The 2018 NBA Draft

NoXInNixon

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Brown?

If I am GM in Orlando, I don't think Boston has anything short of Brown that makes me consider it.

They may trade him, but I can't imagine it would be for 2019 picks, even if the Celts throw in Rozier, just not enough meat on that bone
If Brown gets it done, I reluctantly do it, but only because it lets them keep all their future draft picks. But I try like heck to get them to bite on Rozier, 27, and the Sac and Memphis picks.
 

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Would Orlando say No to Rozier, Sacto pick, Memphis pick? That could be two top three picks, but my theory is if the Celtics already have Tatum and Brown as future max players, if Ainge is positive that Bamba is the real deal, make tat move now. Of course, those picks could end up 9 and 11, but Ainge has enough gravitas to survive if the trade was made and the Magic got a 2 and a 1 out of it.
They’re not trading Bamba for a pick that might end up in the 20s,
a pick that might not covey for 3 years, and the right to pay Rozier to help them win 36 games instead of 32. The variance in the Sac and Memphis picks makes them basically untradeable before the draft in which they convey.
 

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It’s basically never going to make sense for a GM under fire (which is typically most GMs in the high lotto) to defer the high pick to a future year(s) without knowing where that future pick will end up.
 

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It’s basically never going to make sense for a GM under fire (which is typically most GMs in the high lotto) to defer the high pick to a future year(s) without knowing where that future pick will end up.
Exactly. Even if there were assurances of it conveying next year, which would surely be high in either case of Sacramento or Memphis, most GM's of rebuilding teams are never going to delay a pick for potentially the next GM to utilize. Those gigs are pretty valuable and without Ainge-like job security, most GM's are looking purely at improving their team for next season.
 

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A team like the Magic wants variance, not certainty. The people focused on risk mitigation are looking at it the wrong way in my opinion. Then again the initial reaction to the KG, Pierce trade was focused on the downside risks instead of upside risks too,so not surprising that it’s coming up again. If Ainge had a similar mindset he wouldn’t have made most of his moves as a GM.
 

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Because the 2019 draft is bad?
Because they probably could have moved up from 10 to 6 or 7 and gotten Bamba or Carter who are perfect long term fits. I admit it’s premature without seeing what the Sac pick ends up at but early odds are not as good a player as they could have had tonight.
 

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What time is our pick estimated to be? Question is should I try to get a ticket for 2nd set of U2 or stay in the bar and watch the entire first round?
 

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They’re not trading Bamba for a pick that might end up in the 20s,
a pick that might not covey for 3 years, and the right to pay Rozier to help them win 36 games instead of 32. The variance in the Sac and Memphis picks makes them basically untradeable before the draft in which they convey.
The Sac pick might end up in the 20s??
 

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A draft this good, and an injury that existential...

Some team soon won't be able to resist trying to catch a falling dagger.
I mean, many people (himself) say he's basically a better KD / Giannis / McGrady hybrid of all their best traits.
 

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Haven't seen it mentioned, but I find it amazing Cleveland took Sexton given LeBron's legal threats against Nick Saban's barber show and their striking parallels.
 

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Pretty sure this board is much, much more obsessed with the Celtics drafting a big man than Danny Ainge is.
 

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Because they probably could have moved up from 10 to 6 or 7 and gotten Bamba or Carter who are perfect long term fits. I admit it’s premature without seeing what the Sac pick ends up at but early odds are not as good a player as they could have had tonight.
Maybe, but the cost of moving up from 10 to 6/7 is not small in all likelihood. It would cost at least the Grizzlies pick, and probably more.

I'm a big Carter fan, so maybe that would be fine, but not even clear to me the Grizzlies pick gets it done to be honest. Presumably Orlando and Chicago likewise coveted those two after all.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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Because they probably could have moved up from 10 to 6 or 7 and gotten Bamba or Carter who are perfect long term fits. I admit it’s premature without seeing what the Sac pick ends up at but early odds are not as good a player as they could have had tonight.
We all know how cagey he is but I’d love to know Danny’s thoughts on this a year later. I don’t think he really deals in regret, but yeah, I’m curious. Then again, maybe we’re at 10 and teams are asking way too much to move up. I probably wouldn’t do Memphis pick, for example, to slide up 4 picks, and I’m sure that would’ve been the ask over something like Rozier/27.
 

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Pretty sure this board is much, much more obsessed with the Celtics drafting a big man than Danny Ainge is.
Yes. Certainly much more obsessed with getting a Mo Bamba type that Ainge has gone after in the draft basically once.
 

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Pretty sure this board is much, much more obsessed with the Celtics drafting a big man than Danny Ainge is.
I doubt it. This board is barely mildly intrigued by the prospect of the Celtics drafting a big man, and the next stop is abject indifference.

Ainge is nothing if not counter-cyclical. I think he's moderately intrigued by the prospect of the Celtics drafting a big man, if only because we are not.
 

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Well, we would have been two picks away from getting Bamba and the team which picked him doesn’t need a center. But how the fuck are you supposed to know this shit? :)
I cannot fathom that next year's Sacramento pick is worth less than this year's #10.