Red Sox name Mike Hazen GM, Frank Wren Senior VP
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Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 19s19 seconds ago
If Mike Hazen is the new GM in Boston, as @JonHeymanCBS is reporting, a lot of the Red Sox's best front-office types are expected to stay.
If Mike Hazen is the new GM in Boston, as @JonHeymanCBS is reporting, a lot of the Red Sox's best front-office types are expected to stay.
Strong choice and DD continues to send the message to the org that the top changes didn't happen because they think the FO is rotten and needs a reboot. Keep the amateur/international scouting and development organs as intact as possible.
Boston Red Sox @RedSox 18s18 seconds ago
The #RedSox today named Mike Hazen the team’s Senior Vice President/General Manager.
The #RedSox today named Mike Hazen the team’s Senior Vice President/General Manager.
Great move, one I was hoping for. DD recognizes that he has a lot of great assets to work with here and sweeping out the team that brought in those assets would be counterproductive. And Hazen is a legit GM candidate, here or elsewhere.
I do hope DD does bring in some new blood, but he should do it to supplement baseball ops, not to rebuild it.
I do hope DD does bring in some new blood, but he should do it to supplement baseball ops, not to rebuild it.
The is the only move that I would have been happy with. Our farm system is insanely successful and to both retain that structure and the guy who has headed up that ship is beyond incredible.
About as perfect an outcome as we could have hoped for under the circumstances.
About as perfect an outcome as we could have hoped for under the circumstances.
Oh ok. In this initial comment you did not seem to have much enthusiasm about the choice. Guess we can't decipher feeling from a computer screen. LOLSmiling Joe Hesketh said:
I am beginning to get incredibly encouraged about the future at Fenway - from a players and management angle.
Dombrowski passes his first major test... not that I'm surprised, but as others note above, this seems to indicate an appreciation of what has been working well in this organization, and a disinclination to make change for the sake of change.
Best possible outcome. Really like the move. Hazen will be Dombrowski's successor if all things go as planned.
In the words of Jane Austen, this seems like "the happiest, wisest, most reasonable end".
I agree that Dombrowski keeps making the Sox' decision to hire him look good. Here's to the next golden era.
I agree that Dombrowski keeps making the Sox' decision to hire him look good. Here's to the next golden era.
I wonder if they interviewed McCracken with any thought of hiring him
Or just to satisfy requirements
Or just to satisfy requirements
This is the kind of thing that makes me legitimately believe that none of this was ever about Cherington. They needed a guy for Lucchino's baseball ops role and Henry clearly loves DD. Ben became collateral damage.Savin Hillbilly said:
Either way, though, I'm pumped by this news. May the next 5 years be the golden era we've dreamt it to be.
Amen. The fact that Hazen seemed destined to get a GM somewhere else this offseason makes it even better. i would hate to see "Red Sox West" forming in addition to the "Red Sox Midwest" that Theo has already built.AlNipper49 said:
I'd imagine there was also an element of wanting a baseball guy specifically to provide more oversight on baseball ops though, which is an indictment on how Cherington has performed.Laser Show said:
That said, given how his teams have done in every season but 2013 it seems like a pretty valid indictment.
I like the move. Same reasons people stated above. I think it also means that he's likely to keep Farrell on either in the FO or the dugout along with Lovullo and staff.
Not only a good move - but a quick move. It would have been disheartening to see this thing dragged out, allowing Boston media too much time to trash the process.
On to 2016.
On to 2016.
GM/1B is the new market inefficiency?soxhop411 said:
I think they goofed and meant Hanley. This is great news today overall.
Ken Rosenthal brought up a good point this afternoon regarding Torey Lovullo. If another team after the season wants to interview him, they will have to make a decision on him soon. I'm sure this scenario has been brought up internally already, so you might see some movement on this situation sooner rather than later. I think they will keep Farrell with the organization in some capacity if he is not manager given his relationship with Mike Hazen.mauidano said:
I think Hazen would have been my third choice, after Girsch and Dipoto.
If hiring Hazen helps keep the Sox international scouting team intact, then it's a good thing. If hiring Hazen keeps Allard Baird on the payroll, though, I'm not so sure.
Missing on drafts and international signings isn't a good thing. But it doesn't cripple a franchise the way consistent misses in handing out 8-9 figure salaries does, either.
If hiring Hazen helps keep the Sox international scouting team intact, then it's a good thing. If hiring Hazen keeps Allard Baird on the payroll, though, I'm not so sure.
Missing on drafts and international signings isn't a good thing. But it doesn't cripple a franchise the way consistent misses in handing out 8-9 figure salaries does, either.
I wrote in an article that I thought he would make a good GM candidate with his prior experience as the Dir of Player Development in Cleveland. I still think he's well suited for a FO position. IIRC, there was speculation when he first came back that he was being groomed for the FO. I have no idea where he would fit in the FO the way it's set up now.mauidano said:
I think he's done with his treatments this week coming up.
Lovullo will be a manager somewhere in 2016. I certainly don't want them to fire Farrell, some in-game decisions aside, but I like what Farrell and Lovullo, and the entire staff, has done bringing the kids along without overwhelming them. And, having someone like Farrell in the FO, with his dugout experience can't hurt.
And thanks.
Lose Remerswaal said:
I'm normally cynical about that sort of thing, but I think it may have been genuine. Hazen's a player development type, as is McCracken. Both men have overseen highly successful farm systems. If Dombrowski knew that was the sort of GM he was interested in hiring, it makes sense for these two to be the shortlist.
Dipoto was signed to a three month contract and I'd be very surprised if he isn't hired as a GM. I didn't see the press conference yesterday where he was barely mentioned, but if Baird is let go, that would create the opening in the FO for Farrell.
absintheofmalaise said:
I think this is what I hope will happen now, based on yesterday's hiring of Hazen.
The Sox need to acquire pitching from the outside to contend in 2016-18, and since Hazen's background is player development, the front office absolutely needs to include a strong pitching evaluator to prepare assessments on the different options available to the team.
The Sox have played better ball under Lovullo, it's not a demotion, Farrell's strengths fit that role perfectly, and he probably could use the break from grueling travel next summer, anyway.
I agree with this.Buzzkill Pauley said:
It would be good to keep Farrell in the organization, I think, particularly as others have said with the team grooming a large crop of young pitchers at the AAA and MLB level over the next few seasons.
Do we have a consensus on how we feel Farrell did in that department during the last few years? Some notable hits and misses, basically.
@ScottLauber: Princeton coach recalls Mike Hazen's road to becoming #RedSox general manager - http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/clubhouse_insider/2015/09/princeton_coach_recalls_mike_hazens_road_to_becoming
Sorry, guys.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 3s3 seconds ago
The Red Sox have added Frank Wren to their front office as a senior vice president.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 3s3 seconds ago
The Red Sox have added Frank Wren to their front office as a senior vice president.
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 13s14 seconds ago
(The implication seems to be that Wren will be a Dombrowski aide, not reporting to Hazen, but won't be a negotiator like Hazen will be.)
(The implication seems to be that Wren will be a Dombrowski aide, not reporting to Hazen, but won't be a negotiator like Hazen will be.)
I don't mind this. The main issue with Wren was that the Sox would lose x amount of people in the system. With Wren he adds more to the table than someone like Baird
Dombrowski clearly understands the value of having a fall guy in the FO for message boarders can pin the unsuccessful moves on.
nvalvo said:
I'm glad to hear someone's been listening to Cris Carter.
Now at least the organization has someone tough-minded enough to trade Zeke Spruill.