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Doug Beerabelli

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That's why most private clubs have "insurance" where the cost of the hole in one is crowd sourced to all the members. You can get drunk with everyone in the clubhouse and not feel sick to your stomach the whole time.
I may have shared this before. My club’s system had those who opt in, pay $3 per Hole in one. You get a free drink for that, but you have to use it within 3 days. The funds leftover by any unused drinks go to the Junior golf program.

Most members participate, so you can celebrate with the Ace if you are at the club that day. But you still get something if you aren’t.
 

FL4WL3SS

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  1. Bandon Dunes
  2. Bandon Trails
  3. Old Mac
  4. Sheep Ranch
  5. Pac Dunes

That's my personal rankings based on which courses I enjoy the most.
Man Sheep Ranch over any of the other courses feels really dirty to me. Really enjoyed it the first time, pretty boring after that.

  1. Trails
  2. Bandon
  3. Preserve
  4. Pacific
  5. Old Mac
  6. Sheep Ranch
 
I'm pretty stunned by the consensus here. My only trip to Bandon was way back in 2001, and as such I've only played Bandon Dunes and Pacific Dunes, but the latter is among my Top 5 courses I've ever played, whereas the former is great but easily several notches below Pacific. (There haven't been any significant changes to either course in the last 20 years, have there?)
 

FL4WL3SS

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I'm pretty stunned by the consensus here. My only trip to Bandon was way back in 2001, and as such I've only played Bandon Dunes and Pacific Dunes, but the latter is among my Top 5 courses I've ever played, whereas the former is great but easily several notches below Pacific. (There haven't been any significant changes to either course in the last 20 years, have there?)
If you have only played them once, totally understand. Bandon is more playable and more enjoyable, so as someone that goes every year it ranks higher due to the amount of fun I have on it. Nothing more.

From a pure golf perspective, nothing beats Trails and Pacific is right there behind it.
 
FWIW, I think I played both Bandon and Pacific three or four times each on that one trip, so it wasn't a one-off thing as such. But yeah, I guess it's definitely a different strokes for different folks sort of thing. (Also, I now realize that I need to win the lottery and spend like a month at Bandon until my fingers bleed and all of my muscles have been pulled - I have to get back there!) :)
 

jercra

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Bandon is certainly much easier and has the a better closing stretch but I'm glad to see most recognize that Trails is the best actual golf course. There are no bad holes and it's a totally different course from the tips than it is up a set or two. It can be easy but it can be a monster in the wrong wind. If it had ocean views at all it would be universally ranked in the top 5 courses you can play in the US.

Old Mac has grown on me over the years. It's not for everyone, but golf architecture nerds will love it and of all the courses, it's the one where the season you go matters most. It's a very different course in January than it is in September due to the prevailing winds.

I'll say it again though, you can't go wrong at any of the courses there, including The Preserve and maybe even Shorty's since those are drunken gambling rounds after real golf.
 

E5 Yaz

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We need a SoSH golf outing at Bandon.

Anyway, today I had a (i hope) once in a lifetime experience. Playing partner has about 160 to the green, takes out a 6-iron and takes a few practice swings. He's coming in from the left side of the fairway to an elevated green.
He takes a mighty hack and hits ... me ... about 15 feet away ... due east ... in the cart. The went directly sideways and got me in the left ankle. No harm done, but I stayed well out of the way the rest of the day.

Anyone else have stories about being hit out there?
 

jercra

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Watched one of my good friends (former Bandon caddie to complete the connection) almost lost his sole remaining testicle while he was visiting me in Denver. We were coming down 15 and the group going up 16 we're in our fairway. We stood about 15 feet directly to the side of them. The guy took a mighty swing with a hybrid and hit it straight off the toe and hit my buddy right where his other testicle would have been had he still had it. Left a bruise on the inside of both thighs.

I also missed being killed by about 1/2" the day before I played with @Fl4wless in Seattle. My buddy wasn't very good but he can hit the ball pretty hard. I was standing right in front of him. Like 90* from him, watching his swing. Hit a straight shank 3-wood that sailed right by my temple. Like, I could feel the wind and hear the hiss from it it was as close to being killed on the course as I've been.
 

Dave Stapleton

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I think Trails also takes on an even more impressive feel after a round or two on the ocean. The elevation changes are breathtaking and the tall pines create an amazing backdrop.

