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Simmons talking with Larry Wilmore about old TV ratings and how Good Times got like 20 million people. And then Simmons is like, "Nothing gets people like that anymore." Larry says, "Well, the super bowl." Bill responds, "What does the SB do, 25 million people?"

That is one of the more out of touch comments in Simmons' history. The SB regularly gets 100 million people. I am genuinely shocked Simmons was so uninformed about the SB viewership. This is apropos of nothing, of course.
 

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Simmons talking with Larry Wilmore about old TV ratings and how Good Times got like 20 million people. And then Simmons is like, "Nothing gets people like that anymore." Larry says, "Well, the super bowl." Bill responds, "What does the SB do, 25 million people?"

That is one of the more out of touch comments in Simmons' history. The SB regularly gets 100 million people. I am genuinely shocked Simmons was so uninformed about the SB viewership. This is apropos of nothing, of course.
I think for a guy who is reasonably good at sports stats and definitely had a need to count to hundred of millions to count the giant piles of money he's made, he's a reasonably smart guys who's not naturally a math guy -- like the idea that fewer than ten percent of americans watch the superbowl if facially preposterous but he just doesn't quickly connect those dots.
 

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I think for a guy who is reasonably good at sports stats and definitely had a need to count to hundred of millions to count the giant piles of money he's made, he's a reasonably smart guys who's not naturally a math guy -- like the idea that fewer than ten percent of americans watch the superbowl if facially preposterous but he just doesn't quickly connect those dots.
Maybe he should ask someone that runs a company focused on the junction of sports and pop culture.
 

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I think for a guy who is reasonably good at sports stats and definitely had a need to count to hundred of millions to count the giant piles of money he's made, he's a reasonably smart guys who's not naturally a math guy -- like the idea that fewer than ten percent of americans watch the superbowl if facially preposterous but he just doesn't quickly connect those dots.
I think that’s mostly true but I think, in this particular instance, he was also going for a lower number so it didn’t completely destroy the point he was making about Good Times and ratings
 

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So did Peter Gammons. Though maybe it was later on in his career.

Pearl Jamming with Peter Gammons and Theo Epstein. The Hot stove and Rock n Roll or whatever they called it.
Hunter S. Thompson is the progenitor of the Bill Simmons style of sports writing. The stream-of-consciousness, talking about the scene as much as the on-field action, mixing and tying other elements of society (like politics and music) in to draw a larger picture of what was GOING ON.

Now, Thompson's style was more absurd, deliberately outsized; Gonzo. But that "man from the outside on the inside, shaking things up" persona in modern journalism really started with him. And he talked about music, and sports, an awful lot.

Simmons' big talent/inspiration was making it more accessible, thematically, and understanding the internet was the perfect tool to make it more accessible, literally.
 

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I thought both parents need to agree on where a kid goes to school even if custody is mostly with one. I'm probably wrong - just seemed funny to me.
One could be the superintendent of the public school system in a town and still think that private school is a better option for some kids, all kids, your kids.
 

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Bill also lived with his mother in Connecticut, not with his Dad in Wellesley(?). His dad was was the superintendent in Easton; there really was never any chance for Bill to go to those schools anyway (I can't believe I'm debating this).
 

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I think the podcast from the Masters confirms that I've just developed a weird parasocial relationship with Simmons and am too easily irritated by him. The conversation with House, Simmons and the other guy about going to the Masters was entertaining, but Simmons had a way of constantly reiterating how critical it was that "he was there" in order to make his points that I found annoying. I think if almost anyone else had made the same observations using similar language, I probably wouldn't have been irritated. But instead I found myself wanting to strangle Simmons every time he said "Oh, and another thing I noticed that I don't think you can appreciate while watching on TV..."
 

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I think the podcast from the Masters confirms that I've just developed a weird parasocial relationship with Simmons and am too easily irritated by him. The conversation with House, Simmons and the other guy about going to the Masters was entertaining, but Simmons had a way of constantly reiterating how critical it was that "he was there" in order to make his points that I found annoying. I think if almost anyone else had made the same observations using similar language, I probably wouldn't have been irritated. But instead I found myself wanting to strangle Simmons every time he said "Oh, and another thing I noticed that I don't think you can appreciate while watching on TV..."
Yup, these are my priveleges...
 

