The Game Ball Thread: Week 12 vs the Lions
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I went into the guys he played with his first go-round in NE in my FC column: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/prodigal-chung-returns/ It's a bleak group, but honestly there aren't a lot of McCourtys out there who are true FS and can let the other safety be a pure box guy.Ed Hillel said:
Not "free safety," but a lot of two-deep shells where Chung was playing really a blend of SS and FS. They also played a lot more zone, and Chung seems stronger in man coverage.Stitch01 said:
Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at, I don't think its as much a positional move as a scheme/personnel change given he was bad opposite McCourty his first go round. I think BB is on record as saying the FS/SS designations don't make a lot of sense anyways
He actually didn't play opposite McCourty at safety - McCourty was at corner and only moved to safety after both Chung and Gregory got hurt.Ed Hillel said:
Seriously, you guys should read the Chung article.
Super Nomario said:He actually didn't play opposite McCourty at safety - McCourty was at corner and only moved to safety after both Chung and Gregory got hurt.
Seriously, you guys should read the Chung article.
Oops, I got October and November mixed up. I guess that would be week 8 or 9 he moved, not week 4 or 5. :buddy:
I guess I'll read the article, but only if I have to...
By the numbers for this week: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/patriots-vs-lions-week-12-by-the-numbers/
What jumped out at me:
- After Brady's second straight game without getting sacked (53 dropbacks), his sack rate (3.2%) is just about half the league average (6.0%).
- After holding Detroit's RBs to 60 yards on 21 carries (2.9 YPC), the Pats' run D is basically league average (4.2 YPC vs 4.1, RB carries only).
What jumped out at me:
- After Brady's second straight game without getting sacked (53 dropbacks), his sack rate (3.2%) is just about half the league average (6.0%).
- After holding Detroit's RBs to 60 yards on 21 carries (2.9 YPC), the Pats' run D is basically league average (4.2 YPC vs 4.1, RB carries only).
He was healthy and available to play opposite McCourty in 2012, played badly in a limited role, and got beat out by Gregory and was basically a DNP-CD by playoff time and let go without an offer in the offseason. I dont think the Pats thought he was very good in his old role, although it sounds like some of that might have been a disagreement between player/coach over roles and PT based on some of the comments BB and Chung made about their conversations before reuniting.Super Nomario said:He actually didn't play opposite McCourty at safety - McCourty was at corner and only moved to safety after both Chung and Gregory got hurt.
Seriously, you guys should read the Chung article.
Both BB and Chung deserve a lot of credit for what has happened with this player this year as BB's vision for the defense last offseason is really taking shape and Chung has been a really useful piece playing to his strengths at low cost. I certainly didn't think he'd make the team or be very good in any role.
I'll pile on ... the top mind-blowing play of the game. Maybe the bad snap provided an adreneline rush.Phragle said:
Wow, how bad was that kick return? Guy had 15 yards between him and the nearest gunner when he caught it.
No fine for Raiola fits well with the incredibly poor officiating in that game.
Game ball to the coaches for having coached these players to the point where they don't lose their composure when they are on the wrong side of call after call and no-call after no-call. (Not that there weren't some going the other way.)
I'm not tilting at conspiracy windmills but damn their were a lot of head scratchers yesterday. That the Pats still won by 26 points is a testimony to coaches and players alike.
PS: As to the punt, it WAS a beauty, but phenweigh is on to something with his comment about adrenaline. Booming punts OFTEN follow bad snaps or near blocks. Not that I want Ryan to have that challenge but I wasn't entirely surprised to see him react that way to the bounced snap.
Last: Not a game ball but a nod to the crowd. I was on hand yesterday and in the early phases, when the game was still in reach, it seemed louder than usual when the Lions had the ball, especially on third downs.
Game ball to the coaches for having coached these players to the point where they don't lose their composure when they are on the wrong side of call after call and no-call after no-call. (Not that there weren't some going the other way.)
I'm not tilting at conspiracy windmills but damn their were a lot of head scratchers yesterday. That the Pats still won by 26 points is a testimony to coaches and players alike.
PS: As to the punt, it WAS a beauty, but phenweigh is on to something with his comment about adrenaline. Booming punts OFTEN follow bad snaps or near blocks. Not that I want Ryan to have that challenge but I wasn't entirely surprised to see him react that way to the bounced snap.
Last: Not a game ball but a nod to the crowd. I was on hand yesterday and in the early phases, when the game was still in reach, it seemed louder than usual when the Lions had the ball, especially on third downs.
Corrente did the week 1 game against Miami as well, right? The crew was equally as inept then, and many went against the Pats there. I don't think he's biased, I think he just sucks, and I'd prefer to not see him again this year, particularly in the playoffs.
bsartist618 said:
One of the worst punt returns, I have ever seen. He ran straight towards the sidelines. If he had run straight ahead he could have picked up 7 to 10 easily.
No, he did the Vikings game, though. LINK: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/officials/CorrTo0r.htmEd Hillel said:
Seems like at least the 2-3 (4th?) time this season he has hit a bomb that changed field position significantly at a really important time. Good call to drop Zoltan.Valek123 said:
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