On the golf front it’s one of those rare courses that presents a challenge for low handicaps while remaining really playable for the average golfer. Just a fun course.
 

Bongorific

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Watched one of my good friends (former Bandon caddie to complete the connection) almost lost his sole remaining testicle while he was visiting me in Denver. We were coming down 15 and the group going up 16 we're in our fairway. We stood about 15 feet directly to the side of them. The guy took a mighty swing with a hybrid and hit it straight off the toe and hit my buddy right where his other testicle would have been had he still had it. Left a bruise on the inside of both thighs.

I also missed being killed by about 1/2" the day before I played with @Fl4wless in Seattle. My buddy wasn't very good but he can hit the ball pretty hard. I was standing right in front of him. Like 90* from him, watching his swing. Hit a straight shank 3-wood that sailed right by my temple. Like, I could feel the wind and hear the hiss from it it was as close to being killed on the course as I've been.
Had this at a charity outing a few weeks back. Sitting in the cart with my buddy. Parked facing the next tee box, maybe 30 feet away. I thought we were behind the tees enough but the guy hitting set up pretty far back and was directly across from our cart. We really weren’t paying attention as we just picked up the on the go lunch.

Dude hit a missile right off the toe of his driver that want directly sideways toward us. I’ve never seen a ball take that angle. The ball flew so fast I could barely see it and it hit the hood of the cart. Luckily we had the windshield up as well. The sound of the ball hitting the cart sounded like an explosion.
 

kenneycb

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Dec 2, 2006
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It's fun being outside with friends and/or drinking while being outside with friends. I don't agree but assume that's a lot of the rationale. People also think I take things too seriously so YMMV.
 

FL4WL3SS

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I get it, I really do. I play with all levels of players (one of my best friends is a 20 right now), but at least be able to hit it past your own shadow and not put people in danger.
 

jercra

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I get it, I really do. I play with all levels of players (one of my best friends is a 20 right now), but at least be able to hit it past your own shadow and not put people in danger.
This stuff is fairly typical at charity/corporate scramble type events. There are usually people there that have never hit a ball before and are just in it for the networking or charity aspect. Also, and you know this, I can't begin to number the amount of times I've straight shanked a ball due right. It happens to the best of us (thought I'd never describe it as "fun").
 

ManicCompression

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People also need to play to improve. No one starts out at scratch. I had a buddy who started in March 2020 during the pandemic, was total dogshit at it, and now he's regularly shooting high 70s.
 

Dave Stapleton

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So … adding to the close call stories. I recently hosted a friend who’s an excellent player but put himself in a tough spot near a stone wall. He hit his shot square but not quite high enough to clear the stone wall and he nearly killed the caddie with the ricochet.

You might say the ball went …. Zzzzzzz …. omp
 

steveluck7

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Played with a buddy at Newport National last summer. He was a few yards behind a stone wall off the tee, I was ~15 yards to his right in the fairway waiting on him to hit. He smoked it right into the wall with an immediate ricochet right back at him. He didn’t have time to react. The ball went back through his legs. Would have been a fun shin fracture.
 

jercra

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Played with a buddy at Newport National last summer. He was a few yards behind a stone wall off the tee, I was ~15 yards to his right in the fairway waiting on him to hit. He smoked it right into the wall with an immediate ricochet right back at him. He didn’t have time to react. The ball went back through his legs. Would have been a fun shin fracture.
I had a friend hit it straight off the toe of his driver, off the tee marker and right back between his legs. Remarkably, that's not nearly the best "right between the legs" shot I've seen in person.

A few years ago I was playing in a match play event with the general public filling the course in front of our event (Colorado Golf Association team event). When I got to number 10, we had to wait for the group 8n front to tee off. The last guy in the group is hitting 3-wood and hits it right off the hotel and straight between his legs about 30 yards behind him and behind the tee box. He sadly walks back to his ball and does exactly the same thing. He's now lying 2 and about 20 yards behind the tee and 60 yards left of it. He saunters back again and hits one right off the toe about 150 yards straight right. 3 shots and still further from the hole than when he started. Luckily, he went and picked his ball up and moved on.

Incidentally, I lost the hole after I lipped out from 40 yards out for eagle and my opponent straight bladed one out the deep rough that hit the flag at about 40Mph and dropped straight down and into the hole.
 