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I think the podcast from the Masters confirms that I've just developed a weird parasocial relationship with Simmons and am too easily irritated by him. The conversation with House, Simmons and the other guy about going to the Masters was entertaining, but Simmons had a way of constantly reiterating how critical it was that "he was there" in order to make his points that I found annoying. I think if almost anyone else had made the same observations using similar language, I probably wouldn't have been irritated. But instead I found myself wanting to strangle Simmons every time he said "Oh, and another thing I noticed that I don't think you can appreciate while watching on TV..."
Did you listen to the preview episode of Fairway Rolling? It was a bit of a different vibe with House driving the conversation. He even made fun of Simmons for asking a green jacket “what’s your function here?” Apparently Sports Guy had no idea only members and champions wore green jackets at ANGC, and thought the member talking to them was a maître d’ or some sort of hospitality employee. The best aspect of it was Bill desperately trying to stop House from telling the story on the podcast out of embarrassment.

I’m usually in this thread defending Simmons and I enjoy most of what he puts out, but the Augusta episodes have shown him to be completely out of touch. It’s also embarrassing that Nathan Hubbard has such a big platform on his podcast network while contributing zero. His only qualification seems to be running the most consumer-unfriendly company in America (no exaggeration). Open mic night indeed.
 
In Simmons' first podcast with Russillo last night, he a) said Dustin Johnson looks like Jaylen Brown, b) compared Rory McIlroy to Matt Ryan (I feel personally attacked), and c) said the 12th hole at Augusta National needs better PR. I think it's fair to say he should never talk about golf again, except maybe insofar as listening to him talk about golf gives me some insight into how average sports fans who tune into golf only when Tiger is playing and/or the Masters is on think.
 

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In Simmons' first podcast with Russillo last night, he a) said Dustin Johnson looks like Jaylen Brown, b) compared Rory McIlroy to Matt Ryan (I feel personally attacked), and c) said the 12th hole at Augusta National needs better PR. I think it's fair to say he should never talk about golf again, except maybe insofar as listening to him talk about golf gives me some insight into how average sports fans who tune into golf only when Tiger is playing and/or the Masters is on think.
Isn't that his schtick? The everyman sports fan? As someone who is a Christmas and Easter golf fan (i.e. majors with Tiger playing) this is the level of discourse on the subject that I want from Simmons. I can go other places if I really want the ins and outs of Scheffler's swing or Bryson's caddie drama or Thomas' swap from Ping to another golf manufacturer or whatever (and yes I had to go look up how to spell Scottie Scheffler's last name.) I just think we're asking for something here that we don't want Simmons to give.
 

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I think the podcast from the Masters confirms that I've just developed a weird parasocial relationship with Simmons and am too easily irritated by him. The conversation with House, Simmons and the other guy about going to the Masters was entertaining, but Simmons had a way of constantly reiterating how critical it was that "he was there" in order to make his points that I found annoying. I think if almost anyone else had made the same observations using similar language, I probably wouldn't have been irritated. But instead I found myself wanting to strangle Simmons every time he said "Oh, and another thing I noticed that I don't think you can appreciate while watching on TV..."
100% on this.

My particular fixation lately has been around his growing use of the construction "the something something that we've had." As in, "he's one of the greatest actors we've had", "he's one of the great off-the-ball defenders that we've had", "that was one of the craziest Oscars that we've had", etc. Like he's the little self-appointed custodian of everything.

But to your point, I cannot fathom another person listening to hundreds and hundreds of hours of me talking about all kinds of shit only to hold me to such fussy pet peeves about various phrasings and so forth. Doesn't seem fair.
 

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I think the podcast from the Masters confirms that I've just developed a weird parasocial relationship with Simmons and am too easily irritated by him. The conversation with House, Simmons and the other guy about going to the Masters was entertaining, but Simmons had a way of constantly reiterating how critical it was that "he was there" in order to make his points that I found annoying. I think if almost anyone else had made the same observations using similar language, I probably wouldn't have been irritated. But instead I found myself wanting to strangle Simmons every time he said "Oh, and another thing I noticed that I don't think you can appreciate while watching on TV..."
I lurk on this thread because what happens with Simmons is mildly interesting in the sports media landscape. But this exactly matches what happened to me as a consumer of his content. It just happened about 10 or so years ago for me. I started becoming overly aware of, and annoyed by, his mannerisms and thought processes. After trying to rationalize it (here in this thread) I eventually just chalked it up to something changing with me or my ability to find his perspective entertaining anymore. He just got irritating and honestly I’ve never really been able to explain why (or more accurately, what I liked in the first place). Kinda reminds me of Dave Matthews in that way. In any event: wanted to lend a +1 to this comment.
 
