Jimmy Butler has requested a trade from the Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources tell me and @JonKrawczynski. Butler has given Minnesota a list of one-to-three teams with whom he's open to signing extension, in anticipation of trade.
I’m glad Danny Ainge wouldn’t.My guess on who is the three teams: Celtics, San Antonio and the Lakers.
Would I do Jaylen, Terry, Sacramento and Memphis pick for Jimmy, yes I would.
The Knicks are 100% one of the team's on Butler's list. I don't think San Antonio is on anybody's list.My guess on who is the three teams: Celtics, San Antonio and the Lakers.
Would I do Jaylen, Terry, Sacramento and Memphis pick for Jimmy, yes I would.
The Knicks are the one I could see giving up real assets if they believe it will help them land Kyrie next year.And why would any of those 3 teams want Butler given the position they are in?
As a Boston fan I would like this, with the caveat that they were dumping them on the Nets and taking Brooklyn out of the superteam game. Crabbe/Carrol/Harris/#1 gets you there.Knicks, Nets and Clips are Jimmy's 3 teams. He wants to be in one of the 2 biggest markets.
BTW, for sheer hillarity, nothing would beat MIN using Jimmy to dump Wiggins on the Knicks.
Kanter/Noah/Baker (and picks) works for salary.
Why would Kyrie leave Boston? He can make $48.6 million more with Boston than he can with any other team.Probably because you try to pair him with either Kawhi or Kyrie next season. Those teams will have the space. Though I'm not sold on how much longer Butler will be an elite NBA player given that he is going to be 29 and already has a bad knee.
I agree and I hope he doesn't, but nothing Kyrie does would surprise me. There's smoke about him and Butler teaming up after this season. I don't necessarily believe it but it's out there.Why would Kyrie leave Boston? He can make $48.6 million more with Boston than he can with any other team.
kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Horford is a ridiculous five.Salary-wise, Jaylen and Smart basically gets you there. Talent-wise, too, possibly?
Kyrie, Butler, Tatum, Hayward, Horford would be a ridiculous five.
Indeed. Butler probably projects to be a fair bit better next season (advanced stats love him; by RPM he rated #4 in the league last year) but when you factor in age, injury concerns, and salary, the gap between them narrows considerably, and may even reverse by 2020 or so.kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Horford is a ridiculous five.
Love it. And you know it’s gonna crush all the Swedes and Norwegians in Minnesota to see their Scandinavian brethren killing it for the Bulls.My goal this season is to get the nickname The Finnish Product over on a national level. Feel free to join me in my quest.
It has been shown quite clearly that players are choosing to play where they want to over making the most possible money. Kyrie in NY is definitely in play.Why would Kyrie leave Boston? He can make $48.6 million more with Boston than he can with any other team.
If Kyrie bails on that kind of money and a stacked team set up for present and future for either Brooklyn or NY to play with Jimmy Butler then he's nuts.It has been shown quite clearly that players are choosing to play where they want to over making the most possible money. Kyrie in NY is definitely in play.
He can? Why?Why would Kyrie leave Boston? He can make $48.6 million more with Boston than he can with any other team.
Brian Windhorst has reported it, but the source is Jimmy Butler himself. They touch on it in one line here, but I don't know where to find the initial quote/article.Can someone point me to the source of this alleged "Butler union rumor", or is this guesswork repeated often enough that it became fact?
You should stop worrying about the Knicks. Creating the space for one max signing next summer is doable, two isn't. So unless the T'wolves are agreeing to eat the Knicks bad contracts (Noah, Hardaway, and Lee) in a Butler trade, you should rest easy. If Butler goes to NYC then it's going to be the Butler/'Zingas/Knox Knicks that Boston has to worry about.Brian Windhorst has reported it, but the source is Jimmy Butler himself. They touch on it in one line here, but I don't know where to find the initial quote/article.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/1019364/NBA-news-Jimmy-Butler-trade-Kyrie-Irving-Boston-Celtics-Lakers-New-York-Knicks-Clippers
Butler has previously admitted he would love to play alongside Irving and the two NBA All-Stars have been strongly linked with the New York Knicks."
This is the 2nd team he's demanded a trade from and he had some issues in Chicago too. So it's probably Butler.Given all the rumors about KAT being less then fully happy, and to a much lesser degree (given reliability) the Wiggins tweet above one has to conclude there's something rotten in MN.
I don't think we really know yet whether Butler is the source, or a symptom though. Might this really be a ploy to get the team to commit to Butler as the man (instead of KAT?) To get something else?
I think he's a really good player, and I don't think he's all that overrated. He's clearly not a team centerpiece, and definitely not a primary scorer, but if you have your LeBron, Jimmy Butler's defense and scoring will play really well. If you're the Nets you'd definitely want to take a shot at him because it might help you lure someone better next summer.I hope the Celtics don't trade for him. I think he's incredibly overrated and while better than Jaylen Brown, I'm not sure how much longer he will be.
That player you are describing doesn't sound like a top 10 player and that's where a lot of people have him.I think he's a really good player, and I don't think he's all that overrated. He's clearly not a team centerpiece, and definitely not a primary scorer, but if you have your LeBron, Jimmy Butler's defense and scoring will play really well. If you're the Nets you'd definitely want to take a shot at him because it might help you lure someone better next summer.
Flat earth.If Kyrie bails on that kind of money and a stacked team set up for present and future for either Brooklyn or NY to play with Jimmy Butler then he's nuts.
Except he said he'd only sign with 3 teams. If he would sign with Boston to play with Kyrie, I'm sure they would be on the list.One big reason to move Brown for Butler would be to lock in Kyrie for the next half decade, assuming the rumor of a Butler union is true.
The scoring volume numbers back you up for all those guys, and the scoring efficiency numbers back you up for all of them except Westbrook.I never feel like he is an efficient scorer, or someone that is a reliable offensive presence the way the real top guys (Durant, Curry, Harden, LeBron, Westbrook) are. I know the numbers won't back me up on that, which is why I can't really explain it.
Did he demand a trade from Chicago? I thought that they were committed to a rebuild and moved on from Butler before he became eligible for the Super Max.This is the 2nd team he's demanded a trade from and he had some issues in Chicago too. So it's probably Butler.
I hope the Celtics don't trade for him. I think he's incredibly overrated and while better than Jaylen Brown, I'm not sure how much longer he will be. I think this board sometimes under appreciates Brown because of Jayson Tatum.
Not quite yet. Just turned 29 last week.I just found out Butler is 30?!??! Wtf. Keep your old ass in Minny, Jimmy.