Deathofthebambino

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One of my closest friends, a huge monster of a human (6'4, probably 250), plays to about a 5-6 index, and carries it about 325 when he gets into one (he hits one of the highest tee balls you'll ever see), thought he had enough room to get around a tree with a full swing on a 5 iron on a par 5 approach.

Narrator: He didn't. Ball hit the tree, came back and hit him directly in the mouth. Lost 3 teeth, fractured a bunch of shit, he looked like Camel Joe a couple days later. He looked like he took a slapshot from Chara off his face.

He almost killed one of our other close friends yesterday at the club. We were teeing off 8, and the 9th fairway runs parallel to it. Fucking windy as hell in our face, and he gets into a tee ball that probably ends up right side of our fairway, or right rough with a normal wind, instead just turns right in the wind and carries about 75 yards off line into the 9th fairway, right where our other friend is. We're screaming "Fore" at the top of our lungs, as this 20 second ball flight is playing out. The guys on 9 are doing the usual covering their heads, when the guy who hit it screams, "NO, JIMMY, FUCKING DUCK."

If Jimmy didn't duck, he might have been killed. And Jimmy is like a 5'6' leprechaun. Of course, Jimmy lost his match 7 ways, playing a $100 Nassau, so after the round, he said "I fucking wish it hit me, I probably would have saved $500."
 

Doug Beerabelli

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Crazy/funny story, Death!

Finished up our 3 day Fall Member/Member. Fiona provided some tough winds, and the club had the greens rolling as fast as they have all season. Pins were tucked a bit too, mostly today (I’d say 14 of 18).

We didn’t try to qualify for championship flight.
Same partner as last year, when we won our flight. 63 holes - 7 9-hole matches best ball, 90% of handicap. Teams put into flights based on total team handicap, so we were 26 (me 15, partner 11). 27 Friday, 18 Saturday and today.

We had a fun group in our flight, all good peeps, which was great. Has some crazy up and down results, everything from a Sandyjesus par (ball skipped over pond into bunker, and got up and down from there), 3 birds for skins, and hit the wrong ball on the 63rd and final hole. I punched a 4h under a tree for decent shot that went over slight hill, so we couldn’t see final resting place. Find a ball buried in rough where I should be, one foot off fairway, no one is paying the first hole to make me think it’s someone else’s ball, and it’s same type. I hit it, then my partner sees ball 20 yds further up in rough that’s mine. Just stoopid, especially since I’m usually really good about ID ball. Lesson re-learned. Partner tied hole (phew); I would have been lying 3 about 80
yds out on a par 5, needing a par to win hole.

We ended up finishing second in flight, and would have won if we won last hole and tied our last match, instead of losing 1 down. But between 2nd place money, winning 4 skins and having most points in a few of the 9 hole sessions, we won almost as much money as last year when we won. Fun weekend, but I’m golfed out for a bit.
 

Oil Can Dan

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Me and seven guys are doing Pinehurst next week. Anyone here been and have any recommendations on things not to miss? We're playing #7 & #2 on Thurs, the Cradle and #4 on Friday, and #8 & 9 on Saturday.
 

TFP

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Me and seven guys are doing Pinehurst next week. Anyone here been and have any recommendations on things not to miss? We're playing #7 & #2 on Thurs, the Cradle and #4 on Friday, and #8 & 9 on Saturday.
Shoot me a PM. I wish you had asked before booking the courses!
 

bostonbeerbelly

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Off to Scottsdale Thursday. Wish I had thought about the weather a little bit more as 97 doesn’t sound great. But we have an opening round after the flight at talking stick, a round at TPC Friday and then both courses at WeKoPa on Saturday. My game is at the best it’s ever been. Can not wait. If anyone has any good dinner recommendations send them my way. Thanks for everyone who commented on courses when I reached out months ago.
 

TFP

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I am not a fan of 7 and 9, and playing 7 and 2 in the same day is a slog and a half. I would have tried to get 1 and 3 in there instead, 3 since it's a great warmup for 2 (and an extremely fun course) and then 1 because I feel like it's a true Pinehurst experience. 2, 4, and 8 will be great, even if 8 isn't a true "sandhills" course.

This is definitely picking some nits and a little of personal preference. I just generally think it's better to stick to courses 1-4 on your first visit to the resort since you get the full breadth of the experience playing out of the main clubhouse, they're my 4 favorite courses (of the Pinehurst onces), and it's a lot easier logistically. And then if we start talking non-Pinehurst courses then it's a whole other conversation as well.