I just think we're asking for something here that we don't want Simmons to give.
To echo the last several posters, it's the way Simmons frames his golf-related takes that grates so much for me - e.g., like he's the first person ever to have realized that #12 at Augusta National can cause carnage on Sunday. If he were a little more self-aware and humble about his lack of golf knowledge, that would go a long way.
 

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100% on this.

My particular fixation lately has been around his growing use of the construction "the something something that we've had." As in, "he's one of the greatest actors we've had", "he's one of the great off-the-ball defenders that we've had", "that was one of the craziest Oscars that we've had", etc. Like he's the little self-appointed custodian of everything.

But to your point, I cannot fathom another person listening to hundreds and hundreds of hours of me talking about all kinds of shit only to hold me to such fussy pet peeves about various phrasings and so forth. Doesn't seem fair.
Is that the construction piece? Or is it the something something thing?

Simmons is also funny with how he has to quantify everything he says into a historical group. For example, he's always saying this and that are top 3 at something in the last 20 years. He does it with actors and athletes. None of it means anything, it's just an arbitrary scale without any thought. "Seriously, Karl Anthony Townes is probably a top 3 in the past 20 years at having a 3 name name."

I think the problem with Simmons is that he's unable to laugh at himself. The best podcasters, like Rusillo, the guys on PMT, Chris Ryan, Fennessy, etc can mock things but also find some humor about themselves.

Simmons is always defensive and never self aware enough to realize that laughing at yourself occasionally is a good thing. The only guy who can consistently give Simmons shit and he laughs at it is House, because they go back 30+ years. But even House will pull the punches, usually.
 

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To echo the last several posters, it's the way Simmons frames his golf-related takes that grates so much for me - e.g., like he's the first person ever to have realized that #12 at Augusta National can cause carnage on Sunday. If he were a little more self-aware and humble about his lack of golf knowledge, that would go a long way.
That's fair and I mean this without any malice but to echo the earlier posters as well this seems like a you problem and not a Bill Simmons problem. I don't feel like he's changed all that much over the years.
 

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That's fair and I mean this without any malice but to echo the earlier posters as well this seems like a you problem and not a Bill Simmons problem. I don't feel like he's changed all that much over the years.
I think what changed, for me at least, is that when he was writing his thoughts were somewhat filtered or he actually gave them more time to marinate and ways to frame them.

Since he started doing only podcasts and media though, you’re exactly right. He really hasn’t changed at all.

It really seems like it’s all about what the listener is willing to tolerate or expect from him. I mean, even the people defending Simmons on this thread seem to be giving him pretty backhanded compliments
 
I mean, even the people defending Simmons on this thread seem to be giving him pretty backhanded compliments
I still enjoy Simmons' podcasts a lot. The issue for me is more about the lanes he chooses to stay in. He's great on the NBA, fun on the NFL and Rewatchable movies, good in many situations in creating chemistry as an interviewer, etc. The Masters was a situation where I think he wanted to go enjoy being at The Masters - which is fair enough - but then fell into the sports-talk-show-host trap of wanting to position himself as an expert and have takes about a sport lying way outside of his areas of expertise. He used to lampoon guys who did that; now he's one of those guys himself, at least on some occasions.

Caveat emptor, of course - I made a conscious choice not to skip ahead to the NBA section of Part 1 of his podcast today, just because I was curious to hear how he and Russillo talked about the Masters. I had skipped his other Masters and golf-related content (same for House, who is very badly cast as a golf expert at The Ringer), and now I'm reminded to definitely do so in the future.
 

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I think the issue for many is that, in the beginning of his career, he relied on a lot of thoughts/feelings/opinions that he had hashed out for years with friends and other sports fans, and so were both A) fairly well supported; and B) adjacent to what many Boston fans felt already, anyway. Circa 2000-2004 (pretty much the Golden Age of Bill Simmons), the cornerstone of his writing was the frustrations and excitement of being a Red Sox and Patriots fan that everyone could basically agree upon (the classic "nodding along while reading" Simmons stuff). He was mining 25+ years of collective experience that had been floating around the Boston sports scene and already well-chewed over: Clemens being an asshole; the Patriots being a joke for decades; the shittiness of Sullivan Stadium; the '86 series, etc.. He *knew* about that stuff, and could speak authoritatively, because he'd lived it and spent his youth around others who had lived it. And I think because he could talk about specific plays and on-field occurrences in addition to his feelings as a *fan*, a lot of us assumed he was also really good at dissecting the games themselves, and that he was interested in that type of analysis, at least somewhat.

