Second Guesser's Club - Just A Few More To Go

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absintheofmalaise

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[tablegrid= Probable Starters ]   W L G GS IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP LOB% GB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP Game 1: 7:10 Alex Cobb 9 8 25 25 153.1 8.28 2.64 0.53 0.278 77.20% 56.10% 7.40% 2.82 3.11 3.32   Clay Buchholz 8 9 26 26 156.2 7.01 2.99 0.98 0.314 63.40% 46.60% 9.90% 5.29 4.13 4.07   Game 2: 7:10 Jake Odorizzi 11 12 30 30 165 9.33 3.05 1.04 0.29 74.20% 29.60% 8.50% 3.98 3.66 3.85   Anthony Ranaudo 3 3 6 6 32.1 3.62 4.18 2.78 0.221 85.30% 33.60% 18.20% 5.29 7.74 5.83                                   Game 3: 7:10 Jeremy Hellickson 1 4 12 12 61.1 7.63 3.08 1.03 0.304 74.80% 35.30% 8.80% 3.96 4.04 4.18   Allen Webster 4 3 10 10 52 5.37 4.67 0.52 0.294 62.70% 44.20% 5.50% 5.54 4.59 5.15 [/tablegrid]
 

Plympton91

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Farrell's late hook blows another game and screws up what should have been a huge confidence boost for Buchholz.
 

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Plympton91 said:
Farrell's late hook blows another game and screws up what should have been a huge confidence boost for Buchholz.
I think that's more on Cespedes' shoulders .. He should have caught that ball ..

One more reason to move him to RF .. I think he is a little wall shy.
 

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Clay Buchholz is a thirty year old man who has pitched 150 games in the major leagues. I don't think he needs a confidence boost. Certainly the outcome of one game at the tail end of one season isn't going to affect him the next season.
 

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Plympton91 said:
Farrell's late hook blows another game and screws up what should have been a huge confidence boost for Buchholz.
 
Certainly you're not suggesting he should have been pulled after throwing a 72-pitch shutout through 7?  That leaves him an uncaught-but-very-catchable fly to LF from having a shutout through 8.  I doubt that would shake his confidence (nor would teh fact that a reliever let 2 IRs score on his tab), but then again, I have a cheap television set that does not enable me to read his mind.  While I realize he's not a rocket scientist, I think Buchholz knows he pitched pretty damn well, and while I am not a pitching expert, he seems to have mostly un-done whatever compensating he did from his injury and late-season pitching in 2013 that really screwed him up this season. 
 

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With Boston's loss and Miami's win last night, the Red Sox are now locked into a protected top 10 draft pick, so there's that.
 

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BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
I think that's more on Cespedes' shoulders .. He should have caught that ball ..

One more reason to move him to RF .. I think he is a little wall shy.
 
He's played one+ month in front of the wall, with no spring training time.  He might be better suited for RF, depending on who else is in the Sox OF next year, but give him a spring training at Fenway Junior, where he can get used to the Wall, before giving up on him there.
 

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Lose Remerswaal said:
He's played one+ month in front of the wall, with no spring training time.  He might be better suited for RF, depending on who else is in the Sox OF next year, but give him a spring training at Fenway Junior, where he can get used to the Wall, before giving up on him there.
Probably true .. The comment was also grounded in the ideal Fenway RF .. Good range and a cannon arm .. Although, at this point I'm really not sold on Cespedes range so maybe LF is the best spot for him.
 

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joe dokes said:
 
Certainly you're not suggesting he should have been pulled after throwing a 72-pitch shutout through 7?  That leaves him an uncaught-but-very-catchable fly to LF from having a shutout through 8.  I doubt that would shake his confidence (nor would teh fact that a reliever let 2 IRs score on his tab), but then again, I have a cheap television set that does not enable me to read his mind.  While I realize he's not a rocket scientist, I think Buchholz knows he pitched pretty damn well, and while I am not a pitching expert, he seems to have mostly un-done whatever compensating he did from his injury and late-season pitching in 2013 that really screwed him up this season. 
Thanks, I've been traveling on business and following through box scores. Your account certainly makes the 8th inning sound a lot less disastrous than it looked.
 

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Brock Holt, Napoli, and Ortiz are all expected to be shut down for the season.
 
Holt probably doesn't have enough time to get cleared from concussion protocol, Napoli is getting a jump on healing up for next season, and Ortiz is deal with wrist inflammation. He says it feels similar to what he felt before he suffered a partial tear of his tendon sheath in 2008.  
 
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