That said - it will still be an excellent trip and I'm not trying to dampen the excitement for it. It's golf heaven down there.
 

kelpapa

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Just realized I have a Scottsdale trip in a few weeks and I need to get a few tee times. My family is going with me but I have negotiated two rounds, so I'm pretty happy about it. I'm probably going to a few value courses.

Oh shit. May have just negotiated 36 holes on one of those days.
 

kelpapa

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WeKoPa is your answer for the 36 hole day. Papago is a great value course, or TPC Champions.
Agreed at Papago. I played there, McCormick Ranch and Silverado earlier this year. The clubhouse at Papago was awesome as well. Really cool spot to hang out and grab a beer.

I'm headed back in December to catch the Pats in Phoenix for MNF and might be doing WeKoPa on that trip. Looks like I just miss the price jump from $240 for 36 holes to $375 on this trip. From a quick search, that is still a great price, and I may have to pull the trigger on that. Any other recommendations for 36 holes? It doesn't have to be a really nice course, and I'm trying to golf at as many different courses as I can down there. Talking Stick is still relatively cheap.

Edit - I know the courses I played earlier this year is a weird list. I was golfing with my wife, and I didn't want to shell out $300 per person in prime golf season.
 

Zomp

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2 club fitting stories, TLDR I have a new driver and 3 wood

I went for a driver fitting yesterday. I've worked hard over the years to shallow my swing (even though I'm still steep, negative angle of attack with a driver) and as a result my current gamer, Ping G410 LST set at 10.5 degrees with a Tensai AV Raw Orange 6S, wasn't performing as well as I felt it could.

I am an unapologetic Titleist fan boy despite not having their clubs (aside from putter) in my bag for a long time. I went in to the fitting yesterday expecting to end up in the TSR2 because its more forgiving than the TSR3. However my typical driver miss with the Ping was a spinny cut that would only end up going 220-230. When I hit the Ping good I could get it out there 270ish but that was few and far between.

Because the TSR3 is lower spinning than the 2, it ended up being a better fit. Good hits were going 280 but my old spinny miss wasn't as off center and because of the lower spin it was still going 250+. We also cut a half inch off of the shaft which improved strike pattern and efficiency. I don't have it in my hands yet but I ended up purchasing a TSR 3, 9 degree (D3 setting so +.75 degree of loft and 1.5 degree upright), with a Tensai 1k Black 65X shaft at 45 inches. I hit 20 balls towards the end with that set up and averaged 164 ball speed which is great for me. Launching at 10 degrees. First Titleist driver in my bag since I *think* the 983K.


A few weeks back I cracked my Cobra 3-wood. It was the Cobra Speedzone. I wrote to cobra and they replied saying they'd send me the Radpseed head to replace it. I would have been quite happy with that but when I opened the package that was sent to me there was their current model, the LTDX LS head. I took it to the fitter and explained to him that I didn't necessarily need to be fit into that head but if it worked for me, I'd like to use it.

It was between the LTDX LS and the Titleist TSR3 3 wood. The TSR3 actually gave me better ball speed but the LTDX LS was lower spinning which helped my control it a bit more. Honestly it could have been a coinflip but since I already had the head for the Cobra I went with it. The only change we made with it was replaced the 12G weight in the rear of the club with an 8G weight. It has my HZRDUS Yellow shaft in it.

I played 9 holes with it tonight and since I didn't have a driver in my bag I tee'd off with it 7 times. I hit 6 fairways (with the 7th being just in the rough) and shot 35, 1 under. I may be in a euphoric state but the club head shape really reminds me of the old Titleist PT woods. Nice and compact.

Of course the season is ending soon so...
 

3puttking

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2 club fitting stories, TLDR I have a new driver and 3 wood

I went for a driver fitting yesterday. I've worked hard over the years to shallow my swing (even though I'm still steep, negative angle of attack with a driver) and as a result my current gamer, Ping G410 LST set at 10.5 degrees with a Tensai AV Raw Orange 6S, wasn't performing as well as I felt it could.

I am an unapologetic Titleist fan boy despite not having their clubs (aside from putter) in my bag for a long time. I went in to the fitting yesterday expecting to end up in the TSR2 because its more forgiving than the TSR3. However my typical driver miss with the Ping was a spinny cut that would only end up going 220-230. When I hit the Ping good I could get it out there 270ish but that was few and far between.

Because the TSR3 is lower spinning than the 2, it ended up being a better fit. Good hits were going 280 but my old spinny miss wasn't as off center and because of the lower spin it was still going 250+. We also cut a half inch off of the shaft which improved strike pattern and efficiency. I don't have it in my hands yet but I ended up purchasing a TSR 3, 9 degree (D3 setting so +.75 degree of loft and 1.5 degree upright), with a Tensai 1k Black 65X shaft at 45 inches. I hit 20 balls towards the end with that set up and averaged 164 ball speed which is great for me. Launching at 10 degrees. First Titleist driver in my bag since I *think* the 983K.


A few weeks back I cracked my Cobra 3-wood. It was the Cobra Speedzone. I wrote to cobra and they replied saying they'd send me the Radpseed head to replace it. I would have been quite happy with that but when I opened the package that was sent to me there was their current model, the LTDX LS head. I took it to the fitter and explained to him that I didn't necessarily need to be fit into that head but if it worked for me, I'd like to use it.

It was between the LTDX LS and the Titleist TSR3 3 wood. The TSR3 actually gave me better ball speed but the LTDX LS was lower spinning which helped my control it a bit more. Honestly it could have been a coinflip but since I already had the head for the Cobra I went with it. The only change we made with it was replaced the 12G weight in the rear of the club with an 8G weight. It has my HZRDUS Yellow shaft in it.

I played 9 holes with it tonight and since I didn't have a driver in my bag I tee'd off with it 7 times. I hit 6 fairways (with the 7th being just in the rough) and shot 35, 1 under. I may be in a euphoric state but the club head shape really reminds me of the old Titleist PT woods. Nice and compact.

Of course the season is ending soon so...
Were you dead set on getting a TSR? I want to get a Titleist driver too but I want to keep an open mind and am holding off on fitting until the others come out with their 2023 drivers.
 

Kliq

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This year, over rounds of 18, I have shot: 102, 101, 102, 103, 101, 104, 102, 102, 101, 105, 102, 103, 101.

As you can see, I'm no particularly good at golf. Yet I've become bizarrely consistent at this particular level. I'd like to think my game would have more variance given the general inconsistent quality of my play, but it doesn't seem to have that.
 

Eagle3

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This year, over rounds of 18, I have shot: 102, 101, 102, 103, 101, 104, 102, 102, 101, 105, 102, 103, 101.

As you can see, I'm no particularly good at golf. Yet I've become bizarrely consistent at this particular level. I'd like to think my game would have more variance given the general inconsistent quality of my play, but it doesn't seem to have that.
Well, at least your handicap will be accurate.

Whats the weakest part of your game? Unless you hit it out of play off the tee all the time, the way to get consistently under 100 for almost every player stuck in that zone is to work on your short game.
 

Zomp

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Were you dead set on getting a TSR? I want to get a Titleist driver too but I want to keep an open mind and am holding off on fitting until the others come out with their 2023 drivers.
I was not dead set on it but looks was a big factor for me. I believe two things to be true for clubs. The first is that they are all good. A good swing is a good swing and if you hit any company’s driver with a good strike and a good swing path it will perform. Yes there are intricacies that certain models may be better, but overall there are very small differences. So piggy backing on that, if looks is a deciding factor that makes you feel good while standing over the ball and helps you swing confidently, go with it.

I prefer simplistic designs. One of the reasons why I love my srixon ZX7’s.There’s no huge font, no crazy design. Just a good simple iron.

For drivers, I prefer a classic shaped head. The lower spin heads have typically a more compact shape which I prefer. I’m not a fan of the elongated shape in the back.

I’ve never been a fan of Callaway heads. I’m coming from a Ping and wanted something different so the G425 was out (and early pics of the 430 make it look like a spaceship). I don’t mind the head shape of the stealth but I wasn’t a big fan of the color scheme and my fitter said it would be difficult to order a custom one since TM is already moving on to their next model. I tried the Srixon drivers last year and results were just okay.

So it was between the Cobra LTDx LS driver and the TSR3. I wouldn’t have minded the cobra because in the end that’s what my 3 wood is but the titleist dispersion was much tighter. My spinny cuts were going less right and my mishits a little further. I’m not sure if it’s the shaft/head combo or what but the TSR performed better.
 