But when he started taking the same level of confidence to topics he wasn't really well-versed in, and once he became more removed from the pre-2004 Boston days, it became a little obvious that he wasn't really an expert on the sports he was discussing (basketball aside), was never really interested in becoming one, and once he stopped being a mouthpiece for my experience as a pre-2004 Boston fan, I didn't really have anything in common with him at all, in terms of how I relate to sports. He's never really been interested in on-field stuff (again, basketball probably an exception), except as a vehicle to cherry pick and justify how the sport he was watching makes him *feel*.

I still like The Rewatchables, though, because I think what it claims to be, and its reputation, matches closely with what it actually is.
 

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I think the issue for many is that, in the beginning of his career, he relied on a lot of thoughts/feelings/opinions that he had hashed out for years with friends and other sports fans, and so were both A) fairly well supported; and B) adjacent to what many Boston fans felt already, anyway. Circa 2000-2004 (pretty much the Golden Age of Bill Simmons), the cornerstone of his writing was the frustrations and excitement of being a Red Sox and Patriots fan that everyone could basically agree upon (the classic "nodding along while reading" Simmons stuff). He was mining 25+ years of collective experience that had been floating around the Boston sports scene and already well-chewed over: Clemens being an asshole; the Patriots being a joke for decades; the shittiness of Sullivan Stadium; the '86 series, etc.. He *knew* about that stuff, and could speak authoritatively, because he'd lived it and spent his youth around others who had lived it. And I think because he could talk about specific plays and on-field occurrences in addition to his feelings as a *fan*, a lot of us assumed he was also really good at dissecting the games themselves, and that he was interested in that type of analysis, at least somewhat.
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That guy is gone. His humor and writing--like during the golden era--where best when they were observed but now he doesn't spend a ton of time with the things that I suspect are actually the most important in his life. I said something like this perhaps a decade ago on this thread but the interesting thing for him to do creatively/as a writer or podcaster would be to move away from sports and instead peel back the curtains on this insane life he's landed himself in and be a kind of fratboyish Michael Lewis or Hunter Thompson. I get why he doesn't do that--it's easier and safer to stick with sports takes and do a variety of mock drafts and top ten lists (and talk about old movies) instead of writing about what it's actually like to sell a company you made for a zillion bucks or navigate LA private schools or to be in a fantasy football league wit John freaking Hamm or whatever--but I bet we're missing some interesting material as a result.
 

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I think it would be less obnoxious to people if he just simply said what Russillo said - "Big-time golf fans already know this...." - before making an obvious statement about the Masters, but he doesn't possess the humility or self-awareness in the moment to do that. This makes him, IMO, a comic figure like Michael Scott (which is why I enjoy him most with someone like Russillo or Lathan or Fennessey who will make fun of him). It's not some great crime that he doesn't realize the 12th hole is like a top 7 all-time "your-tournament-could-fall-apart" hole, it just makes his opinion laughably ridiculous - anyone half paying attention knows it's one of the most brilliantly designed, punishing holes precisely because it's so unassuming. Outside of the 17th at Sawgrass, there probably isn't a scarier short iron shot in golf.
 

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In Simmons' first podcast with Russillo last night, he a) said Dustin Johnson looks like Jaylen Brown, b) compared Rory McIlroy to Matt Ryan (I feel personally attacked), and c) said the 12th hole at Augusta National needs better PR. I think it's fair to say he should never talk about golf again, except maybe insofar as listening to him talk about golf gives me some insight into how average sports fans who tune into golf only when Tiger is playing and/or the Masters is on think.
TBF, he was awkwardly trying to say DJ's size stood out when he was right next to him hitting a shot. After Russillo's incredulous-sounding reaction he then added that he's like a basketball forward. Again, doing the "fan" shtick like oh it wasn't clear how big the guy was until *I* was up close like being courtside at an NBA game. Or Bill, you can just watch on TV and easily look up measurables of guys.
 
