Old Fart Tree said:I was at a breakfast with Steve Baker, NFL agent this morning. I asked him who was the best, most shrewd front office in the NFL, and he waxed on about Philly and San Francisco for a few minutes before saying "Oh, and obviously, the best by far is Belichick, no matter what you think of his integrity."
Afterwards, I asked him what he thought about Brady's recent contract restructure. "I think Bob Kraft has a secret deal worked out with Tom Brady to get paid less now, and he'll pay him more after his career ends. It's blatant circumvention of the salary cap, and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it." I then asked him why teams like SF and Denver had blatantly cheated by circumventing the cap, and yet no one talks about them, they only talk about the "Cheatriots" and he said "Well they ARE the Cheatriots! How do those balls get deflated?" Having lost some confidence in him, I said "The Ideal Gas Law? PV=nRT, right?" And he waved his hands and said "Look, everyone's cheating, just the Patriots do it better than anyone else, but they are cheating."
I didn't leave him with my current Patriots fan motto, which is "Fuck Everyone But Us" sung to the tune of the Chariots of Fire melody.
amarshal2 said:
One time in a group of friends during grad school I made a casual remark about how everyone had cheated on a school assignment at some point in the 16+ years we had all spent in school. To my surprise, more than one of the people in the group said that they had NEVER cheated on anything, ever. No copied homeworks. No looking over at one question on someone else's filled out scantron sheet. Nothing. Not once.
Sometimes when you've convinced yourself that "everyone is doing X" you find out that you're wrong.
amarshal2 said:
One time in a group of friends during grad school I made a casual remark about how everyone had cheated on a school assignment at some point in the 16+ years we had all spent in school. To my surprise, more than one of the people in the group said that they had NEVER cheated on anything, ever. No copied homeworks. No looking over at one question on someone else's filled out scantron sheet. Nothing. Not once.
Sometimes when you've convinced yourself that "everyone is doing X" you find out that you're wrong.
That's my impression. Anyone who says they never cheated during school, in some fashion, is full of shit.TomRicardo said:
So more than one of your friends were liars
DrewDawg said:Perhaps.
Still feels stupid to voice that in front of reprobates like Old Fart Tree.
TomRicardo said:
So more than one of your friends were liars
BornToRun said:That's my impression. Anyone who says they never cheated during school, in some fashion, is full of shit.
deanx0 said:
Or sometimes, people aren't honest with themselves...
DrewDawg said:Doesn't seem that bright for an agent to call a team that he may have to negotiate with cheaters or possibly alienate players on that team that may one day be looking for representation.
BornToRun said:That's my impression. Anyone who says they never cheated during school, in some fashion, is full of shit.
Not even helping a friend during a test? I did that once and got away with it because the teacher was half blind. The fact that I still remember it 100 years later makes me think I'm not proud of it. Guess she was too vain to get glasses.There is no Rev said:
I never cheated on a school assignment. In any fashion. Not once.
Resilient Tom Brady Critics Already Looking Ahead To Next Season
WASHINGTON—After the veteran New England Patriots quarterback secured his record-tying fourth Super Bowl championship and third Super Bowl MVP, scores of Tom Brady’s harshest critics across the nation announced Friday that they are already eagerly looking ahead to next season. “It was a disappointing end to the year, but it’s over now, so it’s time to start laying down next season’s groundwork for why Brady ultimately doesn’t belong in the conversation of the all-time best NFL quarterbacks,” said Pennington, NJ resident Isaac Reynolds, who, along with millions of other tireless Brady detractors, has already turned his attention toward the coming six months of building arguments as to why the Spygate and Deflategate controversies tarnish all of the 37-year-old’s accomplishments.
It's a shame Len Lesser is no longer with us.GlenMorangie said:I wouldn't open that without at least letting a dog take a sniff first.
People like to rationalize their cheating by convincing themselves that everyone else is cheating as well.amarshal2 said:
One time in a group of friends during grad school I made a casual remark about how everyone had cheated on a school assignment at some point in the 16+ years we had all spent in school. To my surprise, more than one of the people in the group said that they had NEVER cheated on anything, ever. No copied homeworks. No looking over at one question on someone else's filled out scantron sheet. Nothing. Not once.
Sometimes when you've convinced yourself that "everyone is doing X" you find out that you're wrong.
#equalplayingfield is the worst. I really don't care that he used stick'em but the attitude is insufferable.Ed Hillel said:
Tom Brady really had Carroll's back during this very difficult time...E5 Yaz said:PeteCarroll Pete Carroll
Thank you #12s for your faithful support and passion! We love you and can't wait to be together again at CenturyLink this fall.