3puttking

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I was not dead set on it but looks was a big factor for me. I believe two things to be true for clubs. The first is that they are all good. A good swing is a good swing and if you hit any company’s driver with a good strike and a good swing path it will perform. Yes there are intricacies that certain models may be better, but overall there are very small differences. So piggy backing on that, if looks is a deciding factor that makes you feel good while standing over the ball and helps you swing confidently, go with it.

I prefer simplistic designs. One of the reasons why I love my srixon ZX7’s.There’s no huge font, no crazy design. Just a good simple iron.

For drivers, I prefer a classic shaped head. The lower spin heads have typically a more compact shape which I prefer. I’m not a fan of the elongated shape in the back.

I’ve never been a fan of Callaway heads. I’m coming from a Ping and wanted something different so the G425 was out (and early pics of the 430 make it look like a spaceship). I don’t mind the head shape of the stealth but I wasn’t a big fan of the color scheme and my fitter said it would be difficult to order a custom one since TM is already moving on to their next model. I tried the Srixon drivers last year and results were just okay.

So it was between the Cobra LTDx LS driver and the TSR3. I wouldn’t have minded the cobra because in the end that’s what my 3 wood is but the titleist dispersion was much tighter. My spinny cuts were going less right and my mishits a little further. I’m not sure if it’s the shaft/head combo or what but the TSR performed better.
How's Tensei Black 1K? That shaft does intrigue me....
 

Over Guapo Grande

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Not me directly, but my nephew finished up his regular season high school career today in style. He tied the course record shooting a 31 (missing a 4 footer bird on 9). I have been the one he turns to for physical and mental tweaks, so I am bursting with pride and joy (though it meant beating my alma mater by 1 stroke).
 

Over Guapo Grande

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Thanks, I was texting him, and he said it should have been a 29. He missed a 4 foot birdie putt on 9, and apparently, one other "coulda made".

I told him that he works way too hard, and that I can get to 31 in many fewer holes.
 

jercra

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Thanks, I was texting him, and he said it should have been a 29. He missed a 4 foot birdie putt on 9, and apparently, one other "coulda made".

I told him that he works way too hard, and that I can get to 31 in many fewer holes.
There's got to be a term for it, but it's such an odd phenomenon in golf that people always seem to make note of the missed 4 footer that gets made at an 80% rate on 4-5 footers on tour, but don't think about how many 15-20 footes that made that get made at an 18% range on tour. We're all guilty of it, so I'm not trying to criticize here, but he should definitely focus more on the great work he did outside of those 2 opportunities than dwell on what could have been.
 

TFP

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There's got to be a term for it, but it's such an odd phenomenon in golf that people always seem to make note of the missed 4 footer that gets made at an 80% rate on 4-5 footers on tour, but don't think about how many 15-20 footes that made that get made at an 18% range on tour.
I remind myself of this a lot. A missed 4 footer can be counteracted by a chip in or lucky long putt. It's the days where I have a bunch of missed short putts and no longer made putts or great shots to counteract when I get into the "should have been" part of my score.
 

FL4WL3SS

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Andy Brickley's potty mouth
There's got to be a term for it, but it's such an odd phenomenon in golf that people always seem to make note of the missed 4 footer that gets made at an 80% rate on 4-5 footers on tour, but don't think about how many 15-20 footes that made that get made at an 18% range on tour. We're all guilty of it, so I'm not trying to criticize here, but he should definitely focus more on the great work he did outside of those 2 opportunities than dwell on what could have been.
But! If that missed 4 footer comes after all the other good golf, it's definitely a missed opportunity. I tend to agree if you're looking back on a missed 4 footer on hole 3 and thinking what could have been, that's generally silly.
 

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But! If that missed 4 footer comes after all the other good golf, it's definitely a missed opportunity. I tend to agree if you're looking back on a missed 4 footer on hole 3 and thinking what could have been, that's generally silly.
It's just the balance. You don't hear a lot of players look back on making a putt that the best of the best miss most of the time and think that you really should have shot 1 stroke worse. The focus on the one miss you "should have made" without consideration for the bunch you made but shouldn't have is the thing. It's like a player with a high BABIP going 3-4 with 3 broken bat bloops but only focusing on the line drive caught by the third baseman.