvious DFA and they just won’t do it.
I get folks are frustrated, but this is just silly.In the end, the Hosmer trade was effectively Jay Groome for Max Ferguson and Corey Rosier. Groome ended the season going 3-2 over 5 starts with a 3.16 ERA in the hitter friendly PCL. Ferguson and Rosier both played 23 games for Greenville with a .181 and .163 BA.
I’d add this had been Groome’s most successful season with Boston since his TJ surgery. Dug up the trade article and Bloom’s comments feel oddly familiar:
On Monday, Red Sox chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom clarified that Boston still had work to do. “The puzzle is incomplete right now,” Bloom said, per MassLive — following the Christian Vázquez trade with the Houston Astros.
It's not done, Hosmer will still likely be traded in the next week, I think anyway (this is a very unusual case).In the end, the Hosmer trade was effectively Jay Groome for Max Ferguson and Corey Rosier.