People also like to rationalize their (often extremely minor) infractions by basically 'misremembering' them as not happening. People talk themselves into and out of all sorts of stuff.pappymojo said:People like to rationalize their cheating by convincing themselves that everyone else is cheating as well.
Rice should keep his mouth shut, he of the domestic violence charge (wife) back when, which was dropped, I guess. Google doesn't come up with anything on it, but the allegation happened, while he was playing, as I recall. Maybe he's innocent, but where there's smoke, there's often fire. There were even TV shots of his wife back then. Why would she submit to filming for TV if nothing happened? Then, Rice comes out last year and says a 49er ought to be benched for the same thing.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:Jerry Rice, who called the Pats cheaters over Deflategate, admits to having used Stickum on his gloves, which was illegal.
I'm sure the nation's outrage will be suitably recorded. Unleash the asterisks!
NortheasternPJ said:What's next? Is the GREAT Bill Walsh going to come out and admit that they shut off communication devices when they had the first 15 plays of the game scripted in two playoff games against the Giants, who then had to turn off their radios?
Not to nitpick, but I think #Cheatyniners has a better ring to it.NortheasternPJ said:What's next? Is the GREAT Bill Walsh going to come out and admit that they shut off communication devices when they had the first 15 plays of the game scripted in two playoff games against the Giants, who then had to turn off their radios?
#equalplayingfield
#49erscheaters
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=bostonnew-england-patriots&id=4778014&city=boston&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FPVgm4wrhcK%22%7DC'mon Jerry, you're better than that.
Like others, such as former Dallas and San Francisco defensive end Charles Haley, you're entitled to your opinion. But here's a suggestion: Take a deep inventory of your own career and how closely you followed the rules before firing away at others.
Otherwise, you might soon be referred to as Jerry Rice*.
NortheasternPJ said:What's next? Is the GREAT Bill Walsh going to come out and admit that they shut off communication devices when they had the first 15 plays of the game scripted in two playoff games against the Giants, who then had to turn off their radios?
#equalplayingfield
#49erscheaters
Me too.E5 Yaz said:
I'd pay to see that
Monbo Jumbo said:Me too.
It would be amazing since Walsh is dead.
I think Reiss is not long for the sports media. Between attacking guys like Rice, and his obvious and public frustration with ESPN ---amarshal2 said:
He is definitely in his right to bash Jerry Rice who admitted to cheating as well. Don't see the problem there. if anyone is a hypocrite it's Jerry Rice.crystalline said:I think Reiss is not long for the sports media. Between attacking guys like Rice, and his obvious and public frustration with ESPN ---
http://www.mikereiss.net/media-coverage-on-underinflated-footballs/
--- I wouldn't be surprised if he gets hired by NFL films, or the Pats, or Grantland in the next year or so.
Old Fart Tree said:I love rice, but he is appropriately eating some crow and he should STFU.
Let me know if you need contributions, matches, etc...Ed Hillel said:On it.
There is no Rev said:
It's becoming fascinating to watch everyone who tries to jump in on this scandal to take their whack at the Patriots end up with shit all over them. It's actually getting to the point that the phenomenon itself is evidence that the whole scandal was bullshit, so any malicious energy anyone puts in towards it gets reversed back on them like some sort of cursed artifact in a scifi or fantasy movie.
Basically, deflategate has turned into the most karmically active thing I have ever seen. It belongs in a museum.
There is no Rev said:Basically, deflategate has turned into the most karmically active thing I have ever seen. It belongs in a museum.
Someone did slash his tires a week and a half ago here in Indy. He attributed it to Pats fans, which made me chuckle. If you're Greg Doyel, how the fuck do you figure out which one of the millions of people who hate your guts decided to slash your tires, and for what reason?Old Fart Tree said:Great. When does Gregg Doyel die in a fiery manure explosion?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/seahawks-12th-man-license-expires-next-year/Via KING-5 News in Seattle, the team’s license to use the 12th Man slogan expires soon.
The term was first used by Texas A&M, years ago. In 1990, the school obtained federal trademark protection for the 12th Man phrase.
Litigation against the Seahawks resulted in a settlement that acknowledged Texas A&M’s rights to the label, and that licensed the Seahawks to make limited use of the term for payment of only $5,000 per year.
The deal, struck in 2006 and renewed in 2011, runs out in 2016.
Jeez so their 12th man is becoming a free agent after next year?!E5 Yaz said: