TE Depth Watch: Gronk, Hooman and Who?

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http://www.patriots.com/news/blog/article-1/Could-Tony-Gonzalez-be-Patriots-TE-option/2b5257e2-38b2-4397-b692-ce1600e4b6e7
 
Andy Hart chimes in re: Tony. Gonzalez:

“The temptation would be there, but I don't know what the gain would be,'' Gonzalez told Newsday. "I've always wanted a ring. That's been my main goal as a player over the last 15 years of my career. You're really trying to get that ultimate goal.
 
"But I'd be a mercenary to come in and get a Super Bowl ring, play with a team for, what, six, seven weeks? And even if I got the ring, it wouldn't be the same as going through the fight with the team from the beginning to the end. I don't think that will happen. The temptation will be there, but I'm 100- percent happy with my decision.
 
Gonzalez also made it clear that some teams have already called about him coming out of retirement, although he wouldn’t say which ones.
 
Wait until the playoffs get closer and closer. Gronk & Gonzalez, Gonzalez & Gronk. 
 
P.S. It'll be an awesome offense with Gronk & Gonzalez with Andre Johnson lining up wide and Stanton batting 4th.
 

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Wonder what else Santa Claus will get me for Christmas this year besides Tony Gonzalez.  Hopefully a unicorn.
 

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Yes, but this is more realistic than other Christmas ponies, such as WRs from Arizona and Texas, that have had their own threads.

His point about not wanting to vulture a ring is a good one, but that wouldn't be a problem if he were to come in now.

I don't see that he owes Atlanta anything after all these years.

From the Pats' standpoint, why isn't this a no-brainer?

The real question is whether he really wants to play.

It's probably now or never, at least for this year. Were he to suit up mid-season, even if that's because somebody high profile goes down, he will come off as a mercenary, and probably rightly so.

This makes so much sense it probably won't get done.
 

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Marginally. 
 
He could come in now and the Pats have a need, but he doesn't seem to want to play.  The reason it wouldn't be a no-brainer is because I don't think he's coming here for the vet minimum or something, he rightfully will want pay commensurate an all time great.
 
Coming in midseason sounds great in theory but, besides the fact that he's explicitly saying he isn't going to do that, expecting even an all time great like Tony Gonzalez to show up midseason at age 38 and be a major contributor seems really optimistic.  Id expect a Junior Seau in 2008 type contribution, might be useful but not a real game changer.
 
So yeah, its more likely than shipping Ryan Mallett off for Larry Fitzgerald, but its not going to effect the Pats season.
 

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dcmissle said:
He seems conflicted but would need to be all in.
TG by all accounts is a tough SoB competitor who hates to lose (more so than most players). The allure of The Ring is strong with these high-level players whose only trophy missing in their case is that ring & the photo.

I wouldn't count him out 'going all in' past mid-season. And if he did, I wouldn't be surprised if it only takes him 2-3 weeks to get in sync for the PO -- which is really the only few games that matter for this type of pickup.
 

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He could come in as late as midseason and be playing 10-15 plays a game come playoff time with a focus on third down and in the red zone.  That certainly could be a helpful role player if he both does a 180 on his thought process and decides to play for the Pats as opposed to one of the other 31 NFL franchises.
 

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We could at least possibly have a rehash of this... one of my favorite BB stories, from the incomparable Joe Pos - 

 
*I have told this story before ... but I cannot write about the Pro Bowl without telling my favorite Bill Belichick story. People have often asked: What is it that makes Belichick so good at this coaching thing? Sure, he's brilliant about breaking down film and devising a gameplan that attacks another team's weaknesses. Sure, he's all about winning -- and as such has not allowed loyalty (Sorry son, we're letting you go), tradition (Fourth and two -- go for it) or good taste (Are those cameras pointing right at the sidelines?) to muddle the mission.
But there's something else -- something harder to describe. Tony Gonzalez was in the Pro Bowl every year from 1999 to 2008. He is, in my view, the best pass-catching tight end in NFL history. Tony -- and I say this with a great deal of affection -- is also very Hollywood. Oh, he plays hard and he blocks and he will get dirty if necessary. But he also invented this new position: The glamour tight end. He co-wrote a diet book. He worked with Oprah. He's friends with the Naked Chef. And so on.
So ... he was at the Pro Bowl and Belichick was coaching (unhappily, no doubt -- the Pro Bowl coach is the one who LOST the Championship Game) and he put Gonzalez on special teams. Well, that's part of the deal with the Pro Bowl -- stars have to play on special teams. So Gonzalez was going through the motions on special teams, like Pro Bowlers do. He wasn't about to get hurt blocking someone at a Pro Bowl -- everyone understood the rules. Well, Gonzalez thought everyone understood the rules. He was walking off the field and Belichick says: "Why don't you (bleeping) block somebody, Gonzalez?"
Gonzalez looked back at the man. Was he serious? He looked serious. Wait, WAS HE SERIOUS? Tony Gonzalez, playing in his eighth consecutive pro Bowl, and this guy was telling him to block somebody on special teams. He had to be joking. No, seriously, he HAD TO BE JOKING.
But he was not joking. Gonzalez was furious. He fumed on the sideline. How dare this man -- HOW DARE THIS MAN -- yell at him, curse at him, who in the hell did he think he was? And on the next kickoff, Gonzalez was still raging -- HOW DARE THIS MAN -- and the ball went over his head, and he found an opponent, and he crushed the guy, absolutely pancaked his guy. And then Gonzalez made sure, absolutely sure, to walk by Bill Belichick, that SOB, and Belichick did not say a word, not a single word, and Gonzalez thought: "Yeah, that's right." And just as he was almost out of range, he heard Belichick say: "Nice block."
And then he knew -- he had been utterly manipulated by the master. And how did he feel about it? Well: "I felt really good," Gonzalez said sheepishly.
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