TBF, he was awkwardly trying to say DJ's size stood out when he was right next to him hitting a shot. After Russillo's incredulous-sounding reaction he then added that he's like a basketball forward. Again, doing the "fan" shtick like oh it wasn't clear how big the guy was until *I* was up close like being courtside at an NBA game. Or Bill, you can just watch on TV and easily look up measurables of guys.
I know....it's just that out of all of the small forwards in basketball to compare to Dustin Johnson, he picked Jaylen Brown, which is pretty hilarious.
 

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To echo the last several posters, it's the way Simmons frames his golf-related takes that grates so much for me - e.g., like he's the first person ever to have realized that #12 at Augusta National can cause carnage on Sunday. If he were a little more self-aware and humble about his lack of golf knowledge, that would go a long way.
I don't know shit about golf. I really enjoy playing golf video games, but I neither play nor watch the sport.

I read your post about hole 12 at Augusta, and I thought "I think I know that hole. It's the par 3 with the creek and the little turf bridge? And it's one of that course's more infamous spots?"

I then googled "Augusta hole 12" and saw exactly what I had pictured in my head. It's literally the ONLY hole from that course that I can picture. If someone like ME knows that hole is make-or-break, there's no excuse for Simmons acting like he's Sam fucking Snead.
 

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I don't know shit about golf. I really enjoy playing golf video games, but I neither play nor watch the sport.

I read your post about hole 12 at Augusta, and I thought "I think I know that hole. It's the par 3 with the creek and the little turf bridge? And it's one of that course's more infamous spots?"

I then googled "Augusta hole 12" and saw exactly what I had pictured in my head. It's literally the ONLY hole from that course that I can picture. If someone like ME knows that hole is make-or-break, there's no excuse for Simmons acting like he's Sam fucking Snead.
So funny I had the exact same thought process. I was like wait that's the short one where they pop it into the water? Literally the only hole on a golf course anywhere I could tell you is tough with the exception of the put put course in Happy Gilmour? Well tie my down and call me Bobby Jones because I'm a golf expert now!
 

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Simmons brain should be displayed in a musuem.

Last week he said the following:

1. Tatum is a top 5 MVP candidate
2. Durant deserves to be first team All NBA over Tatum
3. Lebron shouldn't be All NBA because he missed games and was competing for the play in.
 

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100% on this.

My particular fixation lately has been around his growing use of the construction "the something something that we've had." As in, "he's one of the greatest actors we've had", "he's one of the great off-the-ball defenders that we've had", "that was one of the craziest Oscars that we've had", etc. Like he's the little self-appointed custodian of everything.

But to your point, I cannot fathom another person listening to hundreds and hundreds of hours of me talking about all kinds of shit only to hold me to such fussy pet peeves about various phrasings and so forth. Doesn't seem fair.
I like Simmons, warts and all, but the "...we've had" thing is especially odd because I remember him making fun of Hubie Brown for that exact phrasing like a decade ago, and now it's a hallmark of his own language. It doesn't bother me, but it's odd, like he forgot that he mocked someone else for doing it and now it's his thing.
 

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Houston media guy is mad about Bill's comments on Jalen Green. Bill is saying he was just joking. The quote he is mad about is "Fuck Jalen Green."
View: https://twitter.com/Chron_MattYoung/status/1514267267575517187

I don't want to clutch my pearls here, but what Bill Simmons said about Jalen Green seems to cross the line, especially when you're given a postseason awards vote by the NBA. https://chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Bill-Simmons-Jalen-Green-podcast-The-Ringer-rookie-17078072.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral… via @chron

View: https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1514298907517280256

This is ridiculous. I think we were laughing during 80% of this. My point was: I’m always leaning toward a rookie like Herb Jones who was meaningfully contributing to a decent team over someone putting up stats on a bad team. Jalen is gonna be excellent.
 

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"I don't want to clutch my pearls here, but I'm gonna go ahead and do one thing and one thing only: Clutch."

So stupid. "Seems to cross the line" What line is that, your pearl clutching line?
 

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I can't roll my eyes hard enough at that "crossing the line". His follow-up is somehow worse: "Look, joking or not, you don’t say “Fuck ____” because you don’t like their game. This isn’t some villain in a Karate Kid movie you’re talking about. Say you don’t think he’s as good as whoever. But “Fuck _____” is too far. Especially for someone with a vote. "

Give me a break.

