Red Sox sign David Murphy to minor league deal

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Engel Beltre is currently a free agent. Sign him too and we'll have recovered all the pieces of the Gagne trade.
 

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He'd be a great platoon partner for Young if it comes to that, with a career .795 OPS against RHP (2015: .735).

I like how this Dombrowski fellow operates.
 

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He'd be a great platoon partner for Young if it comes to that, with a career .795 OPS against RHP (2015: .735).

I like how this Dombrowski fellow operates.
Exactly. I love these small, low-cost/no-risk gap filler transactions. Assuming he doesn't have an early opt out (no earlier than, say, May 1), he's good insurance against early injury or abject performance failure by JBJ or Rusney.
 

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Exactly. I love these small, low-cost/no-risk gap filler transactions. Assuming he doesn't have an early opt out (no earlier than, say, May 1), he's good insurance against early injury or abject performance failure by JBJ or Rusney.
Pretty sure those opt-outs are standard issue for guys with enough MLB service time to be free agents. Team doesn't really have a choice about it.

I like it as a depth move, but here's hoping we never see a need for a Young/Murphy platoon. Ever.
 

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Thanks. I just used the Google... looks like a player in Murphy's situation signing now (an Article XX-B free agent) gets a retention bonus if he starts in the minors and the right to opt out on June 1 if not promoted. Which still sounds like good insurance to me...
 

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So, Murphy's opt-out is Sunday. What are the chances they go with the true L-R platoon with Young and send Rusney down for more whatever you send a 28-year-old down for.
 

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So, Murphy's opt-out is Sunday. What are the chances they go with the true L-R platoon with Young and send Rusney down for more whatever you send a 28-year-old down for.
I think pretty close to zero. Murphy was mostly injury insurance, with a little what if one of the non-Betts outfielders seemed completely lost insurance. Neither of those happened.
 

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I didn't realize that Murphy had a perfectly competent season last year. Platooning him with Young and letting Rusney play everyday at Pawrucket isn't a terrible idea. They'd need to make a 40 man slot, who would that jeopardize?
 

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A couple 40-man victims could be Coyle, Hernandez or Brentz. Not sure how close Workman is but he's only 9-10 months removed from TJS, so they could put him on the 60-day DL and free up a spot.
 

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Saw on Trade Rumors that a number of teams are interested in Murphy, with the Orioles possibly thinking about releasing the guy they got from the KBO and signing Murphy to play left.
 

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In John Farrell's shoes, I'd send Rusney to Pawtucket and keep Murphy.
And who's the casualty to get Murphy on the 40-man? Frankly, I'm not seeing the appeal of keeping Murphy around if he's not going to be stashed depth in Pawtucket. He's barely been replacement level for the last three years (-0.5 bWAR, 0.1 fWAR in total) and hasn't exactly torn things up this spring. If Castillo were Mookie's age and they felt he needed more development time, maybe send him down. But he's 28...time to shit or get off the pot with him, and the way to do that is to let him play for the first couple months at least.
 

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And who's the casualty to get Murphy on the 40-man? Frankly, I'm not seeing the appeal of keeping Murphy around if he's not going to be stashed depth in Pawtucket. He's barely been replacement level for the last three years (-0.5 bWAR, 0.1 fWAR in total) and hasn't exactly torn things up this spring. If Castillo were Mookie's age and they felt he needed more development time, maybe send him down. But he's 28...time to shit or get off the pot with him, and the way to do that is to let him play for the first couple months at least.
See post 21, above.
 

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And who's the casualty to get Murphy on the 40-man? Frankly, I'm not seeing the appeal of keeping Murphy around if he's not going to be stashed depth in Pawtucket. He's barely been replacement level for the last three years (-0.5 bWAR, 0.1 fWAR in total) and hasn't exactly torn things up this spring. If Castillo were Mookie's age and they felt he needed more development time, maybe send him down. But he's 28...time to shit or get off the pot with him, and the way to do that is to let him play for the first couple months at least.
I get the shit/pot argument but Murphy is a professional player and Rusney, to me, is a tremendous crapshoot and one who has looked pretty terrible until now in really all respects except pure athleticism.

Rusney's last productive season in Cuba was in 2011. He hit .332 with 16 homers in 95 games. In 2012, he dipped to around 65 games, .276 and 6 homers. He missed all of 2013 with injury and then played 18 games in 2014. Then Ben Cherington et al decided to give him $72 mm. It remains, in my view, the worst signing of Ben's tenure. Each of Pablo, Hanley and Porcello has his "charms," but despite the increased coin, each of those players had a major league track record and something to recommend him other than minor league performance in 2010 and 2011 before falling off and getting injured.

If you're reading a level of disgust with the signing, you got me. And I fully admit that my incredulousness is affecting my view of this Murphy thing. Make no mistake, I realize what Murphy is and is not; I just don't feel like they should compound the original Castillo sin. Send him to AAA until his play down there forces the issue. The money has already been committed.
 
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The impression I'm getting from Dombrowski and his regime is that they are not going to waste time with guys like Rusney who are not getting the job done. Farrell has already said he is going to manage with more urgency this year which says to me that they are going to be treating games earlier in the year more seriously, and certain players may have shorter leashes.

What I think that means, is that they will shorten the traditional April and May evaluation period, and go with the hot hand, unlike Cherington's more patient approach (ie more time to Hanley's LF transition).

Obviously it won't affect every position on the field, but certainly the corners and left field, maybe even the catcher position (or *gasp* occasional right handed bats at DH, if Papi starts as slowly. Not advocating necessarily, but could be on the table.). If Rusney blows worse than Sandoval, then I could see Shaw in left and Panda starting everyday at 3rd.
 
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The impression I'm getting from Dombrowski and his regime is that they are not going to waste time with guys like Rusney who are not getting the job done.
I understand the sense of urgency coming from Dombrowski, but this is also the guy who really liked what he saw from the Betts, Bradley, Castillo outfield last season. Plus, he’s smart enough to know that “playing the hot hand” is somewhat of a fool’s errand as one never knows when a hot or cold streak will end. I don’t see the infatuation with Murphy, and if Castillo isn’t getting it done then Young and Holt can take some of his at-bats.
 

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Obviously it won't affect every position on the field, but certainly the corners and left field, maybe even the catcher position (or *gasp* occasional right handed bats at DH, if Papi starts as slowly. Not advocating necessarily, but could be on the table.). If Rusney blows worse than Sandoval, then I could see Shaw in left and Panda starting everyday at 3rd.
I don't think there's any need to gasp. Papi's retirement announcement changes the conversation about his playing time. The one thing you can take as a given as that as long as he's healthy he'll make at least one start in every road series, especially if it's the last road series of the year with that team. But other than that, all bets are off. There's no need to pad his stats; he's already passed 500 HR--what's the difference to his Hall case whether he winds up with 515 or 525? He may stay in the lineup when he's red-hot, but otherwise, I think he'll sit quite a bit, especially vs. LHP. I'd put the over/under on his total starts at 130, and that might be too high.
 

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I don't think there's any need to gasp. Papi's retirement announcement changes the conversation about his playing time. The one thing you can take as a given as that as long as he's healthy he'll make at least one start in every road series, especially if it's the last road series of the year with that team. But other than that, all bets are off. There's no need to pad his stats; he's already passed 500 HR--what's the difference to his Hall case whether he winds up with 515 or 525? He may stay in the lineup when he's red-hot, but otherwise, I think he'll sit quite a bit, especially vs. LHP. I'd put the over/under on his total starts at 130, and that might be too high.
Logically one would hope so - but it would be surprising if he was blasé about it.