 

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I listened to the podcast and heard what he said. It was obviously exaggerated but at the same time I think it was a pretty strong thing to say to get a point across (he was saying he values winning over scoring on a bad team)

He also backed down after both KOC and Wos gave lengthy responses about why they liked Jalen green…(thAts when bill pivoted to “I like Jalen Green!” Despite emphatically saying “fuck him!” About 2 minutes earlier)
 

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Not to mention the photo choice that seems to have Simmons hatefully glaring at Green. Give me a break.

Also, the idea that, because someone "has a vote", they are required to be especially diplomatic and bland— this is exactly the boring paradigm that begat the "irreverent Simmons voice" in the first place, 20+ years ago.
 

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I like Simmons, warts and all, but the "...we've had" thing is especially odd because I remember him making fun of Hubie Brown for that exact phrasing like a decade ago, and now it's a hallmark of his own language. It doesn't bother me, but it's odd, like he forgot that he mocked someone else for doing it and now it's his thing.
Great point. I only remember him making fun of Hubie Brown for the second-person voice thing. But., you're right, Hubie definitely does the ".... [insert superlative] we've had" thing as well. Maybe it's a symptom of middle age.
 

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Simmons deserves to be criticized for his dumb take that winning matters in voting for the ROY and all rookie teams. When did that become a thing? The best rookies are almost always on terrible teams. 19 year old kids don’t create winning teams. Vote for the best players.
 

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Simmons deserves to be criticized for his dumb take that winning matters in voting for the ROY and all rookie teams. When did that become a thing? The best rookies are almost always on terrible teams. 19 year old kids don’t create winning teams. Vote for the best players.
Exactly, that's how the draft lottery literally works. The best players end up on the worst teams. Of course they are going to put up big stats (hopefully) in a lot of lopsided games for bad teams. If you want to criticize Green you can say he was terrible for most of the season and then it finally locked in for him towards the end.

And this was Bill's 'Go get your Shinebox' quote:
But congrats on getting your traffic Houston Chronicle… keep churning out those subs!
 

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Simmons deserves to be criticized for his dumb take that winning matters in voting for the ROY and all rookie teams. When did that become a thing? The best rookies are almost always on terrible teams. 19 year old kids don’t create winning teams. Vote for the best players.
it was an incredibly fucking stupid take because Bill wants to continue his “I only vote for winners!!!” thing even if it makes no sense….

The best part of it was Wos, rightly, pointing out that everyone was riding Senguns jock despite Green being better and Bill piping up (again right after his fuck Jalen Green!!! Point) “I like Sengun!!!”
 

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it was an incredibly fucking stupid take because Bill wants to continue his “I only vote for winners!!!” thing even if it makes no sense….

The best part of it was Wos, rightly, pointing out that everyone was riding Senguns jock despite Green being better and Bill piping up (again right after his fuck Jalen Green!!! Point) “I like Sengun!!!”
It is also completely arbitrary. He voted Cade Cunningham 3rd for rookie of the year. Why not Herbert Jones there? Because that would be stupid.
 

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I can't roll my eyes hard enough at that "crossing the line". His follow-up is somehow worse: "Look, joking or not, you don’t say “Fuck ____” because you don’t like their game. This isn’t some villain in a Karate Kid movie you’re talking about. Say you don’t think he’s as good as whoever. But “Fuck _____” is too far. Especially for someone with a vote. "
"Matt Young don't gotta cuss in his tweets to sell clickbait.
Well, I do, so fuck him and fuck you too!"
-The Real Sim Shady
 

nattysez

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I like Simmons, warts and all, but the "...we've had" thing is especially odd because I remember him making fun of Hubie Brown for that exact phrasing like a decade ago, and now it's a hallmark of his own language. It doesn't bother me, but it's odd, like he forgot that he mocked someone else for doing it and now it's his thing.
Not even 5 minutes into the latest podcast: "I wonder what's going to happen here with Brady and Lebron from an age standpoint. I think they're going to be really fascinating because of the technology and all the ways you can keep your body way fresher than in any other era we've had."
 
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Auger34

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This series must be tearing Bill apart.

On one hand, the Celtics look fantastic.

On the other hand, Durant has played like shit and it looks like his handpicked roster (and potential juggernaut) is a flop and could self destruct any second…

I’m guessing there will be a lot of explaining away to make Durant look like a blameless victim, all while somehow taking pot shots at LeBron